FSU played an easier schedule than OSU, but the “style” points say they are better because they dominated those shit teams.
fair enough…
What do the style points say about an auburn team who needed 2 of the luckiest plays in college football history to beat bama and georgia? Of course ignoring the fact they were beat by LSU…
shut up auburn ppl
Also, the “osu got beat in 2 previous nc games so theyll get beat again” people. You’re retarded comparing these teams.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
FSU played an easier schedule than OSU, but the “style” points say they are better because they dominated those shit teams.
fair enough…
What do the style points say about an auburn team who needed 2 of the luckiest plays in college football history to beat bama and georgia? Of course ignoring the fact they were beat by LSU…
shut up auburn ppl
Also, the “osu got beat in 2 previous nc games so theyll get beat again” people. You’re retarded comparing these teams. [/quote]
This team wouldn’t beat those previous teams. They have a better running game and QB (barely) but the recievers and the defense are not nearly as good. Those old teams would stop this teams offense far more and this team wouldn’t slow down those NC teams.
SEC nuthuggers out in full force.
Two MEDIOCRE big 12 schools have been giving it to the SEC for the past two seasons. SEC as a whole is overrated because of the ESPN hype machine who also happens to have the TV rights ($$$$$$$$$) to their games.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
FSU played an easier schedule than OSU, but the “style” points say they are better because they dominated those shit teams.
fair enough…
What do the style points say about an auburn team who needed 2 of the luckiest plays in college football history to beat bama and georgia? Of course ignoring the fact they were beat by LSU…
shut up auburn ppl
Also, the “osu got beat in 2 previous nc games so theyll get beat again” people. You’re retarded comparing these teams. [/quote]
This team wouldn’t beat those previous teams. They have a better running game and QB (barely) but the recievers and the defense are not nearly as good. Those old teams would stop this teams offense far more and this team wouldn’t slow down those NC teams.[/quote]
This discussion has officially gotten hilarious. We’re really determined to discredit this OSU team aren’t we?
2002.0 I believe.
[quote]gregron wrote:
Two MEDIOCRE big 12 schools have been giving it to the SEC for the past two seasons. SEC as a whole is overrated because of the ESPN hype machine who also happens to have the TV rights ($$$$$$$$$) to their games.[/quote]
What a ridiculous statement. I’d love to hear how the SEC is overrated.
I don’t mind giving other teams their due and like to think that I’m not conference blind, but seriously? Is it the titles? The money? The facilities? The pro prospects?..
To the topic, couple of hurdles left. Can’t jump the gun just yet. Gotta keep Famous Jameis out of jail and gotta get by Sparty.
And I think Mizz beats Auburn. I would think they have to jump Bammer in that case. I’ve seen that some don’t believe that. That would be some Tricky Nicky shit there. Of course he has gotten the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years.
food for thought…
[quote]mahwah wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Two MEDIOCRE big 12 schools have been giving it to the SEC for the past two seasons. SEC as a whole is overrated because of the ESPN hype machine who also happens to have the TV rights ($$$$$$$$$) to their games.[/quote]
What a ridiculous statement. I’d love to hear how the SEC is overrated.
I don’t mind giving other teams their due and like to think that I’m not conference blind, but seriously? Is it the titles? The money? The facilities? The pro prospects?..
To the topic, couple of hurdles left. Can’t jump the gun just yet. Gotta keep Famous Jameis out of jail and gotta get by Sparty.
And I think Mizz beats Auburn. I would think they have to jump Bammer in that case. I’ve seen that some don’t believe that. That would be some Tricky Nicky shit there. Of course he has gotten the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years.[/quote]
Food for thought regarding the SEC
[quote]Headache wrote:
[quote]mahwah wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Two MEDIOCRE big 12 schools have been giving it to the SEC for the past two seasons. SEC as a whole is overrated because of the ESPN hype machine who also happens to have the TV rights ($$$$$$$$$) to their games.[/quote]
What a ridiculous statement. I’d love to hear how the SEC is overrated.
I don’t mind giving other teams their due and like to think that I’m not conference blind, but seriously? Is it the titles? The money? The facilities? The pro prospects?..
To the topic, couple of hurdles left. Can’t jump the gun just yet. Gotta keep Famous Jameis out of jail and gotta get by Sparty.
