Cops At Their Finest

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
PGA wrote:

I respect those cops, so long as they dont abuse their power.

A bit off topic here, but the husband of one of my female clients is a muscular 250 pound police officer, and sometimes I’m just fine with him ‘abusing his power’.

I remember him telling me one time about when he responded to a domestic dispute call and upon entering the house, found 2 dogs that were terribly beaten.

He then proceeded to beat the shit out of the guy while yelling “stop resisting arrest!”, which apparently makes a beating completely legal.

Granted, I wouldn’t want a cop to pull the “stop resisting arrest” method on my Mother or something, but since I would love to beat the shit out of some people who deserve it but can’t, I’m happy to let some cops do it for me.[/quote]

See, I like THAT. He’s abusing his power for GOOD, not so he can double park and eat his/her 1/2 priced lunch or running red lights because they dont feel like sitting at a light.

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[quote]wfifer wrote:
While we clearly don’t know exactly how the chief typically behaved, if the letter is any indication of his “abuse” then this is absolutely retarded. I don’t like fat people or cops…fat cops should be shat on. [/quote]

You don’t like cops…unless they are filing your theft reports or protecting your mother from a mugger or rendering first aid to your kids.

You fucking idiot.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
OK, so you fire the guy wjho tries to get people to start taking care of themselves?

Would a memo telling all of the cops where to get free fried chicken wings have gotten a promotion?

Do they think we don’t notice the 50+" waist lines?

I see cops who look absolutely pathetic. The thought of them carrying a fire arm doesn’t put me at ease. I would think a cop completely out of his class in strength, speed or agility from even the average person would be more likely to shoot first before attempting any other form pf physical action…simply because they can’t do anything else.

Maybe if we pretend it isn’t there, the extreme obesity will disappear.[/quote]

Your fat boy statements are also true for most female officers and skinny ass 120 - 150lb male officers. Sure they might be able to catch the bad guy but then the bad guy kicks the holy hell out of them.

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[quote]PGA wrote:
Professor X wrote:
The real question is, why are cops allowed to stay on the force in that kind of shape? Why aren’t they fired if they get that damned fat?

They should be given ONE notice to get in shape. If they dont, fire their asses. Its a disgrace to the real police officers not the “jelly bellies” posing as officers.[/quote]

I agree. Our police force should be held to the same physical standards as our Military. If you fail a PT test in the Military you are put on a fat boy program and can’t promote. You have a certain time period to get in shape or ship out.

Thanks to the unions and EEO that’s not going to happen.

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They already have to pass a physical test to become police officers, right? Why not simply have them repeat the test each year? With appropriate measures for those who fail it (desk duty, traffic duty, mandatory physical training, whatever…)

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Would a memo telling all of the cops where to get free fried chicken wings have gotten a promotion?
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Actually, pretty much every restaurant that knows you’re a cop will give you free food. At least that was my experience the few times I went out with one of my friend who’s a cop. We’d pig out, get great service and never see a bill.

When I worked at a convenience store, we didn’t charge cops for coffee or pastries.

In return, they were damn quick in getting there when we called 911.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Cops are given the ability to take a life and can basically break any minor rules set up for the rest of us and, unless it is a major offense, nothing will ever be said about it. I see cops speeding without their lights on daily yet I would get a ticket in the same circumstance. [/quote]

Even a DDS is given the ability to take a life.

Cops aren’t given the ability or authority to take a life. They are trained with equipment and tactics to PROTECT life using deadly force if necessary.

The general public doesn’t realize the scrutiny that officers undergo for ALL altercations, whether it’s less than deadly force or deadly force. A lot of officers are punished and fired for going overboard on their field adjudications. It’s just not generally advertised. Intent, Capability & Opportunity. All three must be present or your ass is grass.

As for officers speeding. Just because the lights and sirens aren’t on doesn’t mean the officer is not responding to an incident. There are many incidents that call for silent response. Lights and sirens might only be used to get through red lights or stop signs.

