I have got all this stuff on the way and am going to start my cycle on 5th January just wondered what you guys think as it combines test and tren E running continuously but I have included a GHRP, GHRH and MGF into the pins twice a week to cause a pulse, both pins are immediately post workout so I can see some possible benefits to this;
Week 1-10 (20 doses) Testosterone Enanthate 250mg Twice Weekly
Week 1-10 (20 doses) Trenbolone Enanthate 100mg Twice Weekly
Week 1-12 (24 doses) Ipamorelin GHRP 200mcg Twice Weekly
Week 1-12 (24 doses) MOD GRF 1-29 GHRH 200mcg Twice Weekly
Week 1-12 (24 doses) HCG 250iu Twice Weekly
Week 1-12 (24 doses) Cabergoline 0.5mg Twice Weekly
Week 3-12 (20 doses) PEG MGF IGF 200mcg Twice Weekly
Week 1-15 (30 doses) Arimidex 0.5mg Twice Weekly
(Sunday Morning - Wednesday Evening for Pins both post workout)
Week 13-16 Nolvadex 40\30\20\10 mg Per Day
Week 13-17 Clomid 100\50\50\50\25 mg Per Day
(Morning)
Week 15-18 Albuterol 8\16\16\8 mg Per Day
(Morning - Evening)
Week 15-18 Ketotifen 1 mg Per Day
(Evening)
I have all this stuff on the way but am open to tweaks additions or leaving anything our that is going to cause a real problem.
Why the PEGylated MGF and not plain MGF? I’ve heard the PEG-MGF is not worthwhile unless you are already running MGF post w/o. Can’t see anything wrong with the rest though. Sounds well planned overall, GL.
Test one week longer at beginning or end? What’s the reason behind this?
I haven’t heard that the supplier I have only had the PEG MGF is why I picked it the pins are post workout though, I just got that PEG lasts a bit longer in your body other than that I thought they were the same, is this not the case?
I have never used the PEG MGF, only MGF (briefly). This is based on what people have said suggesting that the longer duration of action is not as useful as once believed. Still, I can’t see any theoretical problems with the PEGylation… If it’s easier to get then just try it. Could be great, you never know. It’s often more expensive, so not worth it most of the time; that’s the main reason.
Test can be run for another week or so at the end, to avoid potential recovery problems from tren.
@DD yep they don’t sell the mgf so couldn’t compare cost but the PEG MGF is definitely expensive, its not too bad as I am doing it with AAS and so only twice per week but if I was doing the recommended twice per day with peptides alone that would be a very expensive 10 week cycle.
@ BUDs Do you think keeping everything else the same and switching Tren to this would be better?
Hey man I can comment on some of this but, I have zero experience with peptides so can’t really help there.
As for the Test dose but if possible at all I would push the Test out 1-2 weeks. Keep Tren length the same at 10 weeks. This gives a extra week or two quarentee the Tren is out of your system before your Test crashes. If the Test falls before the Tren you can experience some shitty sides. I would also recommend pinning the Tren @150-175 every 3rd day. Also if possible may want to consider Ace since your worried about sides. With Ace your sides will pass in a few days if you have to get off it but, with Enth your going to have to ride it out 2-3 weeks.
Everything else PCT wise looks great and you should see some big gains.
Cheers Reed I have been following a lot of your threads so means a lot you taking the time to take a look, the peptides are just little extras anyway the majority of gains are going to come from the test and tren I imagine.
Unfortunately the gear is on the way and I have what I have which is;
4 x 5ml 1250mg Test E
4 x 5ml 500mg Tren E
I have opted for twice per week so pin every 3.5 days as that fits into my life realistically Sunday mornings and Wednesday evenings both post workout.
Test I am using all of it so cant really push it out further best solution I can think of to up dosage of Tren and skip last two weeks is to do;
Week 3-8 (12 doses) Trenbolone Enanthate 150mg Twice Weekly ??
and then I guess I adjust the caber to;
Week 3-10 (16 doses) Cabergoline 0.5mg Twice Weekly ??
and keep the rest as is do you think that would work well? Or I could do…
I would go with the first option but consider this for just a second. It takes a little more time and planning but the doses you have up top are about perfect so consider this. Pin the Test every 4 days and pin the Tren every 3 days. This will have you running your same number of doses but, you will run out of Tren about 10 days before the test and then boom your golden.
I see what you are saying but I just couldn’t guarantee to be around for those pins every week for 3 months, plus this is my first time pinning so want to keep it to twice per week. Also all the substances are going in 1 x 3ml pin each time so it is literally two pins per week.
Thanks for all you help, I will go with option 1 as you say give me a chance to feel the test before introducing the tren at least then I know if its that making me feel crap, 2 x 150 per week should be mild though shouldn’t it?
With the caber should I continue for 2 weeks post last tren pin or 2 weeks post it being out of system?
Yeah 300mg a week should be pretty manageable but it does hit hard.
I honestly can’t help you there I do not run a AI, SERMS, Or anything for Prolactin. I just have never needed it my body responds great to these drugs when it comes to things these drugs would help so I have alot on hand but I have never had to use it so I can’t speak from experience. But logic would tell me to run it til 2 weeks so that the tren is out completely so you won’t have issues with sides caber helps.
do you use any sleep aids or supplements to help with tren sides then? I am a little worried if I’m honest that you say it hits hard but are permanently on higher doses than I would even consider on test and EQ etc. haha
I know with test that continue the AI until two weeks after its out of system to estrogen rebound effect, is the prolactin just raised by tren so that there wouldn’t be this rebound?
[quote]Sam_Boy wrote:
ok cool melatonin is that stuff people pin to get tanned isn’t it? [/quote]
ummmm… If it is that a totally unheard of thing for me hahaha. Here in the states its just cheap sleep aid can pick it up at any pharmacy for under $10 here
oright I might be confusing it with something with similar name, cheers for your help anyway mate I’ll start a thread when I start my cycle, I have a holiday over new years so plan is to start 5th of Jan.
Pinning more frequently helps
Avoid carbs before bed, I seem to always get night sweats if I eat carbs before bed
Some have less sides with high tren low test
Some people can’t handle tren just one of those things. For me the worst thing is the night sweats which I’m lucky that I only get from time to time. My body handles tren pretty well. Getting sleep aids can help if you find it hard to sleep. Melatonin works along with other OTC sleep aids and you can even try tea as well.
I would run caber .5 mg 2x a week and continue 2 weeks after stopping the tren, but caber is no walk in the park either for some. Tren definitely has a love hate relationship but nothing beats it IMO.
Cheers and hope so mate. Ye it is me and a mate doing the same cycle so gonna do a post about it after with pictures and stats for both of us.
@ BUD
Thanks mate I have read about the low test high Tren thing but I want the test really so gonna just drop the Tren if it reacts real bad with me and ride out the sides. I’ll be pinning twice per week so will be taking the 0.5 caber straight after each pin so hopefully that will help. So two weeks after last pin with tren stop the caber ye no chance of rebound like e then?
I’m currently looking at sleep aids and the no carb before bed thing is good tip which I’ll follow.
Everyone seems to agree it is the best so thought id give it a shot and see how my body reacts I don’t think the time or dose I’m on is enough to do any permanent damage and you never know I might react ok to it too fingers crossed.