With the cjc I used 2mls bac water which have me 100mcg per 10ius on a slin pin. Which I did 100mcg 3x a day
The mt-2 I’m not familiar with the proper dosing so I can’t comment on that.
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I usually pinned right before bed or like 30 min before. Either way I slept great.
If your trying to get more out of it then just sleep I would use it at least twice a day a long with ghrp 6/2 or ipa[/quote]
I have been running my CJC-1295 for about 10 days now. As I said earlier, I want to use it as a sleep aid. I have been dosing 50 mcg prior to bed and really see no results in sleep. I upped it last night to 100 mcg and still nothing, any ideas? Do I really need to add HGRP-6 to get the sleep benefits?
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I usually pinned right before bed or like 30 min before. Either way I slept great.
If your trying to get more out of it then just sleep I would use it at least twice a day a long with ghrp 6/2 or ipa[/quote]
I have been running my CJC-1295 for about 10 days now. As I said earlier, I want to use it as a sleep aid. I have been dosing 50 mcg prior to bed and really see no results in sleep. I upped it last night to 100 mcg and still nothing, any ideas? Do I really need to add HGRP-6 to get the sleep benefits? [/quote]
Yes. The sleep benefit comes from a ghrp alone. From what I have read cjc doesn’t work unless you have a ghrp, however, ghrp can be use alone.
[quote]thehooliganmel wrote:
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I usually pinned right before bed or like 30 min before. Either way I slept great.
If your trying to get more out of it then just sleep I would use it at least twice a day a long with ghrp 6/2 or ipa[/quote]
I have been running my CJC-1295 for about 10 days now. As I said earlier, I want to use it as a sleep aid. I have been dosing 50 mcg prior to bed and really see no results in sleep. I upped it last night to 100 mcg and still nothing, any ideas? Do I really need to add HGRP-6 to get the sleep benefits? [/quote]
Yes. The sleep benefit comes from a ghrp alone. From what I have read cjc doesn’t work unless you have a ghrp, however, ghrp can be use alone. [/quote]
How quickly will I see the benefits for sleep? Will it be that night or does it take weeks?
I passed them up because walkaway brought up a good point that they are often fake.
interesting stuff…
i had been looking at trying GHRP-6, but after looking around more, am likely to try Ipamorelin. i’m looking for the fat loss and recovery aspects, and not the size gains from the increased hunger, though…
plus, i like the fact that it has less of an effect on prolactin and cortisol.
[quote]Mennotinblack wrote:
I passed them up because walkaway brought up a good point that they are often fake.[/quote]
I guess that could be said about most things out there. The only thing I am sure of is my Test Cyp., script by Doc, filled by CVS.
I noticed the sleep within a few days.
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I noticed the sleep within a few days. [/quote]
CJC alone? Maybe I did get bunk because I ain’t seeing better sleep.
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I noticed the sleep within a few days. [/quote]
CJC alone? Maybe I did get bunk because I ain’t seeing better sleep.[/quote]
I also felt the effects in a few days. Ghrp alone. If you haven’t already read dat’s forum. You’ll find cjc alone is never recommended.
So would you take one or both of these to help sleep with tren? Assuming you were having trouble sleeping on tren ofc.
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I noticed the sleep within a few days. [/quote]
CJC alone? Maybe I did get bunk because I ain’t seeing better sleep.[/quote]
Pretty sure it was from the ghrp not the cjc
I shelved the CJC-1295 for the last month since it was recommended that I add the GHRP-6 to see any benefits. I had also started MT-2 so I wanted to wait to see if I had any sides with that. I like to stay with one variable if at all possible.
Math check here; GHRP-6 vial containing 5mg at 100mcg provides 50 shots. CJC-1295 vial containing 2mg at 100 mcg provides 20 shots. If that is correct, a months supply should be about 2 GHRP-6 and 5 CJC vials, assuming you were dosing 3x a day.
I did my first injection of CJC-1295 (100 mcg) with GHRP-6 (100 mcg) last night. No cals 2 1/2 hr before and none the hr. after. I never got the dreaded hunger most guys talk about. I am going to stay with a single dose at night, about 3 hr. before bed. I didn’t notice any better sleep either. I’ll keep this routine for a few days and see how it goes.
Any thoughts?
Give it a few days
[quote]BUDs wrote:
Give it a few days [/quote]
So it needs to build up in my system? Everything I read said it done in like 30 min. I am also wondering about the hunger, others have said its the best way to know you got the real thing from the chemical research company. (GWP)
You won’t get crazy hungry from 100mcg (or at least I didn’t, just maybe mild). Try 300 or 400 if you want to know if your stuff is legit. I housed a 1.5lb burger and two bowls of cereal after that dose haha. Also try doing it IM, at least to verify. Different people say different things, but I’ve always been of the school of thought that IM is better to give you the pulse effect we’re looking for, since it is much quicker absorbed.
And FYI I love mt-II. Might run it all year.
Check out this thread
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/mesomorphic_condition_the_hgh_experiment?id=4000953&pageNo=0
The protocol by dave_ is what I’ve been running, and I think its working great. IM 4x a day isn’t that fun, but at least its much easier to pin than gear.
[quote]complete_fraud wrote:
Check out this thread
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/mesomorphic_condition_the_hgh_experiment?id=4000953&pageNo=0
The protocol by dave_ is what I’ve been running, and I think its working great. IM 4x a day isn’t that fun, but at least its much easier to pin than gear.[/quote]
I started perusing that thread and read dave_'s protocol. Out of context but here what he said,
My method was as follows;
GHRP-6, 125mcg upon waking, and every 3 hours afterwards.
NO FOOD until 3-4 PM
Carb/Protein feast from 3-4 PM until training (usually around 8-9PM)
Protein/Fats exclusively after training, remembering to give myself a final dose of GHRP-6 before bed.
How the hell can you have any reasonable caloric intake like this. And what about protein? Even if I slam all my protein within 8 hr. I don’t think my body can utilize all that in such a short period of time. Am I missing something?
BTW, HELL NO on more IM injections! (lol)
People have had success with just eating protein in a smaller window- the whole Intermittent Fasting/Lean gains approach that’s all the rage now.
Anyway I’m kind of doing the same thing he was- going mainly for fatloss, so not worried about calories too much outside of protein (which isn’t bad, especially if you use why). Not sure what your goals are?