lol what the fuck? if you watch carefully, the cop jizzes himself the moment he begins to throw the skater around. He enjoys the arbitrary power apparently
[quote]Bungalow wrote:
I wonder if the kid was serious when he said he doesn’t have a father… cop is an asshole
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That was lip. You can tell cause his friend tells him to shutup. He would have been fine if he had just taken it. Cop is a dick but the kid is a punk. I’ve been yelled at tons of times by cops when I was a teenager. You sack up and take it and you thank them afterward. Then you don’t get manhandled and embarassed. Simple equation.
I agree though. Cop is an asshole.
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]Bungalow wrote:
I wonder if the kid was serious when he said he doesn’t have a father… cop is an asshole
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That was lip. You can tell cause his friend tells him to shutup. He would have been fine if he had just taken it. Cop is a dick but the kid is a punk. I’ve been yelled at tons of times by cops when I was a teenager. You sack up and take it and you thank them afterward. Then you don’t get manhandled and embarassed. Simple equation.
I agree though. Cop is an asshole.[/quote]
That situation doesn’t really fly here. The cop in the first video seemed to just have it out for these kids. In such a situation no amount of yes sir thank you sir is gonna save you. I agree that in every situation you should treat a cop with respect, because it’ll most likely save you a ton of trouble but when some idiot with a superiority complex starts bullshitting I’ll tell him to go fuck himself too.
Now, when a cop puts his hands on you without legitimate reason, can you use force to stop him/her? Is that still “self defence”?
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]Bungalow wrote:
I wonder if the kid was serious when he said he doesn’t have a father… cop is an asshole
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That was lip. You can tell cause his friend tells him to shutup. He would have been fine if he had just taken it. Cop is a dick but the kid is a punk. I’ve been yelled at tons of times by cops when I was a teenager. You sack up and take it and you thank them afterward. Then you don’t get manhandled and embarassed. Simple equation.
I agree though. Cop is an asshole.[/quote]
agreed.
Anyone know what happened to “officer riviera”?? There HAD to be some consequences for what he did.
The best part is at the end when he said “is that camera on? I swear if i end up on youtu…” then it cuts out… and he ends up on youtube! HA!
.greg.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]Bungalow wrote:
I wonder if the kid was serious when he said he doesn’t have a father… cop is an asshole
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That was lip. You can tell cause his friend tells him to shutup. He would have been fine if he had just taken it. Cop is a dick but the kid is a punk. I’ve been yelled at tons of times by cops when I was a teenager. You sack up and take it and you thank them afterward. Then you don’t get manhandled and embarassed. Simple equation.
I agree though. Cop is an asshole.[/quote]
That situation doesn’t really fly here. The cop in the first video seemed to just have it out for these kids. In such a situation no amount of yes sir thank you sir is gonna save you. I agree that in every situation you should treat a cop with respect, because it’ll most likely save you a ton of trouble but when some idiot with a superiority complex starts bullshitting I’ll tell him to go fuck himself too.
Now, when a cop puts his hands on you without legitimate reason, can you use force to stop him/her? Is that still “self defence”?[/quote]
No, they’ll just consider physical resistance as a reason to forcefully restrain you. You can fight charges, you can’t fight a LEO.
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]Bungalow wrote:
I wonder if the kid was serious when he said he doesn’t have a father… cop is an asshole
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That was lip. You can tell cause his friend tells him to shutup. He would have been fine if he had just taken it. Cop is a dick but the kid is a punk. I’ve been yelled at tons of times by cops when I was a teenager. You sack up and take it and you thank them afterward. Then you don’t get manhandled and embarassed. Simple equation.
I agree though. Cop is an asshole.[/quote]
That situation doesn’t really fly here. The cop in the first video seemed to just have it out for these kids. In such a situation no amount of yes sir thank you sir is gonna save you. I agree that in every situation you should treat a cop with respect, because it’ll most likely save you a ton of trouble but when some idiot with a superiority complex starts bullshitting I’ll tell him to go fuck himself too.
Now, when a cop puts his hands on you without legitimate reason, can you use force to stop him/her? Is that still “self defence”?[/quote]
No, they’ll just consider physical resistance as a reason to forcefully restrain you. You can fight charges, you can’t fight a LEO.