And I think Mizz beats Auburn. I would think they have to jump Bammer in that case. I’ve seen that some don’t believe that. That would be some Tricky Nicky shit there. Of course he has gotten the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years.[/quote]
Food for thought regarding the SEC
[/quote]
Maybe that tinfoil hat you’re wearing is what’s causing the headache.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Headache wrote:
[quote]mahwah wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Two MEDIOCRE big 12 schools have been giving it to the SEC for the past two seasons. SEC as a whole is overrated because of the ESPN hype machine who also happens to have the TV rights ($$$$$$$$$) to their games.[/quote]
What a ridiculous statement. I’d love to hear how the SEC is overrated.
I don’t mind giving other teams their due and like to think that I’m not conference blind, but seriously? Is it the titles? The money? The facilities? The pro prospects?..
To the topic, couple of hurdles left. Can’t jump the gun just yet. Gotta keep Famous Jameis out of jail and gotta get by Sparty.
And I think Mizz beats Auburn. I would think they have to jump Bammer in that case. I’ve seen that some don’t believe that. That would be some Tricky Nicky shit there. Of course he has gotten the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years.[/quote]
Food for thought regarding the SEC
[/quote]
Maybe that tinfoil hat you’re wearing is what’s causing the headache.[/quote]
I didn’t read that whole article but the opening paragraph pretty much sums it up.
The SEC has a losing record against the Pac12 and a few other conferences with marginal wining records against the other major conferences since the inception of the BCS.
The SEC has had the best team in the country for the past 6 years but that doesn’t mean the conference is awesome. The SEC has been riding the coattails of Bama, LSU and Florida for the past decade.
I know this won’t be looked at logically because college football fans are the most irrational fans in all or sports and SEC fans are the worst of the bunch.
Just look at A&M and Mizz. Two run of the mill middle of the pack Big 12 schools who in their first two seasons have light the SEC up. If the SEC was so dominant than middle of the pack schools from other conferences should be scrapping the bottom of the SEC barrel. Not quite how it went down lol
I also didn’t read that article. The author does not lend credibility when he is obviously so biased against the south.
So here, lets use recent stats, from bcs era (does not include this year)…
http://www.mrsec.com/2013/01/conference-bowl-records-this-year-and-last-15-years/
And, A&M and Mizzou are no longer big 12. They are now SEC and are benefitting from recruiting and money. Mizzou has pro prospects all over the field, in case you haven’t seen them play. They also did not win a conference game their first year in SEC play, since you are trying to create that argument. Aggie’s have finished below the good teams and above the bad teams both years.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Headache wrote:
[quote]mahwah wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Two MEDIOCRE big 12 schools have been giving it to the SEC for the past two seasons. SEC as a whole is overrated because of the ESPN hype machine who also happens to have the TV rights ($$$$$$$$$) to their games.[/quote]
What a ridiculous statement. I’d love to hear how the SEC is overrated.
I don’t mind giving other teams their due and like to think that I’m not conference blind, but seriously? Is it the titles? The money? The facilities? The pro prospects?..
To the topic, couple of hurdles left. Can’t jump the gun just yet. Gotta keep Famous Jameis out of jail and gotta get by Sparty.
And I think Mizz beats Auburn. I would think they have to jump Bammer in that case. I’ve seen that some don’t believe that. That would be some Tricky Nicky shit there. Of course he has gotten the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years.[/quote]
Food for thought regarding the SEC
[/quote]
Maybe that tinfoil hat you’re wearing is what’s causing the headache.[/quote]
I didn’t read that whole article but the opening paragraph pretty much sums it up.
The SEC has a losing record against the Pac12 and a few other conferences with marginal wining records against the other major conferences since the inception of the BCS.
The SEC has had the best team in the country for the past 6 years but that doesn’t mean the conference is awesome. The SEC has been riding the coattails of Bama, LSU and Florida for the past decade.
I know this won’t be looked at logically because college football fans are the most irrational fans in all or sports and SEC fans are the worst of the bunch.
Just look at A&M and Mizz. Two run of the mill middle of the pack Big 12 schools who in their first two seasons have light the SEC up. If the SEC was so dominant than middle of the pack schools from other conferences should be scrapping the bottom of the SEC barrel. Not quite how it went down lol[/quote]
What’s the point? That other conferences’ shitty teams beat the SEC’s shitty teams? Still have more dominance than anywhere else.
#secdickridingforlife
[quote]mahwah wrote:
I also didn’t read that article. The author does not lend credibility when he is obviously so biased against the south.
