Coronavirus - What Happened?

Change this to a protective measure during a worldwide pandemic and you’re spot on.

Well also myself. But it’s not pretending. I slow down in a school zone and don’t drive 110 in town to protect myself and others.

Not at all. But do you think it would have been worse? I mean clearly we were a nation that comparatively tended to do much less in terms of prevention once it had spread worldwide. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that our numbers reflected that. I mean we had a President who defied top scientists and had a Vice President not wear a mask in the Mayo Clinic least the top two look like pussies or something.

All over the damn place.

But the basic premise from atleast a few posters, if you don’t wear a mask, you’re a shitty Christian and a hypocrite. Then we got derailed.

I’m assuming you did that last year too, and the year before that.
Did you wear a mask in public last flu season? How about in 09 swine flu spread? Why the sudden change is morals?

Trying to say H is inconsistent here falls completely flat. It is not a workable argument, because corona =/= the flu. It is appropriate to act differently according to the level of risk.

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Not exactly. There are two issues: the effectiveness of masks and whether or not doing something to protect others, in this case wearing a mask, is an inconvenience that Christians should accept.

So, if masks are effective, should Christians even need to be ordered to wear them or should they do whatever they want? Part of being a Christian is not being able to do whatever you want.

Are masks effective? I don’t know if I’ll take the word of scientific geniuses who post on a bodybuilding forum. They may or may not be effective but I’ll err on the side of caution because it’s the Christian thing to do. If I do risk not wearing one (and I do in some circumstances), it’s when I’m among others who are also willingly taking that risk.

It’s not a Christian issue, either way. The refusal to wear one is a secular one (liberty as paramount concern).

Anyways.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/07/1-in-3-covid-survivors-suffer-neurological-or-mental-disorders-study.html

Getting my 2nd jab at the end of the month, thank God.

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So you don’t care about those who died in previous years? Obviously being sarcastic but you’ve brought it full circle. Risk assessment is an individual choice.

In many cases, I’ll agree with you, but in this case (mask wearing) one’s individual choice has repercussions for others. Choosing not to wear a mask doesn’t just put you at a higher risk, it puts others at higher risk. You are making risk assessments / decisions for others.

With stuff like the flu we act differently because the risk you are exposing others to is on average far less than with corona.

The seasonal flu kills anywhere from 40 to 80 thousand Americans a year. Where’s the body count line? 79999 dead no mask. 80000 dead mask?

I was never taught that Christians had the option to turn their faith on and off.

This defies reality. You can’t smoke wherever you want. You have to wear a seatbelt.

I think this is putting words in my mouth. I said it doesn’t align with what I was taught are values of Christ.

So when we combine: Insanely easy thing to do during a pandemic with loving thy neighbor I’m not sure I see the argument against it.

I don’t know how we have so many people on a strength forum who can read about squatting and training balls to the wall but the idea of putting a mask on terrifies them.

Sure, 7,500 died last year from it, so masks seem to have helped reduce deaths from it. 500,000 died from the Rona last year. How many would that be if we treated it like the flu (business as usual)?

By those numbers, the corona is 66X as dangerous for risk of death (and a significant amount higher for serious complications). IMO, if the flu was that dangerous, then perhaps I would wear a mask every flu season.

Bingo. It makes sense to behave differently based on risk. If I was at a job with a risk of head injury like construction we might have a rule or guideline where we all wore helmets. I’m not sure it makes sense to say “well if you’re so pro helmet why don’t you wear one fishing.”

Not taking preventative measures when risk is low is logical. Not taking them when risk is higher (and you create a higher risk for your neighbors with your action) is just stupid.

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No idea what you mean.

Perhaps?

Not 100% related to what you quoted. You can choose to smoke, yes? The where involves personal property rights.

You do?

That’s it, you’ve nailed it!

And I would be okay with you making that personal choice.

Who gets to decide the body count for masking up? What number should they decide on?

I suppose the same people (the government) who say we don’t get to make the personal choice of drinking and driving. FWIW, if I thought drinking and driving didn’t put others at risk, I would be opposed to forbidding it. If I thought one was only protected by wearing a mask (that it didn’t protect others as well), I would be against a mask mandate.

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