[quote]Sloth wrote:
I’m not going to pretend that a socially liberal society would vote against a large nanny state to handle the morning after oopsie, or the absence of family in their twilight years.
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what you are suggesting is just what you are accusing liberals of doing . You suggest we dictate to others how they chose to live their life .
You are entitled to think life begins at the sperm and egg , you have the right to belive what ever you like
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ok , I get it , Gay sex is not for you[/quote]
Ha ha ha…this is vintage Pittbull right here!
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
When someone ask me “Fine, you don’t think the government should recognize homosexual couplings as marriages, but what’s so damn special about heterosexual couplings? Huh? Huh…”
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How is who some one else fucks or marrys any of your business ?
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The funny thing is, this is an argument against state recognized (the public’s business) homosexual marriage. As for heterosexual marriage, who do you think pays the bill for the fatherless child and the childless elderly?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I am heartbroken that it appears I have been so unfaithful to my Lord as to have been excluded from your list. I’ll try harder from now on.[/quote]
While I may disagree with you I find you to be genuine in your posts . Meaning you listen to reason.Sorry 
The people I have listed lose sight that this is a conversation and they set themselves on a pedestal and in doing so feel others should over look their absence of substance .
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Pitt, if I could actually get the substance of my arguments to not be ignored, it would be wonderful. Take the ‘gay marriage’ thread, which is undoubtedly my freshest offense, in your mind. I made a case for my position that calls into such questions as the role of the government, what is sufficient to cause it to act and distinguish or to lay dormant and blind.
I called into question the assumption made by opponents that somehow homosexual couplings and heterosexual couplings carry the same social (heck, humanity) wide impact. That are somehow remotely equivalent.
When someone ask me “Fine, you don’t think the government should recognize homosexual couplings as marriages, but what’s so damn special about heterosexual couplings? Huh? Huh…”
Well, I can’t help but feel that the answer is so self-evident, just from having lived in the world long enough to learn about the birds and bees, that I’m not being treated to an honest conversation. If you don’t want any marriages recognized than make the argument.
But don’t ask me to pretend that there aren’t circumstances between the two couplings which make them worlds apart in the consideration “Does it rise to the level that society/government may have an interest?” World’s apart. Concede it and move on.
I’m not the kind of guy that is going to pretend homosexual couplings and heterosexual couplings have anything remotely like the same impact on society and humanity as a whole.
I’m not going to pretend your son in a dress is a little girl.
I’m not going to pretend that a human organism (life) isn’t in the womb.
I’m not going to pretend that a raunchy low-brow culture doesn’t shape the next generation.
I’m not going to pretend that a socially liberal society would vote against a large nanny state to handle the morning after oopsie, or the absence of family in their twilight years.
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I am sorry I can not see the forest for the trees . one question at a time or one statement please
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And another classic!
Is this two for one day Pittski?
“slow down now one thing at a time…wha…what…whadya mean?”
LMAO!
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I am heartbroken that it appears I have been so unfaithful to my Lord as to have been excluded from your list. I’ll try harder from now on.[/quote]
While I may disagree with you I find you to be genuine in your posts . Meaning you listen to reason.Sorry
The people I have listed lose sight that this is a conversation and they set themselves on a pedestal and in doing so feel others should over look their absence of substance .
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Pitt, if I could actually get the substance of my arguments to not be ignored, it would be wonderful. Take the ‘gay marriage’ thread, which is undoubtedly my freshest offense, in your mind. I made a case for my position that calls into such questions as the role of the government, what is sufficient to cause it to act and distinguish or to lay dormant and blind.
I called into question the assumption made by opponents that somehow homosexual couplings and heterosexual couplings carry the same social (heck, humanity) wide impact. That are somehow remotely equivalent.
When someone ask me “Fine, you don’t think the government should recognize homosexual couplings as marriages, but what’s so damn special about heterosexual couplings? Huh? Huh…”
Well, I can’t help but feel that the answer is so self-evident, just from having lived in the world long enough to learn about the birds and bees, that I’m not being treated to an honest conversation. If you don’t want any marriages recognized than make the argument.
But don’t ask me to pretend that there aren’t circumstances between the two couplings which make them worlds apart in the consideration “Does it rise to the level that society/government may have an interest?” World’s apart. Concede it and move on.
I’m not the kind of guy that is going to pretend homosexual couplings and heterosexual couplings have anything remotely like the same impact on society and humanity as a whole.
I’m not going to pretend your son in a dress is a little girl.
I’m not going to pretend that a human organism (life) isn’t in the womb.
I’m not going to pretend that a raunchy low-brow culture doesn’t shape the next generation.
I’m not going to pretend that a socially liberal society would vote against a large nanny state to handle the morning after oopsie, or the absence of family in their twilight years.
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I am sorry I can not see the forest for the trees . one question at a time or one statement please
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Don’t complain about substance when an individual has laid out his arguments, had to reiterate specific points, fielded questions…only to have someone such as yourself turn around and contribute nothing but pot-shot questions and statements.
Questions where basic self evident realities of the world have to be ignored in order to be asked. Questions that are meant to hijack by trying to goad the person, let’s say me, into an argument he’s not making. Etc.
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You have not laid out any points you just rail on and on making no sense. I am asking you specific questions but you try to hide in long posts and “I already covered that” answers
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ok , I get it , Gay sex is not for you[/quote]
Ha ha ha…this is vintage Pittbull right here!
