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Would they defend pedophilia to my face?

So? Because he’s that size he shouldn’t get called on defending pedophilia? This is the USA. We don’t support certain things and we shouldn’t stay quiet because an individual is big.

This is a forum where people choose to come and post ideas, thoughts, beliefs. They are out there to be analyzed, criticized, agreed with, etc. If someone defends pedophilia, then they shouldn’t cry when someone tells them it’s a sick thing to do.

Let me ask you this: if someone defended pedophilia, would you think that should disqualify them from getting a job involving kids? Would you care what religion they followed? Would you give them a pass if they were 6’9”?

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I don’t see how that makes the person right.

Here’s the thing, he might be prepared, and able, to kick my ass. That’s my problem. His problem is that I would be prepared and willing to kill him. But are these reasons why we should keep quiet and allow beliefs to take over our nation that are antithetical to what it was founded on? Look at your own town and how not defending what you (as a community) once stood for has gotten you? If we don’t push back now, what’s next? Grooming gangs like in the UK?

Go ask some veterans about what they saw done to young boys over in the Middle East. And they were ordered to not do anything about it. Well, this ain’t the ME, yet.

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You’re prepared to kill the guy who I stood in line behind yesterday after calling him a pedophile?

GTFO. No you’re not. You would not call that man any names at all.

I’ve been pushing back on my local politicians for years without suggesting that they want to diddle kids or are okay with it. They all know me by name and most don’t like me at all. I’ve even been called “vile” by my local government, which I’m particularly proud of.

I was particularly unsympathetic to our new six figure DEI coordinator when I wrote an op-ed pointing out that Maine Democrats cite Maine’s Klan history as evidence that DEI is needed in Maine government. There is only one actual policy the Klan had any success with in the 1920’s, which was stripping Catholic schools of their public funding. It didn’t happen, but a governor campaigned and won on that specific issue and the support of the Maine Klan.

DEI failed to stop Klan policy from being implemented in Maine when Maine Democrats recently passed the EXACT same policy to strip public funding from Catholic schools, now on the basis of not teaching gender identity nonsense as fact.

Many Muslims did not like that piece at all and perceived it as a racist attack on the young woman of African heritage who got that job and edited my town’s site with misleading history. Many likely added my opinion to their pile of reasons why DEI is needed.

I’ve never blamed Muslims from distant lands for taking white liberals and the fools who elect them up on their offer of free stuff and a better life in exchange for votes. Who wouldn’t take someone up on that kind of giveaway if you’re living in a war zone or refugee camp?

White liberals are the ones who enabled the social engineering and called everyone racist who objected to flooding the state with tax dependents who don’t share the culture, language or religion of the people who lived here. None of my Muslim neighbors have ever concocted a scheme like that, even if many participate in it.

Democrats knew exactly what they were doing the entire time and I believe @squating_bear is correct that even his demographic is coming to understand how cynically they have been manipulated and the incompatibility of Democrat policies with any of the big 3 monotheistic faiths.

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I hope this has nothing to do with the guy’s height. We ought not be calling the guy names, even if he’s 4’9” or wheelchair-bound.

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I’m prepared to do what I have to to survive, as are you I assume…

Here’s the thing, I didn’t call squatting bear a pedophile. I said he was defending it, making excuses for it.

Why would I randomly call anyone a name, regardless of their size? I wouldn’t say anything to anyone if I knew violence would result regardless of if I could win or not. What’s the point of that?

Is the acid test for what’s right and wrong, for what can or can’t be said, the ability to physically overcome someone else?

If some big dude is defending pedophilia and I speak up and say I have a problem with that and he attacks me, who exactly has the real problem? Who doesn’t belong in our society?

I don’t see your point. This is an Internet forum where we choose to expose ourselves to opinions and ideas we don’t like and provide our own which may get criticized and challenged.

If I met squatting bear, I wouldn’t call him a pedophile because I don’t believe he is. I never said he was. I said his position on the subject was a defense of pedophilia. And I’m not the only one who believes that. It doesn’t matter if his position is influenced by his religion; religion doesn’t escape criticism and it’s not a get out of jail free card.