So here, lets use recent stats, from bcs era (does not include this year)…
http://www.mrsec.com/2013/01/conference-bowl-records-this-year-and-last-15-years/
And, A&M and Mizzou are no longer big 12. They are now SEC and are benefitting from recruiting and money.
[/quote]
You think that shit happens in less than a season? Every impact player they have on that team is in at least their sophomore season. In case you are unaware, that means that they all almost certainly signed commitments to their schools well before the point where A&M was cleared to leave the Big-12 for the SEC(late 2011).
Also the money helps build weight rooms and stadiums and practice fields, stuff that takes time. Them being in on that SEC money has literally not effected their program yet.
Also, lol at finishing 6-2 in the SEC last year as ‘below the good but above the bad.’ No, that makes them one of the good, and the only one that beat the best.
I’m sure you knew all of this though, because SEC fans know their shit when it comes to football.
I’m gonna overlook your valid points because it damages my completely unbiased arguments…
But I stand by “below the good but above the bad”. 6-2 was good for 3rd in the west. Below LSU and above Miss St. I do think they were a good team, but definitely at the cutoff in the West.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Headache wrote:
[quote]mahwah wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Two MEDIOCRE big 12 schools have been giving it to the SEC for the past two seasons. SEC as a whole is overrated because of the ESPN hype machine who also happens to have the TV rights ($$$$$$$$$) to their games.[/quote]
What a ridiculous statement. I’d love to hear how the SEC is overrated.
I don’t mind giving other teams their due and like to think that I’m not conference blind, but seriously? Is it the titles? The money? The facilities? The pro prospects?..
To the topic, couple of hurdles left. Can’t jump the gun just yet. Gotta keep Famous Jameis out of jail and gotta get by Sparty.
And I think Mizz beats Auburn. I would think they have to jump Bammer in that case. I’ve seen that some don’t believe that. That would be some Tricky Nicky shit there. Of course he has gotten the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years.[/quote]
Food for thought regarding the SEC
[/quote]
Maybe that tinfoil hat you’re wearing is what’s causing the headache.[/quote]
I didn’t read that whole article but the opening paragraph pretty much sums it up.
The SEC has a losing record against the Pac12 and a few other conferences with marginal wining records against the other major conferences since the inception of the BCS.
The SEC has had the best team in the country for the past 6 years but that doesn’t mean the conference is awesome. The SEC has been riding the coattails of Bama, LSU and Florida for the past decade.
I know this won’t be looked at logically because college football fans are the most irrational fans in all or sports and SEC fans are the worst of the bunch.
Just look at A&M and Mizz. Two run of the mill middle of the pack Big 12 schools who in their first two seasons have light the SEC up. If the SEC was so dominant than middle of the pack schools from other conferences should be scrapping the bottom of the SEC barrel. Not quite how it went down lol[/quote]
What’s the point? That other conferences’ shitty teams beat the SEC’s shitty teams? Still have more dominance than anywhere else.
#secdickridingforlife[/quote]
Come on buddy. Don’t be so sensitive. If the SEC was far and away “the best conference” (like everyone seems to say) they would have a dominant record against the other conferences… Top to bottom.
The fact is it’s just not there. Has the best team in the SEC proven over the better part of the last decade to be better than the top team in 1 of the other conferences? Sure, but that doesn’t mean the conference is way better. It just means that conference had the 1 single best team. All the SEC middle/bottom feeders just ride the top dogs coattails like I as saying.
Besides, the SEC is the only place you see people repping their conferences as much if not more than they rep their own teams. It’s so weird. I guess if your team sucks you can at least say how great the SEC is lololol
[quote]gregron wrote:
SEC as a whole is overrated because of the ESPN hype machine who also happens to have the TV rights ($$$$$$$$$) to their games.[/quote]
It’s funny how people dont realize this, but yet they dont believe anything on foxnews because it’s a right bias…
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Headache wrote:
[quote]mahwah wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Two MEDIOCRE big 12 schools have been giving it to the SEC for the past two seasons. SEC as a whole is overrated because of the ESPN hype machine who also happens to have the TV rights ($$$$$$$$$) to their games.[/quote]
What a ridiculous statement. I’d love to hear how the SEC is overrated.
I don’t mind giving other teams their due and like to think that I’m not conference blind, but seriously? Is it the titles? The money? The facilities? The pro prospects?..
To the topic, couple of hurdles left. Can’t jump the gun just yet. Gotta keep Famous Jameis out of jail and gotta get by Sparty.