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Thank you very much
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am sorry I can not see the forest for the trees . one question at a time or one statement please
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Pitt, you seem like the type who’d chop down all the trees, expecting to have a better view of the forest when done.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
You have not laid out any points you just rail on and on making no sense. I am asking you specific questions but you try to hide in long posts and “I already covered that” answers
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You’re right, I apologize. Perhaps you’d be better served skipping my posts and not bothering yourself replying to them. Sad to see it didn’t work out, but take care in life.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO there are many examples of individuals claiming some Authority that is not merited. Leading the way is Zeb, Sloth and Sex machine
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That list could be extended to include most the population as they don’t want gay marriage or legalised marijuana either.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO there are many examples of individuals claiming some Authority that is not merited. Leading the way is Zeb, Sloth and Sex machine
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That list could be extended to include most the population as they don’t want gay marriage or legalised marijuana either.[/quote]
On one of those issues will be decided on by the voters in 3 states and those votes will not include
minors .IMO there are many young people that both smoke pot and are gay that will have no voice (right or wrong)
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO there are many examples of individuals claiming some Authority that is not merited. Leading the way is Zeb, Sloth and Sex machine
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That list could be extended to include most the population as they don’t want gay marriage or legalised marijuana either.[/quote]
On one of those issues will be decided on by the voters in 3 states and those votes will not include
minors .IMO there are many young people that both smoke pot and are gay that will have no voice (right or wrong)
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You want to extend voting rights to children now?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO there are many examples of individuals claiming some Authority that is not merited. Leading the way is Zeb, Sloth and Sex machine
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That list could be extended to include most the population as they don’t want gay marriage or legalised marijuana either.[/quote]
You can throw abortion in there as well. The latest polling data indicates that most Americans want abortion prohibited.
Oh sorry Pitt…that means that most Americans are A G A I N S T abortion.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO there are many examples of individuals claiming some Authority that is not merited. Leading the way is Zeb, Sloth and Sex machine
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That list could be extended to include most the population as they don’t want gay marriage or legalised marijuana either.[/quote]
On one of those issues will be decided on by the voters in 3 states and those votes will not include
minors .IMO there are many young people that both smoke pot and are gay that will have no voice (right or wrong)
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You want to extend voting rights to children now?[/quote]
No but especially marijuana laws are having a devastating effect on some kid’s lives. Keeping them from College admission denying them student loans some of the effects will last a life time
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
marijuana [is] having a devastating effect on some kid’s lives…the effects will last a life time
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fixed
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO there are many examples of individuals claiming some Authority that is not merited. Leading the way is Zeb, Sloth and Sex machine
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That list could be extended to include most the population as they don’t want gay marriage or legalised marijuana either.[/quote]
You can throw abortion in there as well. The latest polling data indicates that most Americans want abortion prohibited.
Oh sorry Pitt…that means that most Americans are A G A I N S T abortion.
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on the subject of abortion I do understand the gravity and I am not qualified to speak as an authority. IMO life for the child is at the Mothers discretion until it can sustain it’s own life.
Like i say I am not qualified for that debate
[quote]Pittbull wrote:
there are many young people that both smoke pot and are gay that will have no voice (right or wrong)
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One would swear reading pitski’s posts that he is a pure troll. But…but…he’s not. He is in fact a sincere individual, just very dumb.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Pittbull wrote:
there are many young people that both smoke pot and are gay that will have no voice (right or wrong)
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One would swear reading pitski’s posts that he is a pure troll. But…but…he’s not. He is in fact a sincere individual, just very dumb.[/quote]
How so ? remember keep it short and simple
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO there are many examples of individuals claiming some Authority that is not merited. Leading the way is Zeb, Sloth and Sex machine
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That list could be extended to include most the population as they don’t want gay marriage or legalised marijuana either.[/quote]
You can throw abortion in there as well. The latest polling data indicates that most Americans want abortion prohibited.
Oh sorry Pitt…that means that most Americans are A G A I N S T abortion.
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on the subject of abortion I do understand the gravity and I am not qualified to speak as an authority. IMO life for the child is at the Mothers discretion until it can sustain it’s own life.
Like i say I am not qualified for that debate
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Um…look Pitski you are not qualified to speak on any of the topics that you seem to love, but that has never prevented you from mouthing off page after page. So, go right ahead and keep posting. I have a light work day and right now you are my only entertainment.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Pittbull wrote:
there are many young people that both smoke pot and are gay that will have no voice (right or wrong)
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One would swear reading pitski’s posts that he is a pure troll. But…but…he’s not. He is in fact a sincere individual, just very dumb.[/quote]
How so ? remember keep it short and simple
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All of your posts.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO there are many examples of individuals claiming some Authority that is not merited. Leading the way is Zeb, Sloth and Sex machine
[/quote]
That list could be extended to include most the population as they don’t want gay marriage or legalised marijuana either.[/quote]
On one of those issues will be decided on by the voters in 3 states and those votes will not include
minors .IMO there are many young people that both smoke pot and are gay that will have no voice (right or wrong)
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You want to extend voting rights to children now?[/quote]
No but especially marijuana laws are having a devastating effect on some kid’s lives. Keeping them from College admission denying them student loans some of the effects will last a life time
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Sniff…I feel so bad for those kids. Oh wait…they were aware that it was illegal and did it anyway huh? And on top of that they were dumb enough to get caught. Okay, never mind I don’t feel bad for them anymore.