College Football Shake up

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I was just watching ESPN and they were announcing that Nebraska (and possibly Missouri) is going to join the Big 10.

They also said, that according to an inside source, the Texas coaching staff and AD all got together to discuss how the big 12 was officially dead. The word is that Texas, Texas Tech, Texas AM, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado are all going to join the Pac 10 conference in 2012 to form the first “super conference.”

WOW! As a college football fan this is phenomenal. This move will cause a huge shake up in college football and cause other conferences to try to do the same… Maybe the talk of “four super conferences” would come true and would give us the closest thing we could hope for as far as a playoff goes. Having all these power school in the same conferences, thus forcing them to play each other, would be amazing. I just hope schools like Boise Stat and Utah get into one of these conferences some how.

anyone else see this or have their take on it?

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I would rather take Boise State and Utah and let the shitty northern schools leave than join the Pac 10. The travel is really going to suck.

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this has been floating around for a while. the SEC has been fairly quiet about it but has talked to a few Big 12 programs. it seems that Texas and Oklahoma don’t want any part of the SEC. the latest rumors are that the SEC will poach the ACC and invite Clemson, Florida St, and Miami to join. as to the 4th team I’ve read Georgia Tech, TCU, Oklahoma St, or North Carolina. the ACC will get teams from the Big East and East Carolina from Conference USA. The WAC and Mountain West will combine. Notre Dame will be courted by the Big 10(16?) and they will pick up teams from the Big 12. if all this comes to pass they still won’t have a damn playoff!!!

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[quote]silverblood wrote:
this has been floating around for a while. the SEC has been fairly quiet about it but has talked to a few Big 12 programs. it seems that Texas and Oklahoma don’t want any part of the SEC. the latest rumors are that the SEC will poach the ACC and invite Clemson, Florida St, and Miami to join. as to the 4th team I’ve read Georgia Tech, TCU, Oklahoma St, or North Carolina. the ACC will get teams from the Big East and East Carolina from Conference USA. The WAC and Mountain West will combine. Notre Dame will be courted by the Big 10(16?) and they will pick up teams from the Big 12. if all this comes to pass they still won’t have a damn playoff!!![/quote]

Yeah they were reporting “from inside sources” that the Pac 10 merger will probably be announced Friday. It would be pretty nice if all the good teams merged into 4 power conferences. It should be easier to pick the top two schools with the 4 teams win those conferences.

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[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
I would rather take Boise State and Utah and let the shitty northern schools leave than join the Pac 10. The travel is really going to suck.[/quote]

I think they’re going to do a Pac 10 East and a Pac 10 West (like the big 12 does with North and South) They would probably take the 6 teams they’re adding and put Arizona and Arizona State with them to form the “East” and then leave the rest of the current Pac 10 teams in the West… it’d be two 8 team mini conferences. Not much change at all for the Texas/Oklahoma schools except 1 trip to AZ a year.

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From what I’ve been hearing, the Big 10 initiated all of this by courting Nebraska and Mizzou which will start a chain reaction that dismantles the Big 12. That’s great news for the Pac who will be ridiculous, but I sincerely hope the Big 10 doesn’t decide to take the scraps of the Big 12. Nebraska I like. Mizzou I could really take or leave. The rest are pretty bad at least as far as football goes–except maybe Kansas St who I’ve always kinda liked despite them sucking quite a bit.

As far as Notre Dame goes, I’m pretty sure they’ll remain independent. I think it would be epic for them to join the Big 10 even though they suck. They just won’t do it until some of the other conferences start making moves. I haven’t heard anything for the ACC, SEC, or Big East.

It would be extremely cool for the Big 10 if they tried to go after some Big East schools like Pitt and WVU.

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I can’t wait until the most overrated conference in the nation (B12) gets disbanded, that’s my take.

How it happens and shakes down is of no concern to me… John Brantley is going to lead a disrespected UF team to a Natty Championship this year anyway.

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^^They’ve gotta get past Alabama first… that didnt work out too well last year with “Superman” behind center… They would have lost to Bama the year before too if the Tide didnt choke in the 4th quarter of the SEC title game.

I also wouldnt say that they are disrespected… I think they’re definitely being overlooked but when you have that much talent go to the NFL and you lose your “all college world team” QB thats gonna happen dont ya think?

I do agree with the Big 12 being overrated. Texas and OU are the only legit teams in that conference.

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[quote]gregron wrote:
^^They’ve gotta get past Alabama first… that didnt work out too well last year with “Superman” behind center… They would have lost to Bama the year before too if the Tide didnt choke in the 4th quarter of the SEC title game.[/quote]

Eh… I don’t know about that. Bama just wasn’t as polished in full capacity as UF was the year before. In all honesty, I still maintain they were the better team last year, they just chose the most important game of the year to have a bad game, lol.

