Coronavirus - What Happened?

Not only that, but we have no idea about the long term pulmonary, cardiac and neurological damage in recovered patients.

My friend the Crossfit cultist still has to take a break when climbing more that one flight of stairs almost four weeks after having tested negative and declared “cured”.

A CT scan showed that his lungs are damaged, and scuba diving, his favorite hobby is now out of the question.

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This is simply not true. The US already has 62,000 confirmed deaths in 8 weeks which is equal to the entire worst year of flu in recent memory, inside 2 months. Taking the entire state of New York away, which is completely unrealistic, would still leave us with over 40,000 dead.

If you haven’t noticed, we are well out of flu season, and were well on the way out when the virus started the bulk of its US spread. There is no ascertainable seasonality to the virus either (yet, we may discover something) so summer isn’t saving us.

Which is awful. But it also illustrates an important point, which is that a) we don’t know why certain people are seeing things like this happen and others aren’t, and b) even in “cured” people it is causing damage the flu is not known for, in systems the flu is not known to seriously damage.

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I think that what people like Chris, my brother in law, and many others don’t realize is that it is events Like this, though not necessarily this, that create bottlenecks and/or literally end species.

Simple little things can cause mass extinctions of entire life forms, like the American Chestnut.

Let’s not be American Chestnuts. :smiling_face:

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Or if anybody even stays “recovered”.

Hasn’t occurred to the “just like the flu” crowd that this thing might just keep coming.

This round, 150,000 dead.

Next round, who knows?

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Also, some male patients from Wuhan have reported significant testicular shrinking that apparently doesn’t heal

No it wouldn’t. Think about what you are saying. It would be like having TWO flu seasons, one of them bad, at the same time, i.e., corona and the flu (it won’t be one or the other and, you could catch both). And the assumption is that it would be like a very bad flu season. It could be like an incredibly, never happened before, flu season.

But let’s say we don’t take preventive measures for Corona and accept that X amount of people will die from the flu and a number that is greater than X will die from Corona (and this is not even factoring in hospitalizations). Then some other virus hits. Now what? What if a fourth? At what point do we say that we need to try and keep as many people from dying (let alone getting sick) as possible? Are 3 or 4 viruses, each one killing the same number of people as a bad flu season (and again, we aren’t even talking about hospitalizations), going to warrant taking preventative measures?

What I’m asking is, at what point do the people who view the economy like a living being and/or the most important element of a nation (not morals, values, culture, people) as taking a back a seat to human lives? I know you’re not American but I hear all about America this and America that. America first. Well, what about Americans? Because, if we say that America is more important than Americans (or is it more important than some Americans? Like the elderly or those who have health issues?), is it really that important after all?

And how many of those who are crying right now; who say it only affects the elderly or those with health issues and that people die all the time so why go out of our way to keep them safe. How many of them were the same ones crying about death panels with Obamacare? Now they want to choose who lives and who dies.

And why is it OK to put economic concerns over health concerns? Over life concerns? But, it’s not OK for a pregnant woman to get an abortion because she can’t afford a child? I guess when it’s YOUR (not saying you Chris) money, it changes how you feel about human life. And for those who say I’m an idiot for not seeing the difference, I would answer that they are the hypocrites for seeing a difference.

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I guess I just don’t understand when you would like the United State economy to reopen. And I’m not talking slow, selective reopening. I’m talking everything is operational. How long do we wait? The effectiveness of a vaccine, assuming it is successfully created in the next 12-18 months, will most likely have the same rate of effectiveness as the flu shot. 30%-50%.

It’s not closed. I still work and get a paycheck. I still go shopping and put gas (less now) in my car. And I still pay taxes.

Fine. “Non-essential” businesses.

If they are non-essential, let them die. Why should our health, which is essential, be less important than something which is non-essential?

Wow. I legitimately believe you now hate this country. Do you have any idea the amount of people who work at these jobs and depend on a paycheck. And who is to say someone is an “essential” or “non-essential” employee. EVERY employee is essential. If a business didn’t have it’s employees, it would fail.

Wait, so now you care about human life?

You just did.

I care about people being able to maintain their standard of living. I do not care, or follow, draconian measures from ineffective governments.

Also, if you were considered non-essential, I’m positive you would be singing a different tune.

You ever clean out a jammed chipper?

A big log sometimes gets jammed in the box and can’t feed into the cutter wheel, so you have to shut the machine down and open up the feed rollers, remove the chunk, etc. But you have to wait for the cutter wheel to stop.

Maybe it only takes off your finger or hand. Maybe it only slices off the frontal lobe of your brain.

Or maybe you just wait for the wheel to stop.

How much are You, Personally, Mr. Everybodygetsone willing to lose?

How many people? Family members? Seats at the table for Thanksgiving?

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Haven’t lost any to date. Nobody is even sick. Proof our government is full of shit.

And that’s the problem, isn’t it? No one wants to look at things from someone else’s perspective. It’s all, me, me, me! Me no wanna wear mask. Me no care. Me do what me want. Me free. Sound familiar?

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I asked for a number. How many people are you personally willing to see die?

What is your number?

Which ones of your family are you willing to see die?

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Me, me, me…

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