I’m planning on doing several 6 week cycles consisting of:
3mg.3x/day: Oxavar
50mg.3x/day: 1-TU
I’ll follow up the cycle with:
4 weeks of Formastat (4-hydroxyandrostenedione; an anti-estrogen)
a tribulus terrestris based testosterone booster.
By the way, which is a better anti-estrogen, 6-oxo or formastat? There’re both suicide aromatase inhibitors.
My primary goal is to shed about 50 or 60 lbs. of fat! Secondarily, gaining a modest amount of lean mass wouldn’t hurt my feelings any.
I haven’t trained for about three years now, and I’m getting ready to turn 43. I have, however, managed to maintain a fairly large amout of muscle mass. My stats are approx. as follows:
6’, 275lbs., ~ 20% body fat
This is going to be a BIG challange, but I’ve entered a personal contest with a friend for motivation, and I’m determined to get back in shape before I get any older and it becomes more difficult.
So, has anyone used these particular pro-steroids?
Would I be wasting the 1-tu since my main goal is fat loss, not muscle building (and I’ll be dieting)?
I’ve done steroids in the past (though it’s been a long time) as well as a limited amount of pro-steroids. I’ve heard this is a very effective stack, though perhaps too much for some people.
Any thoughts, comments, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
From what I know, those aren’t real steroids. And if you do use steroids, get your bf% before using. 20% is quite high. For anti-estrogen, use nolvadex or arimidex.
Crowbar, I found this post while doing a search for oxavar. How did that cycle go? How would you compare it to 1-tu alone? I haven’t tried oxavar but have tried a cycle of 1-tu once before. How would you compare the two? Thanks. ps anyone else feel free to chime in as well…
I had never used either one, so I can’t say how they work compared to one another. I can say the stack was very nice–I gained about 12lbs. of lean mass in a 7 week cycle (all of which I was able to maintain).
My muscles felt hard, dense, and pumped all the time–which I ascribe (at least partly) to the Oxavar. It really felt like I was on Anavar. I think higher doses of Oxavar would have produced even better results (in the 12-15mg. range).
The large mass gains I ascribe to the 1-TU. The consensus seems to be that the Oxavar is not capable of producing such gains. Of course, it was the combination that produced such nice results.
I also lost body fat during this cycle!
I have found three designer steroids (I didn’t say pro-steroids as these substances are in themselves anabolic, they don’t need to be converted to another substance to become active) to be truly effective:
Mag-10 (and to a lesser degree other versions of the active androgens)
1-TU
Oxavar
The thing all three of these share is that they are anabolically active in themselves, without need for conversion.
Thanks for the feedback crowbar,
Cool that’s what I was looking for. I think I’ll just go with the oxavar alone. I’m not trying to gain that much mass (I’m 5’9" about 192) and am in pretty good shape as well as pretty strong already. I’m just trying to gain a lot more speed and power, while keeping my weight under 205 or so. I don’t want to get too bulky. Do you think I should use some TRIBEX/m after, if so do you start them the last week of the cycle?
I think you will see some good strength gains on the Oxavar alone if you use it in the 12-15mg. range.
With Oxavar it doesn’t really seem necessary to use anything in the way of PCT, as Oxavar does not seem to be suppressive (or at least only minimally so) to the HPTA, nor does it aromatize to estrogen. However, you will have less total androgens in your body after a cycle. For this reason I like to use some Clomid to stimulate endogenous testosterone after a cycle–sort of a bridge to drug-free training.
I did away with the Formastat and Tribulus, instead opting for the use of Clomid.
If you cannot (or don’t want to) get Clomid, I’d use some Alpha Male post cycle (this way your gains can continue). The Formastat, after closer examination, is not such an impressive anti-E. At any rate it’s not needed.
Yes, you can start the Alpha Male during the last week of your cycle.