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system is broken and favors cops cough cough the state protects the fuckers who abuse power cough
cough.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]Bungalow wrote:
I wonder if the kid was serious when he said he doesn’t have a father… cop is an asshole
[/quote]
That was lip. You can tell cause his friend tells him to shutup. He would have been fine if he had just taken it. Cop is a dick but the kid is a punk. I’ve been yelled at tons of times by cops when I was a teenager. You sack up and take it and you thank them afterward. Then you don’t get manhandled and embarassed. Simple equation.
I agree though. Cop is an asshole.[/quote]
That situation doesn’t really fly here. The cop in the first video seemed to just have it out for these kids. In such a situation no amount of yes sir thank you sir is gonna save you. I agree that in every situation you should treat a cop with respect, because it’ll most likely save you a ton of trouble but when some idiot with a superiority complex starts bullshitting I’ll tell him to go fuck himself too.
Now, when a cop puts his hands on you without legitimate reason, can you use force to stop him/her? Is that still “self defence”?[/quote]
I think even a little yes sir no sir would have saved him instead of whining I didn’t hear you. Kid was stupid.
You are 17, and full of shit. You would not tell a cop that was in your face to go fuck himself. And if you did you would either wind up with a disorderly conduct charge or a black eye.
I don’t really see the problem (commenting on the first video only). It would be good to know why he was speaking to the kids to begin with, but the video started a little late to catch that. It’s not like they were just minding their own business and the cop came up to cause trouble. He’s speaking to the kids for a reason, and then the one kid starts to give some lip and shit ensues. The video only shows half of the story, and that’s the half that makes the cop look bad.
The question was asked:
“Now, when a cop puts his hands on you without legitimate reason, can you use force to stop him/her? Is that still “self defence”?”
No. That would be considered Resisting Arrest or Assault PO (depending on what you do), which is a criminal offence, and then the cop would use higher levels of force to make the arrest (such as the girl in the fast food video). The cop will make an arrest if he/she believes that there are Reasonable and Probable Grounds (RPGs) that a person committed an offence. Even if the cop has the wrong person, if that person resists arrest, then that person is committing a new offence, and shit ensues. It’s best to just go with it, and then be released later with no problems after more investigation has been done. RPGs for arrest is not the same as the burden of proof for charges or court. RPGs are based on REASONABLE PROBABILITY. If the cop has that, then they can lawfully arrest someone, even if it turns out that the cop is wrong. Like it or not, that is the law under federal statute.
[quote]rasturai wrote:
This one is a lot worse. And this is coming from a REAL cop. These videos really make my blood boil…if you see this happening no matter what you do YOUR FUCKED. I mean really…what would you do if you worked at this fast food restaurant and this was happening to you? lose-lose situation…you either take it (lose) or you fight him (lose, they will beat your ass in jail)
Shitty that the cop kept his job. But I’d take pepper spray and a night in the clink for $60,000. Shit, when spend I night in the graybar hotel, I gotta pay.
GSD from what I know there is another video of officer riviera, so it’s not a first time.
As well GSD, you are in the law enforcement business…the drive thru video…c’mon man…that is 100% RE-TARDED. The girl didn’t have the money, the manager said no money. So the cop goes in, tells her he wants the money…shes under arrest and she’s going with him…for what?
How does that make sense?
She clearly wasn’t guilty of anything, she’s saying he can strip search her and everything. She was in the right completely…so when we are in the right we have to still back-down to the cops…I’m pretty sure most people would be VERY confused if they were in that situation. Granted maybe she shouldn’t have raised her voice. I wouldn’t have raised my voice like she did, or I wouldn’t have sworn at him…but I’d definately have a hard time accepting to go with him when I haven’t done anything wrong.
“A dude is someone who works on a ranch!”
[quote]rasturai wrote:
As well GSD, you are in the law enforcement business…the drive thru video…c’mon man…that is 100% RE-TARDED. The girl didn’t have the money, the manager said no money. So the cop goes in, tells her he wants the money…shes under arrest and she’s going with him…for what?
How does that make sense?
She clearly wasn’t guilty of anything, she’s saying he can strip search her and everything. She was in the right completely…so when we are in the right we have to still back-down to the cops…I’m pretty sure most people would be VERY confused if they were in that situation. Granted maybe she shouldn’t have raised her voice. I wouldn’t have raised my voice like she did, or I wouldn’t have sworn at him…but I’d definately have a hard time accepting to go with him when I haven’t done anything wrong.[/quote]
Yeah, the entire situation is ridiculous. Any reasonable guy would probably have admitted that he was wrong when the manager checked the cash register too.