I believe in freedom of religion up to the point where the practice of it breaks our laws. I also believe that if a religion is pushing out beliefs and ideas that are harmful to our society and go against the principles our nation was founded on, we have the right to speak up, even if the person is seven feet tall.

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The acid test for me is when I see people posting words that they would never, ever dare to say to a person in-person. You sound like my fundamentalist cousins who will put people on the spot for faith examinations, demanding to know thoughts on Bible verses, etc.

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My position on the subject is not a defense of pedophilia. What is it about my position that makes you think it is?

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I think very very few Democrats knew exactly what they were doing the entire time, but there is a natural human tendency to go along so that the result is the same or even worse

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So if someone is right, and they don’t say anything out of fear of some sort, they are in reality, wrong?

People have stood up and said what they believe to be true, in the face of danger, and have paid the ultimate price for it. Does their martyrdom make them by default right?

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We’ve been over that ad nauseum. You won’t change your beliefs, at least not because of my beliefs, and that’s your right.

I believe Muhammad engaged in pedophilia as well as other unsavory practices such as slavery and murder. You interpret the facts differently. There is no point in discussing it.

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I don’t think many Democrat voters have any idea at all about what their policies actually are. It is all about the feels and the vibe.

Democrat leadership has known about their strategy of voter importation for decades. Attacking the character of anyone who objects has been the strategy since the idea was hatched.

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On the biggest things in a black and white sense, most definitely not

But my beliefs are flexible and modifiable, easily, on all kinds of small stuff

I want you to remember your typing this to me.

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What a fun exchange!

The idea that of lots of educated, trained, armed Christians in the US is would be great, is great.

In reality, that could just mean a bunch of Zecarlos running around!

It would be like a Twilight Zone episode.

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One thing we wouldn’t do is behead people or rape children. That’s more than one.

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Do you want me to remember your defense of pedophilia?

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Your continuous use of Matthew 7:1-2 to caution Christians is poor application of the verse. The surrounding verses and 1 and 2 are how our fellow humans will react to our actions. Jesus is making reference the second greatest commandment.

Matthew 22:36, "Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

See how this is referenced a little further into Matthew chapter 7.

Matthew 7:12, “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.”

How does Jesus judge sin?

Matthew 5:27, “Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”

Doesn’t this indicate that God judges that everyone who thinks that you support a pedophile has already judged you in his heart.

What I am trying to get across is that the Church is required to judge others. Another example:

Ephesians 5:11, “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”

This is impossible to do without judging others.

I present to you that this thread shows the application of Matthew 7:1 and 2. This is exactly what is going one. One person judges another, and then that person returns like judgment.

How would the judgment of God work for judging Christians at the Judgment Seat of Christ? I can see it. “You judged Squatting_Bear of being ignorant. My dear son, you are ignorant.” Me being ignorant in the eyes of God is coming anyway, whether I ever knew Squatting_Bear.

Matthew 7:2 being the action of God as like “measure,” pragmatically makes no sense.

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That’s not the same as in God’s Speech

You wouldn’t want to hear yourself described in a negative way by the One who’s Words you value most

You are still avoiding condemnation
Have you noticed that you aren’t addressing condemnation?

God consciousness, being God fearing, Taqwa make sense. Judging God doesn’t. If no human returns the favor in a few instances, then what then?
You can call my answer pragmatically nonsensical, but can you produce a better answer?

To the extent to which it is literally inescapable, or more?
If more, how much more, and why?

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I am saying that the condemnation from Matt 7:2 does not come from God.

Let me add: I didn’t blame you for not knowing the context in 1 Corinthians 5:12 and 6:2, but I strongly hold you accountable for the context around Matthew 7:1-2.

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So then are you saying I will eventually get to a point where I am literally incapable of not returning fire?
Or am I missing something?

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Read past verse 2, noticing the “And” as what follows is related to verses 1 and 2:

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye