Clarett's Continued Fall

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Clearly once a thug always a thug.

It pisses me off we bring guys out of the streets and give them free EVERYTHING on my tuition money and they are to ignorant to become somebody. No one else gets a chance like that, everyone else in this world has to work for what they need, but these guys just blow it away.

I know several guys on the Clemson football team who get free clothes, shoes, cars, plasma TV’s ect. from the school. They get to make a “wish list” and as long as they can come up with a reason pertaining to football they get it. Some of the reasons are that they need the plasma TV to watch game videos on, they need a car to get to practice (but do they really need the 50,000 SUV?) and they need clothes to travel in.

Something is wrong with the country when football players make so much more than the President! Let’s see what’s more important guy chasing a ball, guy making policies that effect the entire world…hmmmm clearly its the dumbass running after a ball! I saw dumbass b/c of people like this guy and TO.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Here’s the deal, the way I was raised, I would have more than likely avoided that whole situation. Money is not my driving force in life even though I would like to be “comfortable”.

This guys sounds like someone who had very little guidance growing up. How else do you find yourself in a situation like that? Does this mean he was just blatantly stupid, or does it mean no one ever showed him the ‘right way’ when it counted?[/quote]

Prof. X

It doesn’t take a very smart man to realize that driving around with an AK-47 is NOT the right way. I don’t think it’s asking him too much to respond to the treats in a different way. Everyone in the media gets death threats and you don’t even see TO driving around with a full auto in his car.

A good bit of the NBA grew up in the streets of harder towns that an Ohio city and they don’t make those types of choices, so saying it was lack of guidance is much to forgiving for him.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

He was wearing a bullet proof vest, had some weapons on him, and he had been receiving death threats. Let me ask you, how would you have dealt with this and why you would make those decisions?
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I probably would have locked all my doors and windows, crawled under my bed, curled up into the fetal position and wimpered softly. You know, the way I deal with everything!

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[quote]CrewPierce wrote:

I know several guys on the Clemson football team who get free clothes, shoes, cars, plasma TV’s ect. from the school. They get to make a “wish list” and as long as they can come up with a reason pertaining to football they get it. Some of the reasons are that they need the plasma TV to watch game videos on, they need a car to get to practice (but do they really need the 50,000 SUV?) and they need clothes to travel in.

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I think the NCAA would be very interested in this “wish list” if it actually existed.

NCAA scholarship players are alotted a certain amount of cash per month, due to the fact they are not allowed to have jobs. It usually runs somewhere around $200-300 a month.

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[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Clearly once a thug always a thug.

It pisses me off we bring guys out of the streets and give them free EVERYTHING on my tuition money and they are to ignorant to become somebody. No one else gets a chance like that, everyone else in this world has to work for what they need, but these guys just blow it away.

I know several guys on the Clemson football team who get free clothes, shoes, cars, plasma TV’s ect. from the school. They get to make a “wish list” and as long as they can come up with a reason pertaining to football they get it. Some of the reasons are that they need the plasma TV to watch game videos on, they need a car to get to practice (but do they really need the 50,000 SUV?) and they need clothes to travel in.

Something is wrong with the country when football players make so much more than the President! Let’s see what’s more important guy chasing a ball, guy making policies that effect the entire world…hmmmm clearly its the dumbass running after a ball! I saw dumbass b/c of people like this guy and TO.[/quote]

Football is entertainment, just like the movies and music. Football brings in more money to a school (and schools are run for profit) than anything else. 90,000 people don’t go to chess club matches or swim meets. Because of this, great athletes get special priviledges. I would estimate a significant percentage of college football players wouldn’t be in college at all if they weren’t great athletes. And it’s not a money thing. It’s an education and background thing. I got turned down by Florida St., went to Washington St. and got a BA then went on to get a Masters at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical U. I easily had the grades for FSU, the desire (I wanted to go there like you read about), the test scores, no criminal background, my father is a doctor with more degrees than anyone I know (schools do ask about your family as a possible indicator of academic success). I played 4 years of varsity HS football, played baseball for the Navy in a semi-pro league, played soccer in England, traveled extensively throughout Europe. These are all things asked about on college applications. I thought I was pretty well rounded and ready for FSU. But how many low-life, scum-bag, thug football players who could barely pass high school got full scholarships to FSU that year? It’s ALL about the money. It’s not about what’s more important, it’s about what people are willing to pay to watch.

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[quote]Ryan0660 wrote:
there is something more to this story that we aren’t hearing. i know what he did was absurd but who wears a bullet proof vest and has 4 weapons in a car? something doesn’t seem right.[/quote]

he was found 1 block away from a womans house who was going to testify against him…supposedly he’d recieved death threats also

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:
Clearly once a thug always a thug.