However, he was making an arrest because he believed he had the RPGs to justify that arrest. So resisting that arrest is never a good idea. That’s how you get a face full of pepper. As hard as it may be, go with it. Cooperate. That keeps things from getting out of hand and someone with a foot up their ass. Also, if you are cooperative and the cop made a stupid arrest, as in that situation, you look that much better when you make a complaint to the department. There are right and wrong ways to deal with things. In that situation the cop screwed up by making a dumb arrest in a stupid situation. The woman screwed up by resisting arrest (a criminal offence). They both were in the wrong, so they both look like idiots.
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]Bungalow wrote:
I wonder if the kid was serious when he said he doesn’t have a father… cop is an asshole
[/quote]
That was lip. You can tell cause his friend tells him to shutup. He would have been fine if he had just taken it. Cop is a dick but the kid is a punk. I’ve been yelled at tons of times by cops when I was a teenager. You sack up and take it and you thank them afterward. Then you don’t get manhandled and embarassed. Simple equation.
I agree though. Cop is an asshole.[/quote]
That situation doesn’t really fly here. The cop in the first video seemed to just have it out for these kids. In such a situation no amount of yes sir thank you sir is gonna save you. I agree that in every situation you should treat a cop with respect, because it’ll most likely save you a ton of trouble but when some idiot with a superiority complex starts bullshitting I’ll tell him to go fuck himself too.
Now, when a cop puts his hands on you without legitimate reason, can you use force to stop him/her? Is that still “self defence”?[/quote]
I think even a little yes sir no sir would have saved him instead of whining I didn’t hear you. Kid was stupid.
You are 17, and full of shit. You would not tell a cop that was in your face to go fuck himself. And if you did you would either wind up with a disorderly conduct charge or a black eye.[/quote]
Actually, in Pa you can tell a cop to go fuck himself. You may get charged with disorderly conduct, but you can also cite Commonwealth of PA Vs. Hock, get the charges dropped, and sue the municipality that employs the cop for violating your freedom of speech.
Guess how I know this! I didn’t do the lawsuit part, but my attorney really wanted to.
Did you feel really badass about it afterwards???
[quote]rasturai wrote:
GSD from what I know there is another video of officer riviera, so it’s not a first time.
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We had a couple of cops like officer Riviera when I was a kid. They were a lot of fun to fuck with.
One of our favorites was setting up an ambush on a railroad trestle and calling them. When they arrived, we’d bomb the shit out of them with snowballs, rocks, bottles and what ever else we could throw.
With a good head start we would split through the woods and drive them crazy all night chasing us. Those were some good times.
Doesn’t she have a right to resist arrest though in that circumstance? I mean it seems like most people would NOT want to get arrested and would try to talk their way out of it (like she did)…it’s not like she pushed the cop to resist arrest. Again it’s a man vs. a 17 year old girl lol.
However ridiculous this all seems I WILL take your advice of go along with it in a situation like that. If I’m in public…any other situation for such a minor thing like that (if I’m in the right) I will most definately tell the cop to fuck off and RUN. Like those teens with officer rivieri…i WILL run like forest gump lol. Anything else I will oblige 100%. I know it is dumb to argue with them, I would never do such a thing…it just really gets to me when I see a cop beating someone up for no damn reason other than they want to feel that power on someone. In that case…they really should lose their job…and the victim needs some compensation.
In your time being in the enforcement have you seen these things happen in your department or departments around you? If I was a officer I would be paranoid as fuck thinking someone would try to get me after in the streets when not being a cop.
[quote]BobCat77 wrote:
Did you feel really badass about it afterwards???[/quote]
Actually, yes.
Total ownage of a cop as he lies on the stand and embarrassing him for not knowing the laws he is supposed to be enforcing is pretty fucking badass.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]rasturai wrote:
GSD from what I know there is another video of officer riviera, so it’s not a first time.
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We had a couple of cops like officer Riviera when I was a kid. They were a lot of fun to fuck with.
One of our favorites was setting up an ambush on a railroad trestle and calling them. When they arrived, we’d bomb the shit out of them with snowballs, rocks, bottles and what ever else we could throw.
With a good head start we would split through the woods and drive them crazy all night chasing us. Those were some good times.
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Hahaha nice man, you guys wre really asking for it eh!!
I can only imagine the rush of somethin like that lol.