Continuation on the Reproductive Rights Topic

[quote]ephrem wrote:<<< It won’t mean the end of humanity, but it will mean the end of society as we currently know it. >>>[/quote]How do we currently know it in your estimation and is your prognosis good or bad?

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Here is an “enlightened” Europe teaching sex to 5 year olds. Anybody think this isn’t where we are headed?

Sex education: Do you want your 5-year old child 'given explicit lessons'¿? | Daily Mail Online [/quote]

All the material has been recommended by councils for use at ages ‘seven-plus’.

Children at these ages are already subjected to sexuality through the various media-outlets.

There’s nothing wrong with teaching them about sexuality in a controled environment like a classroom.

If the covers of the books are anything to go by I’d say it’s age-appropiate.
[/quote]

Yeah, they need to know what an orgasm feels like and what sexual positions their parents might useâ?¦

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Here is an “enlightened” Europe teaching sex to 5 year olds. Anybody think this isn’t where we are headed?

Sex education: Do you want your 5-year old child 'given explicit lessons'¿? | Daily Mail Online [/quote]

All the material has been recommended by councils for use at ages ‘seven-plus’.

Children at these ages are already subjected to sexuality through the various media-outlets.

There’s nothing wrong with teaching them about sexuality in a controled environment like a classroom.

If the covers of the books are anything to go by I’d say it’s age-appropiate.
[/quote]

You know I’ve given a few examples of what was taught in my boys school (as I explained a few pages back with Cortes).

But I don’t see a need for this…
“includes material to allow children aged five to 11 to learn about different sexual positions and PROSTITUTION.”

Really?

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:<<< It won’t mean the end of humanity, but it will mean the end of society as we currently know it. >>>[/quote]How do we currently know it in your estimation and is your prognosis good or bad?
[/quote]

It is what it is, and my personal view of current events is that there’s a struggle going on between the old guard, that wants to maintain the old status-quo, and the new technologicaly advanced generation who want a different kind of society.

It can swing both ways with a slight favor to the old guard; they have the finances, the military and the police force on their side.

I’d like to see a rational, humanist approach to technological advances that benefit mankind, instead of a smal subset of people. That moment is coming as technology continues to slide towards a paradigm shift. The next few years are make or break.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Here is an “enlightened” Europe teaching sex to 5 year olds. Anybody think this isn’t where we are headed?

Sex education: Do you want your 5-year old child 'given explicit lessons'¿? | Daily Mail Online [/quote]

All the material has been recommended by councils for use at ages ‘seven-plus’.

Children at these ages are already subjected to sexuality through the various media-outlets.

There’s nothing wrong with teaching them about sexuality in a controled environment like a classroom.

If the covers of the books are anything to go by I’d say it’s age-appropiate.
[/quote]

Yeah, they need to know what an orgasm feels like and what sexual positions their parents might useâ?¦[/quote]

OMG! Orgasm is such a bad word, kids can’t ever know what it means!

Meanwhile little 8 years old Lucy rubs her teddybear between her legs because it feels nice.

Just ignoring sexuality as if it doesn’t exist simply does not work.

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Here is an “enlightened” Europe teaching sex to 5 year olds. Anybody think this isn’t where we are headed?

Sex education: Do you want your 5-year old child 'given explicit lessons'¿? | Daily Mail Online [/quote]

All the material has been recommended by councils for use at ages ‘seven-plus’.

Children at these ages are already subjected to sexuality through the various media-outlets.

There’s nothing wrong with teaching them about sexuality in a controled environment like a classroom.

If the covers of the books are anything to go by I’d say it’s age-appropiate.
[/quote]

You know I’ve given a few examples of what was taught in my boys school (as I explained a few pages back with Cortes).

But I don’t see a need for this…
“includes material to allow children aged five to 11 to learn about different sexual positions and PROSTITUTION.”

Really?[/quote]

For someone who lives in a country that has legalised prostitution I don’t find that out of the ordinary, to be honest.

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Here is an “enlightened” Europe teaching sex to 5 year olds. Anybody think this isn’t where we are headed?

Sex education: Do you want your 5-year old child 'given explicit lessons'¿? | Daily Mail Online [/quote]

All the material has been recommended by councils for use at ages ‘seven-plus’.

Children at these ages are already subjected to sexuality through the various media-outlets.

There’s nothing wrong with teaching them about sexuality in a controled environment like a classroom.

If the covers of the books are anything to go by I’d say it’s age-appropiate.
[/quote]

Yeah, they need to know what an orgasm feels like and what sexual positions their parents might use�¢?�¦[/quote]

OMG! Orgasm is such a bad word, kids can’t ever know what it means!

Meanwhile little 8 years old Lucy rubs her teddybear between her legs because it feels nice.

Just ignoring sexuality as if it doesn’t exist simply does not work.[/quote]

Strawman. Never called it a bad word. And you are saying that rubbing her teddybear without knowing what an orgasm is is a failure of some sort. Why? how is that a failure? Why is that bad? Why is it better her dad describes the feeling in her crotch during an orgasm first? How is that making it better?

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Here is an “enlightened” Europe teaching sex to 5 year olds. Anybody think this isn’t where we are headed?

