Confused by Blood Work After PCT

Pharma
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I just had blood work done after PCT and I was very surprised by the result.

The cycle was 10 weeks of Sustanon 250 mg/week and Equipoise 540 mg/week, and then two weeks of Testosterone Propionate only, 300 mg/week. Then followed PCT with Nolvadex 20 mg/day for four weeks. It is now 0.5 weeks after Nolvadex, 4.5 weeks after Propionate , 6.5 weeks after Sustanon/Equipoise.

With these dosages I expect all esters to have cleared out of my system a few weeks ago. Right now I have typical symptoms of low test: tired, depressed, etc, so I went to the lab to see what this looks like in blood work. Expected close to zero test, some E2, low LH, etc.

Check this out:

Total testosterone : 730 (280-1100), my normal off cycle is around 450.
Estradiol: 22.27 (11-44) How can it be so low at such a high testosterone? (Is the non sensitive assay though)
LH: 9.91 (2-12)
FSH: 2.65 (1.5-12.4)
Hematocrit: 51.5% (high, no surprise)
Everything else within normal ranges.

Perhaps the Nolvadex during PCT elevated the LH which in turn elevated testosterone, thats the theory anyway. But with these good numbers why am I still feeling totally out of shape? I should feel great. The only value that makes sense is the low FSH.

Can anyone make some sense out of this?

FYI, my other values, the ones that differ at all from my normal values:

Triglycerides up slightly, to be expected. However Cholesterol, HDL and LDL unaffected, which is a surprise.

Blood glucose down, probably unimportant.

Urea Nitrogen BUN up.

AST / SGOT at top of range, could be my liver is working hard or Im overtrained.

WBC at lower end.

Free T4 at higher end, but other Thyroid values normal.

I also asked for Albumin and SHBG but they forgot to do them. Next time.

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your test is that high because your nolva was legit, it will fall in the coming weeks. To what level? only another text will determine…

you probably feel like ass because you went from being a superhuman, back to being a human

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
you probably feel like ass because you went from being a superhuman, back to being a human[/quote]

Bushido Badboy (RIP) had a great line that went something like “Once you know how it feels to be Superman, you never want to go back to being Clark Kent”

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Your ast and alt liver functions may be high due to an elevated CPK (skeletal muscle enzymes) This can elevate the liver functions but is nothing to worry about. Prior to ever doing a cycle my ast and alt were up over 300 and I had a cat scan and a biopsy done and they all showed normal liver. When they finally got around to doing a CPK check they then found the reason for the elevated liver functions. Strangely enough after I started my first cycle at 51 my ast and alt dropped to normal or near normal. I attributed this to the test helping my body recover quicker and bringing down the cpk’s quicker. My doc tends to agree with that.

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[quote]drag0n252pi wrote:
Your ast and alt liver functions may be high due to an elevated CPK (skeletal muscle enzymes) This can elevate the liver functions but is nothing to worry about. Prior to ever doing a cycle my ast and alt were up over 300 and I had a cat scan and a biopsy done and they all showed normal liver. When they finally got around to doing a CPK check they then found the reason for the elevated liver functions. Strangely enough after I started my first cycle at 51 my ast and alt dropped to normal or near normal. I attributed this to the test helping my body recover quicker and bringing down the cpk’s quicker. My doc tends to agree with that.[/quote]

you really had a biopsy done on your liver…

really?

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
you probably feel like ass because you went from being a superhuman, back to being a human[/quote]

Yea it might be that simple. It probably takes a while for the brain to get used to the old self again, when all blood values are normal. Its like the withdrawal symptoms of a drug addict in rehab. Interesting to learn that good blood values doesnt automatically mean good feeling. Good feeling could lag behind and take weeks to get back.

[quote]drag0n252pi wrote:
Your ast and alt liver functions may be high due to an elevated CPK (skeletal muscle enzymes) This can elevate the liver functions but is nothing to worry about. Prior to ever doing a cycle my ast and alt were up over 300 and I had a cat scan and a biopsy done and they all showed normal liver. When they finally got around to doing a CPK check they then found the reason for the elevated liver functions. Strangely enough after I started my first cycle at 51 my ast and alt dropped to normal or near normal. I attributed this to the test helping my body recover quicker and bringing down the cpk’s quicker. My doc tends to agree with that.[/quote]

Thanks, I will keep an eye on AST in the upcoming blood works.

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rds … why do you say RIP about Bushido …?

I used to come here alot back when Bushido and Prisoner and lot of other great guys were here. Bushido was one of the great ones here. hilarious and extremely intelligent.

It would sadden me to think something happened to him and I didn’t hear about it.

GG

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[quote]GreenGoblin wrote:
rds … why do you say RIP about Bushido …?

I used to come here alot back when Bushido and Prisoner and lot of other great guys were here. Bushido was one of the great ones here. hilarious and extremely intelligent.

It would sadden me to think something happened to him and I didn’t hear about it.

GG[/quote]

sorry to worry you mate, I maybe shouldn’t have said RIP. Bushy is fine and still active on other sites.

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no worries rds. that would have been sad news indeed.
Prisoner still around?
I simply don’t have much time anymore to hang out on boards. Miss it tho.

GG

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[quote]GreenGoblin wrote:
no worries rds. that would have been sad news indeed.
Prisoner still around?
I simply don’t have much time anymore to hang out on boards. Miss it tho.

GG[/quote]

p22 is probably belittling future IFBB pros on other boards at the moment