First off, I’m a 27 year old male, 280 lbs.
My doctor said my testosterone levels were low (389/1000) and I needed to be on TRT.
After one month I have been in more hell than I have ever been before. Swollen, no mood increase, immediate 20 pound gain, back’s been out for weeks and that’s never happened before, body covered in weird zits that don’t pop 70% of the time, I’m done.
I heard once you go on TRT you can never come off it. My goddamn idiot GP did not tell me this, I’m scared that my body’s HPTA is now permanently broken.
Additionally, I heard balding was a sign of high T, I was thinning into balding at 25, and my libido is like that of a jackrabbit on crack and always has been. I want to know if this has permanently screwed my HPTA.
Also, he had me on 1 cc of 200mg Test Cyp IM injection weekly.
In the mean time, my sisters husband is a 6’4 body builder and went on and off T for years. He told me to slowly inject less and less over a 4 week period while taking ISatori Isa-Test GF pills every day. This is my fourth week, but I am still worried that my HPTA might be fucked.
What the hell do I do? I’m not into these kinds of things, I don’t know what to do and I don’t have the money to pay my GP to tell me everything’s fine when it’s not. I don’t want to be on this for the rest of my (probably short) life, so if someone knows how to kick this stuff without mutating (breast tissue etc) or suffering, please help. Any information for what I should do? Am I screwed? Can I come off this safely? 
I think you should listen to your on again off again bodybuilder brother in law and consider an antidepressent
You will be fine.
You could go on a low dose serm like clomid or nolvadex and LAN on an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex.
Or you could ride it out and see if you go back to normal which you most Likely will.
Don’t stress so much bro its only been a month. Once your brain knows you don’t have anymore test in your body lh and fsh will turn back on and so should testosterone production.
Have you had any testicular atrophy?
Yes, I have had a lot of shrinkage of the testicles in 1 month, I’d say more than 50% decrease in mass. However, finally reducing down to 1/4 cc every other week (only two instances of the injection before stopping. Today was my last injection) and beginning to take the pills, I’d say they recovered at least 60-70% of their lost mass. That it’s not 100% has me continually worried, but, it’s only been 3 weeks since I began.
I don’t feel any worse or any symptoms, but I heard a lot of people say crap like “This is for life”, and unless all those people are trolls…had I never heard that, I would have just dropped it cold turkey and not worried about it.
I’m doing diet/exercise now to see if that positively affects my original problems that I went to see my GP for in the first place, as well.
I don’t know what stuff your taking. What are those drugs? More steroids or pro hormones or what?
Hcg would make the balls come back and also can be used as a diagnostic tool.
nolvadex would kick lh and fsh back into gear. And restart the Hpta if taken at a low dose is somewhat safe.
Never take both at the same time.
Do you have your labs? Maybe we can help you with your issues but we need labs
I think you made the right choice to stop cause I don’t think anyone figured out why you had low T to begin with.
Trt is for life bud and it can fuck you up but after a month I am hoping and thinking you will be ok
The one thing I do worry about is your idiot doctor prolly shot your aromatase activity through the roof.
Your going to need labs estrodiol sensitive from quest if possible.
Read the advice for new guys sticky
Also estrodiol and why it matters <~~~ this one will tell you what I mean. You don’t want to come out of this estrogen dominant
The pills I’m taking are ISatori Isa-Test GF.
The stuff I was injecting was 1 cc of 200mg Testosterone Cypionate IM every week.
As for labs, I don’t have them yet. I will post again when I get them in a few days.
Ya what I’m saying is I don’t know what that shit is… Not suggested anywhere here that’s for sure
Here’s your product. I realize good and bad can be said about anything but dopamine is not something to mess with.
If you put it that way, I don’t know what it is either, beyond a natural testosterone supporter and estrogen inhibitor. My sister’s husband is taking it and she always says it has a remarkable impact on his behavior, and he says he definitely feels it. If the claims are to be believed, it increases T and decreases E by (up to) 50%…I guess if you’re really lucky. I’m not actually on any drugs.
And what you posted is a white square on my computer.
Look up your product on you tube.
Oh. The side effects of L-Dopa are pretty scary. Jesus…
Ok, since I’m completely ignorant to this whole arena and not very medically inclined, what do you suggest I do?
That’s hard to say.
I think the general advice might be different then what I might do.
Many men before you have dropped off testosterone and been ok.
I don’t really feel like without seeing some levels I would be the right place to offer advice.
Even then it would just be my opinion
You could do it a few different ways, you could get some hcg and do that for a bit and get the testies working and full again during this time you would want a low dose Ai then you would switch from that to clomid at about half the recommended dose as to not desensitize lh receptors do that for a month and then taper the dose down slowly and then finally land on the AI and ease off that.
AI = Arimidex or aromasin or letrozol
Serm = clomid or nolvadex ( some will run clomid then go to Nolva then taper off that, others run both at the same time… Ksman likes Nolva better then clomid…
Or u can go natural and test in a month
Or u can just get on a serm run it for a month and taper off it and land on the Ai
Never hcg and clomid at the same time
Read the advice for new guys sticky
Only being on a month likely hasn’t caused any long-term issues. Sounds like you are tapering off the T (slowly reducing dose over a period of weeks). Once you are finished, say the following week, I would start some low dose Nolva for a month or so. That should restart your system if it is indeed suppressed after the taper.
Research chem Nolva can be sourced easily (your BB brother in law likely has some he can give you). Looks at some topics here under the SERM restart heading for protocols.
As you have seen - there are lots of uninformed doctors out there. Your best bet is to educate yourself in the field if you are interested in continuing treatment, and then educating your doctor as a partner in the process along with way. There is a ton of great information on this site. I went through three GP before I found one that I could work with. Most endo/urologists are clueless as well. Also - most of the issues you experienced with TRT won’t be issues on a proper TRT protocol (T, AI, HCG).