[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
That said - Clinton, without question, is the quintessential pansy. A manipulator and someone who wants to duck responsibility at every turn, he is the classic sensitive emasculated male who thinks a word like ‘honor’ is situational.[/quote]
Wow. So what is Bush? Uber-pansy? I mean, doesn’t Bush fit that description absolutely and utterly perfectly?
Maybe it’s just a case of Bush having lowered the bar so much that Clinton just seems like a wonder compared to him… I’ve talked to many people who said that seeing Bush in action made them see Clinton in a much, much better light than they did before.
[quote]knewsom wrote:
I don’t give two shits what Clinton did with his dick. That’s his business, not mine, and I do not have the right to critisize his personal life. Neither do any of you fucks. I don’t even care that he lied about it. If the man had an abnormal penis, and people accused him of having one, and he lied about having an abnormal penis, would anyone think less of the man? FUCK no.
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What in the holy fuck are you raving about? No one gives a shit about your micropenis. We’re talking about breaking vows and oaths.
Pussy is not the right word to describe somebody who succumbs to temptation. Pussy is a word to describe somebody who folds under pressure or won’t stand up for what he believes in.[/quote]
What exactly is “succumbing to temptation” if not “folding under pressure”? That is exactly what it is. You just described the same thing.
It is the exact same thing - you have a duty of fidelity, and you flake out on it by folding under the pressure.
It is also a failure to stand up for what you believe in - well, assuming you believe in honor, trust, and respect for your wife and child.
[quote]hspder wrote:
JeffR wrote:
He is heroic!!! I remember him being called for duty and showing up manfully.
You REALLY want to go that route, considering the records of basically everyone left in this administration?
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hspder, I can’t recall exactly what bill did during Vietnam. I thought I remember him being called to active duty and sending a letter refusing to serve. I also remember him being a jet pilot. Oh, wait. No, I don’t.
Anyway, it’s nice to know that bill clinton is so incredibily hard.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
hedo wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
hedo wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
doogie wrote:
I got to listen to Rush Limbaugh today for 2 hours. Point by point by point he destroyed Clinton’s answers. Many of them were outright lies (completely mistating what Clark’s book said). Jesus, Clinton is still a pathological liar.
You get your information from the Vulgar Pig Boy?
God, if Darwin doesn’t take care of you soon, I’ll put you out of your misery myself.
Why are worthless pieces of shit like you allowed to threaten people on the internet?
Stick to the subject troll.
I know you are, but what am I?
Brilliant. One of the most legible things you have said in many months. Keep it up.
Hey, I was just using language you would understand. With you listening to the Vulgar Pig Boy all day. Defending Doogie when he claims to use that as his prime source of information.
And going all poetic on me with [i]"Why are worthless pieces of shit like you allowed to threaten people on the internet?
Stick to the subject troll. [/i]
It’s not brilliant. It’s pretty sad actually. But hey, it’s at YOUR level right?
You’re a tool hedo.[/quote]
Wreckless you are a mindless troll. You haven’t had a relevant comment or thought on this site in years.
You couldn’t reach my level in a million years.
But I’ll ask what possible defense could you offer for threatening someone on an internet board and then attempting to take the moral high ground?
Bush might be the best of them all or the worst of them all - but neither has anything to do with Clinton. What Bush is is completely irrelevant - but thanks for playing.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
If you still need proof he lied about wmd, if you still haven’t figured out that there were no links between Saddam and 9/11, then my friend…
Well, I’m simply lost for words. You’re SO FAR out of reality, you simply can’t be helped anymore.
Please, please, please, bring up the war on terror.
Please.
Pretty please???[/quote]
Oh - I didn’t say I needed any proof. I know you are just parroting the daily kos/ George Soros. Had you any proof other than the propaganda you swallow like your mouth covering a glory hole on a Saturday night - you would use it. You don’t.
But - I asked for the poor, ignorant Dems in DC that are so desparately looking for a way to impeach Bush. Seeing you are void of anything but propaganda does not help out the impeachment procedures.
If youare calling me out of touch with reality all I need to do is consider the source to know that I am not the one in an altered state.
You can accuse Bill of anything, but NOT of being a pansy.
Breaking your marriage vows and humiliating your wife and daughter to get your dick sucked by a FAT chick is the biggest example of being a pussy I can think of.[/quote]
Don’t forget the bravery it takes to use policeman to bring women to your office. Then taking the strong stance of hiding behind your lawyers while lying under oath. It takes a real man to obstruct justice and deny a woman her day in court.