Sex education: Do you want your 5-year old child 'given explicit lessons'¿? | Daily Mail Online [/quote]

All the material has been recommended by councils for use at ages ‘seven-plus’.

Children at these ages are already subjected to sexuality through the various media-outlets.

There’s nothing wrong with teaching them about sexuality in a controled environment like a classroom.

If the covers of the books are anything to go by I’d say it’s age-appropiate.
[/quote]

You know I’ve given a few examples of what was taught in my boys school (as I explained a few pages back with Cortes).

But I don’t see a need for this…
“includes material to allow children aged five to 11 to learn about different sexual positions and PROSTITUTION.”

Really?[/quote]

For someone who lives in a country that has legalised prostitution I don’t find that out of the ordinary, to be honest.
[/quote]

If you are teaching 5 year olds prostitution, the whole “age appropriate” argument is full of shit.

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Here is an “enlightened” Europe teaching sex to 5 year olds. Anybody think this isn’t where we are headed?

Sex education: Do you want your 5-year old child 'given explicit lessons'¿? | Daily Mail Online [/quote]

All the material has been recommended by councils for use at ages ‘seven-plus’.

Children at these ages are already subjected to sexuality through the various media-outlets.

There’s nothing wrong with teaching them about sexuality in a controled environment like a classroom.

If the covers of the books are anything to go by I’d say it’s age-appropiate.
[/quote]

You know I’ve given a few examples of what was taught in my boys school (as I explained a few pages back with Cortes).

But I don’t see a need for this…
“includes material to allow children aged five to 11 to learn about different sexual positions and PROSTITUTION.”

Really?[/quote]

For someone who lives in a country that has legalised prostitution I don’t find that out of the ordinary, to be honest.
[/quote]

Really so it would have been ok for my 10 year old to go bang a hooker?

Look… man, there’s jumping to extremes, …you know, and then… there’s, like, keeping a level head about things, you know?

[quote]ephrem wrote:<<< It is what it is, and my personal view of current events is that there’s a struggle going on between the old guard, that wants to maintain the old status-quo, and the new technologicaly advanced generation who want a different kind of society.

It can swing both ways with a slight favor to the old guard; they have the finances, the military and the police force on their side.

I’d like to see a rational, humanist approach to technological advances that benefit mankind, instead of a smal subset of people. That moment is coming as technology continues to slide towards a paradigm shift. The next few years are make or break.[/quote]You really think technology is the driving force behind any of this? That is cheap intellectually opportunistic crackpottery Ephrem and far beneath your powers.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:<<< It is what it is, and my personal view of current events is that there’s a struggle going on between the old guard, that wants to maintain the old status-quo, and the new technologicaly advanced generation who want a different kind of society.

It can swing both ways with a slight favor to the old guard; they have the finances, the military and the police force on their side.

I’d like to see a rational, humanist approach to technological advances that benefit mankind, instead of a smal subset of people. That moment is coming as technology continues to slide towards a paradigm shift. The next few years are make or break.[/quote]You really think technology is the driving force behind any of this? That is cheap intellectually opportunistic crackpottery Ephrem and far beneath your powers.
[/quote]

No Tiribulus, it’s a fairly accurate observation based on current affairs.

Yes, Planned Parenthood.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Yes, Planned Parenthood.[/quote]

Why the hell are you posting this?

This is not an abortion thread. You’re just trying to cloud the issue.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Yes, Planned Parenthood.[/quote]

BC is back!

Where you been, Bro?

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/03/01/435524/senate-kills-blunts-anti-contraception-amendment/?mobile=nc

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Yes, Planned Parenthood.[/quote]

BC is back!

Where you been, Bro? [/quote]

Religious sabbatical from technology.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Yes, Planned Parenthood.[/quote]

Why the hell are you posting this?

This is not an abortion thread. You’re just trying to cloud the issue.[/quote]

Very sorry and I apologize, I should have paid better attention to the subject of this debate. For some reason I thought it was about Planned Parenthood. I was showing how right PP can be. But, if it’s not about PP please ignore my previous post.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Yes, Planned Parenthood.[/quote]

Why the hell are you posting this?

This is not an abortion thread. You’re just trying to cloud the issue.[/quote]

Very sorry and I apologize, I should have paid better attention to the subject of this debate. For some reason I thought it was about Planned Parenthood. I was showing how right PP can be. But, if it’s not about PP please ignore my previous post.[/quote]

It was supposed to be about PP but the discussion was quickly changed to something else after the original topic was ignored. The PP statement was neither right or wrong, it was just their stance on a particular issue at the time.

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Yes, Planned Parenthood.[/quote]

Why the hell are you posting this?

This is not an abortion thread. You’re just trying to cloud the issue.[/quote]

Very sorry and I apologize, I should have paid better attention to the subject of this debate. For some reason I thought it was about Planned Parenthood. I was showing how right PP can be. But, if it’s not about PP please ignore my previous post.[/quote]

It was supposed to be about PP but the discussion was quickly changed to something else after the original topic was ignored. The PP statement was neither right or wrong, it was just their stance on a particular issue at the time. [/quote]

I don’t follow. What statement are we talking about here?