Lmao. Seriously though, was Ryan involved in Trump’s campaign?
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How do you figure?
(Not arguing, but I don’t see it that way.)
I mean, I guess. But I thing the dude that’s got millions in undeclared income and worked for the campaign is the bigger story for a reason here.
The whole Papdoc thing actually points to the campaign NOT taking the Russian bait in ways too. He repeatedly ran the offer upwards, and the “upper level” guy, whomever that was, kept pushing him off, and even flat out said DT wasn’t to be involved.
I get you’re hot for this to burn down trump, but I’m not sure this does is all.
How are we skipping Ryan here? Pretty sure he is on team “hatez me some trump” with the rest of you.
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This is true, it works at a subliminal level. If I need carpet the first thing I think of is the people that advertise during Braves games every half inning. Because they are on so much.
But in politics. People, like the likes of those here. Who actually care about it, will not be swayed. We know who we are voting for and why. It’s the mouth-breathing masses that don’t pay any attention until election day are the ones who are swayed and often are the ones who decide presidential elections.
I think you’re reading this wrong. This is the quote: "We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal.” He’s saying “We can’t have Trump directly involved in this because it would look bad”. His second sentence is the damning one IMO. Kind of like Jr’s response to the Russian lawyer: it should have been “What Russian support for my father’s candidacy?” rather than “I love it!”
I get what you’re saying but “because it will look bad” doesn’t mean “because it’s illegal and we’re trying to endeavor the largest conspiracy and theft in the history of the United States here”.
We’ve had people say getting oppo research from a foreign government is A-Okay legally, Clinton’s team and the DNC did that very thing too… So again, I’m saying the statement says “DT isn’t to be involved” clearly, so it doesn’t go back on him, which is what you want.
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Although Reason seems to agree with your take here
I too hate FB…Love Insta Gram… Its just pics of friends family and uber hot chix… Not friends and fam and assorted turds bating you into political or religious nonsense… Give it a shot tech can be your friend
That’s why it matters… Russia creates Far left and far right nonsense idiots spread it to other idiots. Think of it like herpes for your brain… Sure most of have a side we like a political identity issues we care about ect ect…but some people are just dumb AF…Let’s be honest most Americans arent splitting atoms… The right has those Wallmart rebel flag shit stains… the left has occupy wall st style dipshits in drum circles… The only safe zone is the center IMO
Gotta be Ryan, right. That’s okay with me.
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The state can, and likely will get him for tax evasion, but they are very limited in what they can charge outside of that in an international issue.
And I’m sorry but a plea down on tax evasion at the state level, for anything, is horseshit. He shouldn’t get to plea out of that even if he gave up Jesus himself.
The penalties for this activity are pretty steep. You can’t lie to the Revenue Department, and not declare foreign income without getting straight raped in the wallet. And I believe (at least it’s been threatened) there is a zero leniency policy outside of specific amnesty periods. This was all in the FACTA rules etc. (Good luck wading through that, lol.)
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R Lee Ermy for President!
“Sir the North Koreans fired another test missile.”
“Get Kim on the phone.”
“Patching him through sir.”
“WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION MAGGOT?! I WILL RIP OFF YOUR HEAD AND SHIT DOWN YOUR NECK!”
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Supposedly, the charges against Manafort are very shoddily written. Well, that’s the Kremlin’s take according to the always ahem reliable RT.
The blunder did not go unnoticed with the Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, who responded by saying that it makes the whole investigation look “so much like a hoax.” The mistake is “a very important detail, which shows how the document was once again cooked, produced, prepared,” Zakharova said. She added that “when a serious investigation is concerned, such things are ruled out.”
But let’s not forget the big picture in the simplest possible terms.
The individual on the right (Oleg Deripaska) brought Manafort in to help the political fortunes of a key puppet Yanukovich in what was effectively the most important Russian client state. Not only that, but Manafort was also keeping tabs on Yanukovich on Deripaska’s behalf.