(for all the tools, today’s posts have been pure and utter sarcasm).
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Many of you gents laugh or ridicule Rush, but when he uncovers lie after lie, contradiction after contradiction, you have to put that aside and open your ears.[/quote]
You guys need to learn the difference between facts and carefully constructed fiction.
It’s pretty depressing to watch you guys soak up this dog piss and claim it is wine.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Monday is a half day for me and I listen to Limbaugh (of course) on the drive home. He shredded Clinton thoroughly. He points out so many contradictions in Clinton’s actions and his words today, it appear Clinton is pathological. The constant attempt to shift the blame, for ex, for everything from himself to the CIA and FBI is almost childish. (Bush NEVER blames subordinates, btw, for anything.) [/quote]
nah, bush just FIRES them, and clams up about the whole thing.
either post me a transcript regardig specific points, or don’t say anything at all.
[quote]hspder wrote:
doogie wrote:
Breaking your marriage vows and humiliating your wife and daughter to get your dick sucked by a FAT chick is the biggest example of being a pussy I can think of.
The fact that you, as many conservatives, seem to still be focusing on that just goes to show how much you lack any real arguments.
I know you’re Mr. Saint around here (your posts in the Sex and the Male Animal forum show that well), but you really need to get some perspective. Bush isn’t a saint either, and, honestly, having done coke is far worse, far more damaging and far more telling of his character than what Clinton did, irrespective of when. Stick to things that are really relevant and stop grasping at straws, OK?
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You do realize that sexual harrassment and hints of far worse are out there, don’t you?
Now what’s worse to you? Think about a significant female in your life (even if it’s your mother).
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
What exactly is “succumbing to temptation” if not “folding under pressure”? That is exactly what it is. You just described the same thing.
It is the exact same thing - you have a duty of fidelity, and you flake out on it by folding under the pressure.[/quote]
They are similar, but they are not the same.
If I tell you to cross the street because you are on my sidewide, and you do, then you are a pussy.
However, if you cross the street because there is a pretty girl on the other side, but you shouldn’t go there, then you have red blood in your veins.
To think otherwise is simply buying into the political posturing over the last decade.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Monday is a half day for me and I listen to Limbaugh (of course) on the drive home. He shredded Clinton thoroughly. He points out so many contradictions in Clinton’s actions and his words today, it appear Clinton is pathological.[/quote]
Let’s see if I get this straight?
Limbaugh shredded Clinton thoroughly. And how did Clinton respond?
Anyway, your conclusion is that Limbaugh made Clinton appear pathological?
I rest my case.
Ok, now YOU appear pathological. Bush doesn’t do anything BUT blame the CIA, the FBI for false intelligence (that he Rummy insisted upon).
[quote]hedo wrote:
You also need to cite the actual link you are quoting from or identify the source so it can be verified. [/quote]
I just did! How convenient that you ignored it.
[quote]hedo wrote:
Shouldn’t be too hard for you. Your honesty and credibility is of course suspect hspder character.[/quote]
Oh of course it is. So why don’t you actually buy the book and read it yourself? Saves me a few thousand keystrokes, since you will conveniently ignore everything I write. Or at least the parts you don’t like.
[quote]hedo wrote:
Clarke never changed his story. You must be reading from the “left” side of the book.[/quote]
His quotes from 2002 are in stark contrast to the account in his book. So, clearly, he changed his mind, at least.
[quote]hedo wrote:
Both side should share the blame. 8 yrs of inaction for Clinton. 8 mos. for Bush. Bush reacted forcefully when we were attacked. Clinton did not. Indisputable.[/quote]
There was an event remotely like 9/11 during Clinton? Aw shucks. I must have missed it. Is there a recording somewhere I can watch?
Please. You insult not only my intelligence, but the memories of all who died on 9/11. Especially because if “reacting forcefully” is invading a completely unrelated random country, costing us trillions of dollars and thousands of lives with zero benefit – or, worse, making things WORSE – nobody in their right mind can say that’s a good thing.
[quote]knewsom wrote:
I don’t give two shits what Clinton did with his dick. That’s his business, not mine, and I do not have the right to critisize his personal life. Neither do any of you fucks. I don’t even care that he lied about it. If the man had an abnormal penis, and people accused him of having one, and he lied about having an abnormal penis, would anyone think less of the man? FUCK no.
What I DO give a shit about, and DO have a right to critisize him about is what he did with our COUNTRY. That’s OUR business, and ALL of us fucks have a right, nay, a DUTY to critisize him on how he ran the country.