It pisses me off we bring guys out of the streets and give them free EVERYTHING on my tuition money and they are to ignorant to become somebody. No one else gets a chance like that, everyone else in this world has to work for what they need, but these guys just blow it away.

I know several guys on the Clemson football team who get free clothes, shoes, cars, plasma TV’s ect. from the school. They get to make a “wish list” and as long as they can come up with a reason pertaining to football they get it. Some of the reasons are that they need the plasma TV to watch game videos on, they need a car to get to practice (but do they really need the 50,000 SUV?) and they need clothes to travel in.

Something is wrong with the country when football players make so much more than the President! Let’s see what’s more important guy chasing a ball, guy making policies that effect the entire world…hmmmm clearly its the dumbass running after a ball! I saw dumbass b/c of people like this guy and TO.

Football is entertainment, just like the movies and music. Football brings in more money to a school (and schools are run for profit) than anything else. 90,000 people don’t go to chess club matches or swim meets. Because of this, great athletes get special priviledges. I would estimate a significant percentage of college football players wouldn’t be in college at all if they weren’t great athletes. And it’s not a money thing. It’s an education and background thing. I got turned down by Florida St., went to Washington St. and got a BA then went on to get a Masters at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical U. I easily had the grades for FSU, the desire (I wanted to go there like you read about), the test scores, no criminal background, my father is a doctor with more degrees than anyone I know (schools do ask about your family as a possible indicator of academic success). I played 4 years of varsity HS football, played baseball for the Navy in a semi-pro league, played soccer in England, traveled extensively throughout Europe. These are all things asked about on college applications. I thought I was pretty well rounded and ready for FSU. But how many low-life, scum-bag, thug football players who could barely pass high school got full scholarships to FSU that year? It’s ALL about the money. It’s not about what’s more important, it’s about what people are willing to pay to watch.

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I can’t believe you didn’t get into FSU…that school isn’t anything special and obviously you’re very well-rounded.

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[quote]themonkeyking wrote:
I’m not defending his actions, but I’ve got to wonder where he would be today if they had let him go in the draft that first year.[/quote]

I doubt it would be different.

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Part of me says that I shouldn’t feel sorry for him, that he brought it on himself and that he knew what he was doing…but another part of me feels sorry for the guy, who’s obviously been steered down the wrong path the past couple of years since being kicked off the OSU football team. He’s a young kid who dealt with a lot of legal issues in a short amount of time, and then had to deal with death threats and things of that nature, so it’s not surprising that he’s paranoid and worried people are out to get him, because it’s probably true…although they’re likely out to get him more because he owes money or something to that extent as opposed to someone just being mad at him about decisions he made regarding football.

A sad situation…this is something people will be talking about years from now…how one guy went from being discussed as the player to break the NFL draft age barrier to someone who wound up in jail after carrying four loaded weapons in his car and having to detained with Mase before being arrested.

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[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
Part of me says that I shouldn’t feel sorry for him, that he brought it on himself and that he knew what he was doing…but another part of me feels sorry for the guy, who’s obviously been steered down the wrong path the past couple of years since being kicked off the OSU football team. He’s a young kid who dealt with a lot of legal issues in a short amount of time, and then had to deal with death threats and things of that nature, so it’s not surprising that he’s paranoid and worried people are out to get him, because it’s probably true…although they’re likely out to get him more because he owes money or something to that extent as opposed to someone just being mad at him about decisions he made regarding football.

A sad situation…this is something people will be talking about years from now…how one guy went from being discussed as the player to break the NFL draft age barrier to someone who wound up in jail after carrying four loaded weapons in his car and having to detained with Mase before being arrested.[/quote]

I feel the same way. I have no doubt it was way too easy to get caught up in people handing him money based on the fact that they thought they would cash in on him later. Music artists deal with the same shit. It is why TLC claimed they were flat broke even though they had a platinum selling album on the charts. I think it is way too easy to stand outside of that situation and point fingers. I doubt anyone here has a clue what the real deal was. Maybe death threats are much easier to deal with when you have the cash to go with the problems.

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Lost in all of this is how good this kid actually was. He played in the state semis here in Akron, and on the first play of the game, took a 5 yard wheel route for a 63 yard touchdown. Archie Griffith said he thought, when it was all said and done, Clarett would be considered the greatest OSU player ever.

Yes, he wasn’t the fastest back ever, and he ran 4.6s, but he was a great back. He would have run for 2,000 yards his freshman year if he hadn’t been hurt for half the season.

It’s just an absolute shame; gets drafted by the Broncos after all the crap he pulled, and then drinks before practice and throws away that oppurtunity. He always seemed like a nice kid, too. Dumb as a rock, but nice. Who would’ve thought.