[quote]I do agree with the Big 12 being overrated. Texas and OU are the only legit teams in that conference.

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And yeah, Texas specifically is still a powerhouse every year. OU usually is, but they can’t win a bowl game in the last 8 years to save their lives, which will resonate through the national media for sure.

What pisses me off is years when like Texas Tech gets all sorts of national hooplah, when it’s a pure-gimmick that any out-of-conference team would have picked up on fairly easily.

Then again, I’m bias because I’m not a big fan of the whole “Big offense/Passable defense” thing B12 has going.

And thank God Rainjack isn’t here, I’d never hear the end of it.

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hahahahah yeah for sure. But I feel that teams like Texas Tech, OK state (and even Oklahoma) wouldn’t fare too well playing against the Pac 10 teams that actually play D and arent just Run and Gun teams like most of the Big 12 schools.

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some of the possible MAJOR conference line ups I’ve seen.
the SEC would still be a football beast and inter-conference play would be murder. the baseball in the SEC would be outrageous.
the ACC would still be a basketball powerhouse and serious contender in football.
Nebraska could change the Big 10 football landscape.
the Big 12 would still have teams that would be serious threats in both football and basketball.
they show that the Pac 10 has USC in the north away from Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma State. I think they should keep USC in the south and move Oklahoma State or Oklahoma to the north.
wonder how the Rose Bowl will feel with a Texas or Oklahoma vs a Nebraska or Rutgers or Missouri?
the Cotton Bowl is still a possibility to be added to the BCS. 5 BCS bowls and a championship game = a lot of $$$$$$

ACC-Atlantic: Boston College, Cincinnati, East Carolina, Maryland, Pitt, Louisville, Syracuse, West Virginia
Coastal: Duke, North Carolina, NC State, South Florida, UCF, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

Big 10-East: Connecticut, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers
West: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Wisconsin

Big 12-North: Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Nevada, UNLV
South: Baylor, BYU, Houston, San Diego State, SMU, Southern Miss, TCU, Utah

Pac 10- North: California, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, USC, Washington, Washington State
South: Arizona, Arizona State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, UCLA

SEC-East: Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida State, LSU, Miami, Mississippi, Mississippi State

even heard a few people say that Alabama, Nebraska, Penn State, Florida, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Virginia Tech and some others form their own super conferance.

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[quote]silverblood wrote:
some of the possible MAJOR conference line ups I’ve seen.
the SEC would still be a football beast and inter-conference play would be murder. the baseball in the SEC would be outrageous.
the ACC would still be a basketball powerhouse and serious contender in football.
Nebraska could change the Big 10 football landscape.
the Big 12 would still have teams that would be serious threats in both football and basketball.
they show that the Pac 10 has USC in the north away from Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma State. I think they should keep USC in the south and move Oklahoma State or Oklahoma to the north.
wonder how the Rose Bowl will feel with a Texas or Oklahoma vs a Nebraska or Rutgers or Missouri?
the Cotton Bowl is still a possibility to be added to the BCS. 5 BCS bowls and a championship game = a lot of $$$$$$

ACC-Atlantic: Boston College, Cincinnati, East Carolina, Maryland, Pitt, Louisville, Syracuse, West Virginia
Coastal: Duke, North Carolina, NC State, South Florida, UCF, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

Big 10-East: Connecticut, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers
West: Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Wisconsin

Big 12-North: Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Nevada, UNLV
South: Baylor, BYU, Houston, San Diego State, SMU, Southern Miss, TCU, Utah

Pac 10- North: California, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, USC, Washington, Washington State
South: Arizona, Arizona State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, UCLA

SEC-East: Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida State, LSU, Miami, Mississippi, Mississippi State

even heard a few people say that Alabama, Nebraska, Penn State, Florida, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Virginia Tech and some others form their own super conferance.

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I bet they go East/West route for the Pac10(possibly soon to be Pac16) instead of North/South… that would make way more sense as it would cut down on a lot of long travel

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they just put up an article on ESPN about the Pac10’s expansion with those five Big12 teams + Colorado. Should be officially announced within a week or so. This is totally going to change the landscape of college football.

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As long as the Big East doesn’t dissolve or University of Louisville finds a BCS conference to get into…I don’t care either way what happens.

Kragthorpe ruined our football team, so hopefully Charlie Strong brings it back in a year or two. We are still the #1 revenue team in college basketball and AD Tom Jurich has got most of the other sports positioned very well.

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Plenty of carzy talk in this thread.

Missouri will not be invited to the Big Ten. They are stuck on the outside looking in as is Kansas, KSU, Iowa State, Bsylor.