And I think Mizz beats Auburn. I would think they have to jump Bammer in that case. I’ve seen that some don’t believe that. That would be some Tricky Nicky shit there. Of course he has gotten the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years.[/quote]
Food for thought regarding the SEC
[/quote]
Maybe that tinfoil hat you’re wearing is what’s causing the headache.[/quote]
I didn’t read that whole article but the opening paragraph pretty much sums it up.
The SEC has a losing record against the Pac12 and a few other conferences with marginal wining records against the other major conferences since the inception of the BCS.
The SEC has had the best team in the country for the past 6 years but that doesn’t mean the conference is awesome. The SEC has been riding the coattails of Bama, LSU and Florida for the past decade.
I know this won’t be looked at logically because college football fans are the most irrational fans in all or sports and SEC fans are the worst of the bunch.
Just look at A&M and Mizz. Two run of the mill middle of the pack Big 12 schools who in their first two seasons have light the SEC up. If the SEC was so dominant than middle of the pack schools from other conferences should be scrapping the bottom of the SEC barrel. Not quite how it went down lol[/quote]
What’s the point? That other conferences’ shitty teams beat the SEC’s shitty teams? Still have more dominance than anywhere else.
#secdickridingforlife[/quote]
Come on buddy. Don’t be so sensitive. If the SEC was far and away “the best conference” (like everyone seems to say) they would have a dominant record against the other conferences… Top to bottom.
The fact is it’s just not there. Has the best team in the SEC proven over the better part of the last decade to be better than the top team in 1 of the other conferences? Sure, but that doesn’t mean the conference is way better. It just means that conference had the 1 single best team. All the SEC middle/bottom feeders just ride the top dogs coattails like I as saying.
Besides, the SEC is the only place you see people repping their conferences as much if not more than they rep their own teams. It’s so weird. I guess if your team sucks you can at least say how great the SEC is lololol [/quote]
The problem with that conference to conference comparison is it doesn’t exactly matchup people of equivalent standing in the conference. Because we have two teams in the BCS we will get those You end up often with a #1 SEC vs a #1 other. Another BCS game has a #1 other vs #2 SEC. The Cotton Bowl will have a #2 other vs a #3 SEC and then you start ending up with #5 vs #2, and #6 vs #3 matchups. Not exactly an equivalent comparison. If you don’t believe me then just go back over the past 4 to 5 years and look.
The SEC is “overrated” because they have one the last 7 National Championships and have never lost. Most of the teams that won those games had one loss from a team that upset them in the conference. Also those National Championships came from 4 (and 5 since the inception of the BCS) different teams and the SEC has had more different teams win a BCS game than any other conference with 6. That’s half the conference.
[quote]gregron wrote:
All the SEC middle/bottom feeders just ride the top dogs coattails like I as saying.
Besides, the SEC is the only place you see people repping their conferences as much if not more than they rep their own teams. It’s so weird. I guess if your team sucks you can at least say how great the SEC is lololol [/quote]
Stop ruining this for Tennesseans!
You completely missed the point jbpick.
No one is denying that the SEC has had the number 1 team in the country for the last 7 years. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE CONFERENCE IS THE BEST. Did they have the best team? Yes, but that doesn’t mean the conference is so much better than everyone else.
Every conference has good teams and bad teams. As for your 2 vs 4 and 3 vs 6 arguments… That’s just an excuse. If the SEC was so much better then they should still win those games right?
Again, why rep a conference? Support your team, but why beg about how good your conference supposedly is? Doesn’t make sense.
L
My point is that in those seven years, 4 different teams or 33% of the conference (before they went to 14) has won a championship. No other conference even comes close to that many teams even playing in the game. Pac 12 has 2, Big 10 has 1, Big 12 has 2, ACC doesn’t have any recent ones (excluding this year) along with the Big East.
After those 4, you have 4 more teams that have finished ranked in the top 25 at the end of the year in the last 5 years. Then you have Ole Miss, Vandy, Tennessee (who has a BCS title), and Kentucky. I am just saying, that is a pretty solid top to bottom group.
Edit: I will however say that this is a very down year for the SEC. Top to bottom this is the most beatable that they have ever been. There is not a single team that I look at and am overly impressed with. The defenses just lost way to much last year. And to your conference repping, I think routing for a region is a very uniquely Southern idea and the South has a chip on its shoulder because we feel as though everyone else thinks they are better than us.