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[quote]MaloVerde wrote:
I agree. Our police force should be held to the same physical standards as our Military. If you fail a PT test in the Military you are put on a fat boy program and can’t promote. You have a certain time period to get in shape or ship out.

Thanks to the unions and EEO that’s not going to happen.

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Our local enforcement has a woman whos under 5 feet tall and is fat. Shes a real officer not a metermaid. I would like to know what she could possibly do to anybody besides call on the rover or fire at someone.

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While I am not a law inforcement officer, I work directly with them, and I fully agree that they need to trim up, A LOT! I also think that some officers should retire. There are some officers that I know that are in their 60’s. And that is too old to be working with the public. If you HAVE to work in your 60’s then you should be in the command staff, or in dispatch, but not in a position where you might have to use force. But thats my shitty little opinion.

Corrections officers are bad too. An awful lot of them look like the prisoners could beat the living daylights out of them if they so choose.

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[quote]pookie wrote:
They already have to pass a physical test to become police officers, right? Why not simply have them repeat the test each year? With appropriate measures for those who fail it (desk duty, traffic duty, mandatory physical training, whatever…)

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Unions.

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[quote]MaloVerde wrote:
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As for officers speeding. Just because the lights and sirens aren’t on doesn’t mean the officer is not responding to an incident. There are many incidents that call for silent response. Lights and sirens might only be used to get through red lights or stop signs.

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This is mostly horseshit. When a cop is going 90 MPH on the highway it is not because he is sneaking up on someone in a dangerous situation that requires stealth.

He is endangering everyone else on the road because he is in a hurry and he can get away with it. This is the kind of stuff that happens all the time and costs the cops a lot of respect.

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
While I am not a law inforcement officer, I work directly with them, and I fully agree that they need to trim up, A LOT! I also think that some officers should retire. There are some officers that I know that are in their 60’s. And that is too old to be working with the public. If you HAVE to work in your 60’s then you should be in the command staff, or in dispatch, but not in a position where you might have to use force. But thats my shitty little opinion.

Corrections officers are bad too. An awful lot of them look like the prisoners could beat the living daylights out of them if they so choose.[/quote]

And you’ll never be a cop until you can spell ENFORCEMENT properly. Ha ha!

Side note Barney: I gave you the number the ball is in your court.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
MaloVerde wrote:
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As for officers speeding. Just because the lights and sirens aren’t on doesn’t mean the officer is not responding to an incident. There are many incidents that call for silent response. Lights and sirens might only be used to get through red lights or stop signs.

This is mostly horseshit. When a cop is going 90 MPH on the highway it is not because he is sneaking up on someone in a dangerous situation that requires stealth.

He is endangering everyone else on the road because he is in a hurry and he can get away with it. This is the kind of stuff that happens all the time and costs the cops a lot of respect.[/quote]

And you know this how? Because you saw it on television? Most non-cops are driving over 90mph on the highways these days. How do you think officers are going to catch them? Driving backwards real fast to break the time continuum? (sp?)

If you want me to give you a list of situations that call for silent response I will. But obviously you already know everything so it wouldn’t be new information.

If you are concerned with an officers speeding or actions, get his car number, call the station and report it. It will not be blown off. If the officer was wrong he/she will be corrected. Follow up on it to make sure it was addressed.

But that would take an effort on your part.

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[quote]PGA wrote:
They’re supposed to be fearless in protecting us…[quote]

i hope this isnt really what you think. If cops were truly fearless they would not only be endangering themselves, but also the very people they protect. Having that fear is what makes them more effective at their job.

The article you posted is definitely another sad example of the physical standards of police forces nationwide.

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[quote]MaloVerde wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
MaloVerde wrote:
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As for officers speeding. Just because the lights and sirens aren’t on doesn’t mean the officer is not responding to an incident. There are many incidents that call for silent response. Lights and sirens might only be used to get through red lights or stop signs.