Colorado is trying to lock up a spot in the Pac 10 so that Texas doesn’t pull Baylor in there.

As said the 6 teams that probably go to the Pac 10 will play ASU and AZ in the south division so that means maybe 1- 3 trips to the ‘west coast’.

Many of the teams in the Big 12 recent years have been run and gun becasue that is what their skill set determined. You will see Texas, OU, OK ST, and even Tech coming out in way differnet packages starting this year. Texas will feature a FB and TE sometime 2.

I am all for the shake up as we will see tons of great games and increase parity not to mention completey face fuck recruiting.

Don’t be surpirsed to see the Big East try to get teams from the ACC before the SEC does. Although I think Miami and FL will be stalked by the SEC. KU and KSU are connected at the hip right now; were one go both go. SEC may want KU basketball enough to take both…who knows.

Last thing, there are still talks that Texas could go Big Ten (doubtful!!) or TX AM and TX go to SEC together or AM by themselves.

Lastly I BIG 12 teams can go punch for punch with the likes of Cal, Oregon, USC, etc… don’t sleep on the Sooners, Okies, Raiders, UT. Aggies and buffuloes will scrap.

Hope you stuck arounf to read it all.

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I read all of this thread and I listen to the radio and check on a couple of websites.

What I really need to know is if I should have a hard on for this or not… My cock is confused.

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[quote]SSC wrote:
And yeah, Texas specifically is still a powerhouse every year. OU usually is, but they can’t win a bowl game in the last 8 years to save their lives, which will resonate through the national media for sure.
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I’ll play the part of Rainjack and call you on your nonsense. I know you are big Florida fan, but seriously, settle down. They aren’t end all be all of college football. And believe it or not, college football has been played in North America before Tebow was ever born.

Since 2000, OU and Texas have two of the better win-loss records in college football. Better than Florida, I might add. And you also misspoke. OU has struggled to win BCS Bowl games in recent years. You won’t find a Sooner fan more critical of them than myself, but they did win the Holiday Bowl (2005) and some toilet/Sun Bowl last year.

The Big 12 is no more overrated or underrated than any other conference. The Big 12 is almost always represented in the top 10 rankings by Texas and/or Oklahoma. You go back to the late 90s and early 2000s, Kansas State and Nebraska where regularly in the top 10. Hell, K-State used to play USC in their non conference and beat them. Some years the conference is top heavy (OU and Texas) and other years, like 2007, the Big 12 had OU, Mizzou, Kansas, and Texas all in the top 20 for most of the season with OU, Kansas, and Mizzou in the top 10.

The SEC, especially in the last 7 years or so has been, from top to bottom, the best conference. But I can think of some time periods in recent years where the SEC was not the top conference (the 1980s and 1990s).

Seriously man, how can a Florida fan be pissed about the National media? They worshipped Saint Tebow since the day he stepped on campus in Gainesville. Give me a break.

You are biased and ill informed. OU and Texas regularly put good to great defenses out on the field every season. This past season both programs had really good defenses. It wasn’t that long ago that Nebraska had the Black Shirts cutting peoples’s heads off. Kansas State, up until Coach Snyder left (2004?), had some good defenses as well.

I didn’t intend to come off as a douche in this thread, so I apologize if I did.

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[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
I read all of this thread and I listen to the radio and check on a couple of websites.

What I really need to know is if I should have a hard on for this or not… My cock is confused.[/quote]

I know I have woodrow thinking about all of the possibilities of a Pac-16. OU, Texas, USC and Oregon all in the same conference? A conference championship involving these teams?

I’m so aroused, I think I’m going to have a fap session!

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It just seems to me all of this is about getting more money, better tv contracts, and one-up-man-ship.

No one seems that concerned with what it will do to the actual playing of football. No one seems to have any great ideas about how you could even pull off a 16 team conference schedule. What is the point of a conference where some teams play once every 4 years and all your teams have 2 extra games to win to stay in bowl hunts?

Why not invite every NCAA 1-a team to your conference and get the biggest tv contract possible?

I personally think a 12 team conference is getting on the “too big” side.

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[quote]silverblood wrote:
this has been floating around for a while. the SEC has been fairly quiet about it but has talked to a few Big 12 programs. it seems that Texas and Oklahoma don’t want any part of the SEC. [/quote]

I don’t think it had much to do with Texas and OU not wanting to be in the SEC. Everything I have heard/read has said that the SEC wanted to expand east, by inviting programs like Miami.

Initially, DeLoss Dodds and Joe Castiglione at least said publicly that they wanted to keep the Big 12 together, but it all depended on Tom Osborne and Nebraska.