If you believe Sandy Hook was fake and that Obama created Superstorm Sandy to beat Romney you will believe absolutely anything.
Although I think Alex Jones is largely a character who found quite the industry. Profiting off ignorant people isn’t anything new.
I will state that, as a masonry contractor, who had worked in it since the age of 5 (Dad was one too), I frequently had long rows of bricks in the open at job sites, sometimes well in advance depending on the delivery schedule. t’s not like you can chain them up. And rocks are typicically delivered wrapped in wire, that’s how they keep them on the pallet. It’s not an uncommon site, I don’t know what the hell is wrong with people.
I think its just entirely unremarkable and no one would ever make a mental note.
Until everybody started picking them up and throwing them.
I really think it started out as a troll job to mess with people for a moment, but it took off like a wildfire and now people are actually believing the theories.
Seeing how much attention it’s getting now, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people looking to cause shit heard about it and thought hey, that’s a great idea, order a couple pallets of bricks for tonight. Like when the news kept talking about people hoarding toilet paper, next thing you know almost everyone started doing it.
On the topic of the virus and surrounding issues, @H_factor and me were arguing about ending the shutdown measures. Just to give you some perspective on this situation and show you that it’s not just me and a few other grumpy people complaining, see this about Ottawa’s (liberal) mayor calling for the province to loosen up restrictions some more over here:
The thing here is that there are hardly any COVID infections in Ottawa anymore, last I heard it was just over 100 total and many other cities and towns have few or none. Only the Toronto area has a significant number of infections.
To further complicate the situation, pretty much everything in Quebec is open now and Ottawa is right across the river. You can’t get a haircut or do many other things over here, but drive over the bridge and it’s no problem. Where’s the logic with that? It’s like how until the other day you would get a $880 ticket for sitting on a park bench, but you can take the bus or train and sit down.
First ballot hall of fame episode. Alex Jones offers to send Eddie Bravo to the Antarctic. Then Alex opines on how retarded he is.
Or as my grandma used to call them “Irish Confetti”. 
I don’t know how much a pallet of bricks cost, so I don’t know how much money someone might waste, but I do know that I wouldn’t waste it.
You never know though. Someone else might. 
Not that I agree with everything but,…
The 93-pages report titled “Analysis of the Crisis Management” was drafted by a scientific panel appointed by the Interior Ministry and composed by external medical experts from several German universities. I am not from Germany so, cannot speak to the legitimacy of this group but, it is not like some guy in his basement just wrote some random blog post.
WRT New York and keep in mind NY is an outlier, the report states “The people who die from Corona are essentially those who would statistically die this year” Average age of death in USA (Life expectancy) is lower than the deaths by Covid. In New York half (more?) of the deaths were 75+ yrs , more than 90% were above 45 yrs old and the majority had underlying illnesses.
Just to be clear I’m not saying shutdown measures shouldn’t end or that it’s just “grumpy” people complaining. I was saying we don’t have anything close to a consensus on these things. You can find medical experts from the beginning who disagreed with what to do and they still do. I’ve always supported erring on the side of caution initially (still do) and letting locations make decisions based on what is happening around them. I’m for ending shutdowns, but what shutdown means isn’t the same everywhere at all. And I don’t think it ever made sense to shutdown and then open the gates all at once. What most states are doing in phases seems prudent to me although we could quibble with aspects of the details.
That and letting people know that Bill Gates isn’t the reason Ottawa Canada is shutdown.
550 modular bricks to a pallet. Most bricks are 30-60 cents a piece. So $160-$330 plus tax and delivery. Give or take. Queens or other odd sizes are more money and less per pallet.
"Nationwide, more than 85,900 more people have died than usual between March 15 and May 9. That number is more than 18,000 higher than the official count of coronavirus deaths for that period. Higher-than-normal death rates are now widespread across the country; of the states with reliable data, only eight show numbers that look similar to recent years.
Our analysis examines deaths from all causes, beginning in mid-March when the virus took hold in the country, and examines every state with reliable data. The death count so far is not uniform around the nation. Some places have seen staggering death tolls, while others have seen smaller aberrations from historic patterns. In some states, the number of deaths so far looks roughly in line with those in a typical year, suggesting that the virus and its effects throughout medicine and society have not yet had a major impact on survival.
New York City, long the epicenter of the U.S. outbreak, has experienced the most extreme increase in deaths, which have now surged to seven times the usual number."
I’ve posted this before - not only are deaths far higher than usual almost everywhere nationwide, but the amount of excess deaths almost always far exceeds the count of coronavirus deaths, suggesting a high likelihood of underreported deaths.
Outlier or not, 25 thousand extra people were not going to just drop dead this year in New York. People with underlying illnesses can live for decades.
Thanks.
That’s too rich for my blood, but I’m not a hard core subversive. And there is no way I could throw that many bricks either. Especially if you bust them in half first to get that sweet loft on them.