Then comes some alleged money laundering for the Russians followed by a “situation” in which Manafort ended up owing Deripaska a substantial amount of money the latter invested in Manafort’s failed investment fund. We are talking over 10 million here.
Since pretty much anyone who ever owed Deripaska money ended up well…very dead, Manafort sensibly disappears from the face of the Earth for a while.
Then, some months later Manafort resurfaces as a candidate for the position of Trump’s campaign manager while Deripaska publicly magnanimously publicly writes off his debt.
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The IRS doesn’t give a shit lol. I mean, just based on the halves of information I’ve read he’s looking at:
- 50% of his foreign assets taken
- Tax evasion
- Filing a false return & failure to file
- willfully failing to file and/or filing a false FBAR
- millions in fines, penalties and interest in addition to 1 above
Even if you assume he can prove he didn’t own any foreign assets, and had no foreign accounts that went unreported… No way he picked up this all as income appropriately.
The link that had his indictment on it won’t load for me, so once I get through it, I may update this post.
Sorry, I was being sarcastic - Putin’s press secretary said the charges were shoddily written…so I guess one has to trust her 
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No, I got what you were saying. I didn’t post that in an attack on you.
But yeah, I got through page 7 of the indictment…
There isn’t a plea bargain in the world going to save this guy. I don’t think the IRS gives a fuck if he takes trump down or not.
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You mentioned pet rocks and don’t understand the significance of fake ads on a platform that reaches more people than every mainstream sport combined. You’re behind the times. Nothing personal lol.
Seems strange you would question the significance of fake fb ads when you admittedly go out of your way to not understand or experience the entire platform. Just my 2 cents.
I’m not necessarily concerned with IF someone can be prosecuted at a state level, I’m curious if it’s ever happened. I can see working with the state to add leverage for the exact reason of circumventing a pardon, but what happens if/when Manafort gets pardoned and calls Mueller’s bluff. With the number of pardon’s past POTUS have handed out, I’d imagine there’d be at least 1 where the state followed up anyway if it was a feasible option.
I thought I heard a pundit earlier remark that there were no specific tax evasion charges in the indictment, which they found strange. Is that what you’re seeing or did I mishear?
Its like watching a live season of The Americans the drama is fantastic… Im ready for season finale…spoiler alert its yellow & wet
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The state can only charge him with so much… And none of it is as drastic as what the feds can. I don’t think the State of NY can press charges on international wire fraud. In fact I don’t think the State can do it if it crosses into another state let alone another country. (I could obviously be wrong here.)
What the state does have him on is tax evasion and fraud. Which I don’t see them giving any leeway in a plea deal, but I’m not an AG for a reason…
Going from memory, I’m 99% sure it says “didn’t report” and “didn’t disclose to his tax preparer” a couple of times.
I believe the IRS criminal division is still Treasury and may have to bring their own charges. Again, not a lawyer, but as a CPA I’ve seen plenty of audits, and people get bagged. And the first 6 pages of that document scream “he’s going to get bagged, and bagged hard”. And that isn’t even taking into account the FACTA violations, which were also mentioned.
I’d have to see what the pundit said, but I don’t think they fully understand what WAS said re: the IRS & FACTA.
Sidebar: complying with FACTA is a massive pain in the ass btw. Foreign reporting is a shit show, and a total and complete specialty on it’s own in both audit and tax. And the IRS is largely saying “fuck you” to the notion of “innocent mistakes”. A 10k penalty notice is the FIRST notice you receive a lot of the time, lol. They are not messing around. BAsed on the willful failure to file the FBAR he can (and will be) fined the larger of 100k or 50% of the highest bank balance in any unreported foreign account. So if he got a wire on a Tuesday for 8m, and wired it out on Wednesday, he’d fined 4m dollars.
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To be clear, the IRS itself doesn’t have the power to prosecute you criminally, but I believe specific tax evasion claims come from different channels than those levied here.
That said, I could be wrong, and they could wrap it in. IMO (CPA for a decade, well over 15k hours working in tax, and studying it) the language in that indictment sure as shit is a pretty specific tax evasion charge.