Coronavirus - What Happened?

What did I just watch

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I agree with what Cyrrex has said. From everything that I’ve read, scientists seem baffled by why so few children seem to be getting infected by this…and when they do get infected, why so few have severe disease. Children seem quite safe from this. I have a 9 and a 11 year old and I’m not that worried about this for them. With that being said, I’m still trying my best to keep them and myself from acquiring this.

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Are people also hoarding toilet paper in the US?

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I’ve heard anecdotal reports of tp being in short supply in some stores. I, however, ALWAYS make sure I have at least a month’s supply of TP just in case some crazy shit like this happens

So I’m good. That and about 1000 rounds on hand at all times…you know, to protect toiletries and such

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This does sound like fear mongering:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/coronavirus-could-infect-35-to-70-per-cent-of-canadians-experts-say/ar-BB10Z837?ocid=spartanntp

However, here is the big problem:

"Hospitals are already running beyond capacity. ā€œYou’re working at 120 per cent capacity and now you have this on top of your normal work,ā€

We can’t even try to contain this. They are going to have people on mats in the hospital parking lot because the hallways are already crowded.

Looks like my 20’s were pretty much a complete waste…

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Are there people who really believe that drinking bleach is okay? I refuse to believe that the human race is that stupid.

Pretty sure drinking bleach will cure what ails ya, if life is what ails ya

The human race as a whole? nah, we ain’t THAT dumb. Individual humans. Yea I believe it. I mean, the Tide Pod challenge is in recent memory, so…

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Had to google what a tide pod is. I can’t even imagine why they would do that.

Now that you mention it, some people still believe the earth is flat…

Yeah. There was even a big thing a little while back about it ā€œcuringā€ autism amongst other things.

I feel as if this graph justifies not necessarily hysteria, but the precautionary measures implemented by some countries,

There’s so many people that utilise a hospital for other ailments, that it’s not affordable from any perspective to have them overrun completely with any illness. And, there are other systems that might fail as well, by the same token as illustrated by the graph. Food-supply, for instance. Imagine if all food transport was to seize. How quickly does a city of 200k individuals run out of food? And then imagine that for a mega-capital.

Edit: a stray thought. If decision makers all over the world had taken the cautionary warnings of the more concerned epidemiologists of the world to heart they would have been on the receiving end of a lot of malcontent even though they would have in effect saved a lot of people. I wonder to what extent the way in which ongoing events are playing out are influenced by the public perception is of how the swine flu was handled.

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One could give heroin a shot.

One time I was coming down with the flu and heroin cured me instantly. Well maybe not cured, but it did flush the flu symptoms away.

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It really just masks them. There’s a lot of overlap.

I definitely think the public health measures in place are trying to blunt the curve as your diagram suggests. Heart attacks, cancer and accidents don’t take a break just because COVID19 decided to show up. What I am interested in is why the fatality rate in Italy is hovering around 5% while that in South Korea is at only 0.8%. Is it demographics, the health care system, genetics?

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Actually, I just read an interview with Dr. Nino Cartabellotto who is a public health expert advising the Italian government and he says the fatality rate is so high because they are only swab testing people who at showing symptoms. He estimates that there are probably 15000 asymptomatic cases that are not being picked up and included in the calculations. Although he also specifically says that the fatality rate in Lombardia is high because the health care system is so overstretched that critically ill people are not getting the care they need. Also, it says in the interview that the epidemic in Italy started and spread through the hospital system which would lead you to believe that a much higher percentage of patients would be of the vulnerable population of those already hospitalized. Obviously this would lead to a higher fatality rate than if the epidemic was diluted through the healthier general population.

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That makes it like ridiculously bad. Like worst possible case bad actually happened.

Damn.

Ya that’s horrible. The positive stuff that I took though from his interview was that he seemed pretty confident that the mass quarantine measures would work as they have in China and seemingly in South Korea.

I should add that the average age in Italy is higher than other countries (italians are an old population by average), so if we factor that in, statistically there’s a higher chance a person getting infected is also on the older side, hence the higher percentage of deaths.

I haven’t looked at the data, but I suspect that if we factored in age categories, we’d get a number that would put us closer to other countries.

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we seem to be getting older by the year too, on average

Also, +1 on what @CMdad said on the healthcare system not having the capacity to handle a situation like this.

There have been lots of political debates over the last few years, because the government has cut on a lot of funds that were intended to be spent on maintaining and improving the healthcare system. We are definitely paying for that.

Italy is also known for its moderately high level of corruption among politicians, so there is reason to believe that even more of those funds got in the wrong hands instead of being directed to the healthcare system.

Not to tempt fate, but apparently kids are fairly robust, and the infection rate for them is currently quite low. The elderly and those with things like diabetes and weak lungs seem to be who is getting the worst of it at present.

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Also, I am glad they’ve cancelled the 6-nations, but goddamn, the sporting highlight of my year getting shafted is a bitter pill to swallow.

The Italians have avoided getting the wooden spoon for a few months though.