Bear

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This is a picture of passenger seat of his SUV when he was arrested.

What a waste.

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[quote]tme wrote:
This is a picture of passenger seat of his SUV when he was arrested.

What a waste.
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A lint roller!?

Goes to show you, once a thug always a thug…

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
tme wrote:
This is a picture of passenger seat of his SUV when he was arrested.

What a waste.

A lint roller!?

Goes to show you, once a thug always a thug…[/quote]

gotta keep that bulletproof vest lint free!

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Punk,punk,punk.

You can make all the excuses in the world, but it boils down to him making shitty choice after shitty choice. He knew right from wrong just like everyone else does. He chose wrong–EVERY time.

There are people who have worked their ass off to get out of the type of situation he was born into, but they don’t get any attention or sympathy.

He was born with natural talent.
He didn’t work hard to develop it, he just showed up. There has never been anything admirable about the kid, and chances are there never will be. We are all better off now that he will be off the streets for a long time.

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If he had a decent, upstanding honorable momma, I bet none of this would have happened. He wouldn’t have taken any graft while in college, probably mentioned for Heisman consideration, and drafted high when his time came. Good moms have the ability to make good upstanding young men. Regardless of their immediate growing up conditions.

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[quote]LA wrote:
Donut62 wrote:

Youngstown-Warren is about as rough as it gets.

A writer from ESPN tells about ties to the rap community and the death threats here:

Being from Youngstown originally, and still having plenty of ties there… I don’t see it a all that rough. However, I won’t be moving back there… ever.[/quote]

I was born and raised in Youngstown and still have family there. According to my mom, there are areas that are spilling over with gang violence and nightly shootings. Apparently, the Mayor has asked for federal agents to be called in.

As far as Clarett is concerned, it is extremely sad to witness.

Here’s what Charles Poliquin had to say about him after Clarett began working with him after dumping his previous trainer…

From an ESPN.com article…(Chad Ikei was one of Clarett’s prior trainers)

So Clarett quit right then and there. "Maurice was like, ‘Just give me what David Boston was getting, and I’ll do whatever,’ " Ikei says. “He wanted an easy route out. I said, ‘You want David Boston’s trainer? Here’s the guy’s number.’”

So Clarett quickly switched to Boston’s guru, Charles Poliquin, who denies supplying Clarett with HGH or steroids. (Boston has been suspended by the NFL after testing positive for steroids). Poliquin and Clarett teamed up for six weeks in Phoenix, but it fell apart when Clarett wanted to move back to L.A., back closer to his rap friends.

"I don’t know why, he was living nice in Phoenix,‘’ Poliquin told me earlier this year. "They gave him the latest Beemer. Whoever was sponsoring him was giving him a real nice, plush life. He was driving better cars than five-year veterans of the NFL. I told his people, ‘Make the guy take the bus and stay at Motel 6.’

And he partied too much oh yeah. When he didn’t report back after the Christmas holidays, we found out he was drunk as a skunk in New Orleans. We kept calling his people, ‘When is he going to be back? When is he going to be back?’ Because he’s the type of guy, if you’re not on his ass every day, he’ll gain three pounds of fat a day. But there’s not a lot of guys that want to play pro football when they have a team of money men backing them up. I mean, he was living in Malibu. Right on the beach. You walked out of the house, and there you were on the beach. I’ve been to the house. It’s a nice place. The guy owned like 10 cars and said, pick whatever car you want.

"And he was training at, I don’t know, L.A. Sports Club. One of those stars, rich-and-famous gym. Which I told him you can’t train [there]. It’s a gym for the young and pretty, but you can’t get strong, you know. When I was there, there were a bunch of guys from the TV series ‘24,’ and actors and rappers. I would say Maurice was a classic case of Hollywood fever. Among the rich and famous, and he thought he was there with ‘em.’’

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[quote]kroby wrote:
If he had a decent, upstanding honorable momma, I bet none of this would have happened. He wouldn’t have taken any graft while in college, probably mentioned for Heisman consideration, and drafted high when his time came. Good moms have the ability to make good upstanding young men. Regardless of their immediate growing up conditions.[/quote]

From all accounts his mother is actually a very level-headed, bright woman. Since we’re discussing a (in)famous young athlete from NE Ohio and their parental influences, take a look at Lebron’s mom…she’s a loose cannon and her son exudes maturity at very young age in a sport that has had more than it’s fair share of thug influences.

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Worthless individual.

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[quote]nickels wrote:
Fall from grace? More like a return to his roots…[/quote]

Yea exactly. This tub of lard ran a high 4.7 40 before the draft. An all city highschool running back runs faster than that.