…except that I don’t really have a lot of criticism on how he ran the country - he did a damned fine job. Budgetary surplus, relative peace and security. I think it’s silly that some are out to make him a scapegoat, Fox news included. I commend Bill for going right into the lion’s den, perfectly prepared to kick ass and take names. Of COURSE this was a a calculated move. A BRILLIANTLY calculated move. He ripped that guy to shreds, and yes, he knew he was going to, because he KNEW he was going to be asked that question. He didn’t blow up at him, he just made himself incredibly clear. Hunting the Hunter is indeed fair game. It was like watching a tabby cat try to ambush a polar bear. Do I feel sorry for the poor widdle kitty? Fuck no. Don’t pounce on a polar bear. …especially if that polar bear knows you’re comin’.
Do I think this was shitty on Clinton’s behalf? Nope. I respect brilliance.[/quote]
That pretty much sums up exactly how I feel about it. The man did a phenomenal job in that interview. It is funny that people will now even try to find fault in the fact that he forcefully made his point…while trying to call the man a pussy. It is like, no matter what, they will pick apart SOMETHING even if it means bringing up Monica Lewinsky AGAIN because they ran out of shit to throw stones at.
[quote]doogie wrote:
knewsom wrote:
I don’t give two shits what Clinton did with his dick. That’s his business, not mine, and I do not have the right to critisize his personal life. Neither do any of you fucks. I don’t even care that he lied about it. If the man had an abnormal penis, and people accused him of having one, and he lied about having an abnormal penis, would anyone think less of the man? FUCK no.
What in the holy fuck are you raving about? No one gives a shit about your micropenis. We’re talking about breaking vows and oaths.
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…do you mean to tell me that you’ve NEVER BROKEN A PROMISE? And what do you think is the graver offense? Cheating on your wife? Or failing to do your duty as a serviceman and going AWOL?
I maintain that his personal life is his business, and should not be within the realm of discussion here. Going AWOL while in the military, however, shouldn’t be considered “personal business”.
[quote]doogie wrote:
knewsom wrote:
I don’t give two shits what Clinton did with his dick. That’s his business, not mine, and I do not have the right to critisize his personal life. Neither do any of you fucks. I don’t even care that he lied about it. If the man had an abnormal penis, and people accused him of having one, and he lied about having an abnormal penis, would anyone think less of the man? FUCK no.
What in the holy fuck are you raving about? No one gives a shit about your micropenis. We’re talking about breaking vows and oaths.
[/quote]
No, we’re talking about Wallace trying to ambush Clinton, like he was told.
And getting his ass kicked. That’s what we are talking about.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
hspder wrote:
doogie wrote:
Breaking your marriage vows and humiliating your wife and daughter to get your dick sucked by a FAT chick is the biggest example of being a pussy I can think of.
The fact that you, as many conservatives, seem to still be focusing on that just goes to show how much you lack any real arguments.
I know you’re Mr. Saint around here (your posts in the Sex and the Male Animal forum show that well), but you really need to get some perspective. Bush isn’t a saint either, and, honestly, having done coke is far worse, far more damaging and far more telling of his character than what Clinton did, irrespective of when. Stick to things that are really relevant and stop grasping at straws, OK?
You do realize that sexual harrassment and hints of far worse are out there, don’t you?
Now what’s worse to you? Think about a significant female in your life (even if it’s your mother).
JeffR
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I challenge you to think about Arnold Schwarzenegger for a moment, and then make the same statement.
[quote]knewsom wrote:
I don’t give two shits what Clinton did with his dick. That’s his business, not mine, and I do not have the right to critisize his personal life. Neither do any of you fucks. I don’t even care that he lied about it. If the man had an abnormal penis, and people accused him of having one, and he lied about having an abnormal penis, would anyone think less of the man? FUCK no.[/quote]
Hey, knewsom. That myopic view leaves out what many of us REALLY object to.
Essentially clinton thought he was above the law in a sexual harrassment case.
[quote]hspder wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
That said - Clinton, without question, is the quintessential pansy. A manipulator and someone who wants to duck responsibility at every turn, he is the classic sensitive emasculated male who thinks a word like ‘honor’ is situational.
Wow. So what is Bush? Uber-pansy? I mean, doesn’t Bush fit that description absolutely and utterly perfectly?
Maybe it’s just a case of Bush having lowered the bar so much that Clinton just seems like a wonder compared to him… I’ve talked to many people who said that seeing Bush in action made them see Clinton in a much, much better light than they did before.
So thank you GWB for making Clinton look so good![/quote]