This is mostly horseshit. When a cop is going 90 MPH on the highway it is not because he is sneaking up on someone in a dangerous situation that requires stealth.

He is endangering everyone else on the road because he is in a hurry and he can get away with it. This is the kind of stuff that happens all the time and costs the cops a lot of respect.

And you know this how? Because you saw it on television? Most non-cops are driving over 90mph on the highways these days. How do you think officers are going to catch them? Driving backwards real fast to break the time continuum? (sp?)

If you want me to give you a list of situations that call for silent response I will. But obviously you already know everything so it wouldn’t be new information.

If you are concerned with an officers speeding or actions, get his car number, call the station and report it. It will not be blown off. If the officer was wrong he/she will be corrected. Follow up on it to make sure it was addressed.

But that would take an effort on your part.

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How do I know? I witness it at least once a week.

The cop blasts by everyone going at least 20 MPH faster without lights just to pull into his next hiding spot so he can run radar and catch people going slower than he was.

Our courts are a joke too when it comes too traffic enforcement and revenue enhancement. Justice and the law have nothing to do with it. It is all about money.

The idea of catching the cops speeding and reporting them is silly. This has been done countless times and nothing ever comes of it. There was a big article in the local paper about a year ago about this very thing and it is clear the PA State Troopers just cover their own.

Trying to make it seem that it is my responsiblity to make them adhere to the rules that the rest of us must is also silly.

The fact is that most cops drive too fast and flaunt the traffic laws they are paid to uphold. This makes them lose a lot of respect in the community.

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[quote]Bootsie wrote:
i hope this isnt really what you think. If cops were truly fearless they would not only be endangering themselves, but also the very people they protect. Having that fear is what makes them more effective at their job.

The article you posted is definitely another sad example of the physical standards of police forces nationwide. [/quote]

Maybe fearless wasnt the best word. What I meant was they should be able to keep their cool and make rational decisions under any situation. If they can get so rattled as to ask for the dismissal of someone who ASKED if they’re chubby I would not feel to comfortable with them in a stressful situation.

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[quote]MaloVerde wrote:
Wrote stuff…
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Malo, you cannot sit there and tell us that almost every cop does not go over the speed limit, run red lights, etc just because they can. I see it on a daily basis and so do most Americans.

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[quote]MaloVerde wrote:
get his car number, call the station and report it. It will not be blown off. If the officer was wrong he/she will be corrected. Follow up on it to make sure it was addressed.[/quote]

Yeah, get to be known as “the guy who complains about cops all the time.” That should make for an interesting life.

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Man… this is why I dig hanging out at T-Nation. Anywhere else this subject is brought up, I might get a couple grunts of “that’s silly”, but this is the only place that truly understands how painfully stupid that news bite is.

As for cops abusing power: a guy I used to go to school with got onto the local force. Took up working out hardcore. Packed on slabs of muscle at an obscene rate, his endurance was through the roof. He was pulling shit that should have, by all rights, been over-training. But it worked for him.

Yeah, he used his badge to pick up chicks, get free food, and he and his partner would regularly break the speed limit or a dozen other small violations of minor laws that inconvenienced them.

On the flipside, he was really and truly dedicated to helping people. Part of his behaviour was his just being a young punk who still had some growing up to do, but when it came to the crunch he was into the job for entirely idealistic reasons. Several of the cops I’ve known have gotten into the profession for similar reasons.

There’s a balance in there somewhere.

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[quote]PGA wrote:
MaloVerde wrote:
Wrote stuff…

Malo, you cannot sit there and tell us that almost every cop does not go over the speed limit, run red lights, etc just because they can. I see it on a daily basis and so do most Americans.[/quote]

That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Do you think cops are out there just joyriding? There is a job to do. You must have had a few bad experiences with cops but come on, you have to be kidding.

I don’t know what you’re seeing, but do you really speak for most Americans?

I have seen officers do things I don’t agree with, but to make a blanket statement that all or most do ANYTHING is just foolish.