I agree with most of what you are saying, and like you say here:
That’s not exactly what I was calling for either. Changing things that needed changing is what I advocate, fixing inadequate measures (nursing homes for the last time!) and getting rid of unnecessary restrictions that won’t help anything and make no sense (like you can’t sit on a park bench but you can sit on the bus or train).
And as you see, that is not the case in Ontario. If anything, they should restrict travel in and out of Toronto and loosen things up in the rest of the province.
Everyone knows the lizard people hold more sway around here than Gates. But remember that it was the day after the WHO declared a pandemic and recommended various things that a pandemic and state of emergency was declared over here. The WHO didn’t force anyone, but they are the global health authority and many governments do as the WHO says, right or wrong.
You’re looking at it the wrong way, it’s an investment. Get a whole crowd of people throwing bricks and smashing up stores and think of how much stuff you can steal in the midst of the chaos.
I have spent several hours trying to find a monthly mortality count for the US.
Every road points to the CDC as the keeper of the info. But their latest info is 1.5 years old, iirc.
The reason I was looking was to see the type of number quoted in your article.
If you or any party here could direct me to a data set link that is more timely (like the NYT seems to have) and not restricted to Covid deaths only, I would be appreciative.
Does the article not touch on this? With all the focus on covid many of those in need were ignored causing more deaths.
"Strategic Culture report: The report focuses on the “ manifold and heavy consequences of the Corona measures ” and warns that these are “ grave ”.
More people are dying because of state-imposed Corona-measures than they are being killed by the virus."
Those 25,000 people may have not died but, the article does not say they would it states “those who would statistically die this year”. If you are 85 yrs old you may live another 20 yrs but, statistically (giving average life expectancy ) this year is it.
Why do you wear a seat belt? Because statistically you have a better chance of survival. It does not mean you will survive, hell the seat belt may be your cause of death.
** It is just a nicer way of saying it kills the sick and old.
I don’t think you have the faintest clue how statistics work, if you think that being in a high-risk category means that deaths would have been what they are this year, regardless of the existence of this virus.
Well most things are more likely to kill the sick and old because they are…sick and old. But the virus doesn’t only kill the sick and old people, that’s just who it kills the most. Which of course makes sense. But this idea that it’s only the elderly that perish simply isn’t true. I haven’t looked in a while and states vary of course, but I think I remember early May an article stating half of Covid deaths were under age 80 and like 20% were before retirement I want to say. I’m headed to bed and not searching it right now.
And that’s ignoring the evidence and knowledge of blood clotting and severe respiratory issues we have seen from people that don’t die. It’s possible that for some having Covid may very well put them at increased risk for other significant issues throughout their life.
This dismissal by many that the people dying were all bound to perish this year or quite soon simply isn’t true. We shouldn’t confuse most likely to die from Covid with the only people who will die from Covid.
This is old but seems to put it in nice picture form for NYC for a short time frame.
This debate really forms the crux of the issue with the pandemic ie. how truly lethal is the coronavirus? The answer to this question is what should drive all policy decisions if we really want to make “evidence based” decisions. All Infection Fatality Rate estimates that I have seen are 1-2 orders of magnitude below the current Case Fatality Rates. Just like there are most likely numerous fatalities due to Covid 19 that have not been recorded as such, it is universally accepted that there are many times more cases than have been diagnosed as well. To take the NYC example, from the NYT article posted, it seems that we are talking about an additional 4200 or so deaths that are above the counted Covid fatalities to date (ie. 20900 excess deaths and 16673 known Covid deaths). It can safely be assumed that a large number of these deaths can probably be attributed to the lockdown measures and other disruptions to daily life that the coronavirus has caused eg. increased suicides due to job loss and depression, delaying seeking treatment for serious medical events due to fear of contracting covid, delayed treatment for already diagnosed conditions such as cancer and CVD due to hospitals postponing planned treatments to accommodate the covid surge, increased murders and deadly domestic assaults due to being confined, etc. The early serological testing results for NYC that I’ve seen estimate that about 2.2 million New Yorkers have been infected with Covid. Even if all of the 20900 excess deaths in NYC are attributed directly to covid, this still only works out to 0.95% IFR. An additional 20900 deaths sounds like a ridiculously high number but
when it’s against a backdrop of a city of 8.8 million, it isn’t so startling. And this also should be read in the context that the situation in NYC was just about as bad as it got anywhere in the world where the local health care system was completely overwhelmed and the fatality rate was much higher than it could have been if this wasn’t the case ie. many people died who otherwise wouldn’t have if they could have accessed timely and appropriate treatment. Covid 19 can definitely be lethal but, for the vast majority of people it is not. Is it more lethal than the flu? Most likely…but nowhere near as much as many have stated. The numbers just don’t bear it out.