[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Look what up? Not all gays are bisexual, but all bisexuals are gay. Is that simple enough? People who claim to be “bi” are just selling out. There is no bi, you are either straight or gay.[/quote]
If not all gays are bisexual, what is the difference between those that are bisexual and those that aren’t?
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Obviously, just because you’re attracted to people of the same gender doesn’t mean you will also be attracted to people of the opposite gender. We have a name for people that are attracted to both genders, and it’s not gay.
How are bisexuals “selling out” if they are genuinely attracted to both genders?
[quote]forlife wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Look what up? Not all gays are bisexual, but all bisexuals are gay. Is that simple enough? People who claim to be “bi” are just selling out. There is no bi, you are either straight or gay.
If not all gays are bisexual, what is the difference between those that are bisexual and those that aren’t?
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Obviously, just because you’re attracted to people of the same gender doesn’t mean you will also be attracted to people of the opposite gender. We have a name for people that are attracted to both genders, and it’s not gay.
How are bisexuals “selling out” if they are genuinely attracted to both genders?[/quote]
If someone is bi, how do you think their partner might feel, knowing that they are attracted to the other sex? Come on man, pick one and be done with it. Would you feel comfortable if your partner also like women? Don’t you think he should make up his mind already?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
If someone is bi, how do you think their partner might feel, knowing that they are attracted to the other sex? Come on man, pick one and be done with it. Would you feel comfortable if your partner also like women? Don’t you think he should make up his mind already?[/quote]
Why do you keep implying that I am attracted to women? I’m not, and neither is my partner. We are both GAY. Get it?
I do know people that are bisexual, and they are genuinely attracted to both genders. I can’t relate to that, but it is the case for them. Why does it matter if a person is attracted to one or both genders? If they are in a committed, monogamous relationship, the gender(s) of the people they find attractive is irrelevant. From my conversations with bisexuals, they don’t feel like they are missing out on anything by being in a relationship with a man vs. a woman. They think of it instead as being in a relationship with a “person”, and the gender doesn’t really matter to them.
Again, it’s not something I can personally relate to, but it doesn’t mean these people don’t exist. They do, and they’re called bisexuals.
You keep thinking that I am speaking about you personally, I am talking about in general. It’s a cop out for someone (yes I am not referring to you) to claim to be bi. People need to make up their minds already.
What do you mean “make up their minds”? Why do you not understand that some people are genuinely attracted to BOTH genders? You can’t control who you find attractive, so there’s no choice to be made here. And even if there were, why would it matter?
It just seems like a cop out to me. Someone likes men, then likes women, then men, and so on. I could not deal with such instability like that. I think it’s also a shitty thing to do to someone you are with.
Why are you assuming that they jump back and forth between people? Bisexuals can be just as loving and committed to a long term monogamous relationship as heteros or gays. They just have more people to choose from in finding their partner.
At least, that is my understanding. I can’t relate to being attracted to both genders any more than I can relate to being attracted to women. I’m just going on what my bisexual friends have told me. They think of people as “people” rather than drawing a male/female distinction.
And again, it’s not like people have a choice on who they find attractive. They can only choose what they do with that attraction.
You are only looking at one side of the argument, imagine what it’s like for the other person. When I do have a girlfriend, I do think about her feelings, and the decisions that might affect them. There is more to a relationship than just any one person, but also including the other person. Do any of your bi friends ever think about how their bi-ness affects their signficant other? Probably not. Like I said, it sounds selfish to me.
Again, you seem to be assuming that bisexuals aren’t 100% fulfilled, happy, and committed in a relationship with one person. That is NOT what my bisexual friends have told me though. They claim that the gender of their partner doesn’t matter. It’s not like they’re only 50% fulfilled, and are always looking out for someone to fill the remaining 50%.
I’m just going on hearsay though. I could be wrong, and in that case I agree it would be hard to have a bisexual partner.
I strongly disagree that there is anything selfish about it though. You need to get over the idea that sexual orientation is a choice, and you need to differentiate between sexual orientation and sexual behavior. People can’t choose who they find attractive. If they are hard wired to find both men and women attractive, what are they supposed to do about it? They can’t just decide to stop finding men or women attractive.
Of course that is what THEY (bisexuals) claim, you expected something different? I am not convinced that sexual orientation is genetic, and I have my reasons why. People should be aware of their decisions and how is affects their partners.
Why would someone claim to be attracted to both genders if they weren’t actually bisexual? I’m not able to be attracted to both genders, how about you? Are you saying it is impossible for someone to be attracted to both genders?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
No I am not attracted to both sexes, only women. I don’t think it is possible to be attracted to both sexes, that’s my view.[/quote]
Some people don’t think it’s possible for an eye to evolve to they write it off. An educated evolutionary biologist could explain it with ease. See a parallel there?
Without actually being Bisexual or Homosexual, how could you ever hope to know how they feel?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
No I am not attracted to both sexes, only women. I don’t think it is possible to be attracted to both sexes, that’s my view.[/quote]
Some people don’t think it’s possible for an eye to evolve to they write it off. An educated evolutionary biologist could explain it with ease. See a parallel there?
Without actually being Bisexual or Homosexual, how could you ever hope to know how they feel?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
No I am not attracted to both sexes, only women. I don’t think it is possible to be attracted to both sexes, that’s my view.[/quote]
If it’s not possible to be attracted to both men and women, how the hell do you explain all the people who not only say they are attracted to both, but actually have sex with both? Why would someone do that if they didn’t find the people attractive? You’re not making any sense.
[quote]forlife wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
No I am not attracted to both sexes, only women. I don’t think it is possible to be attracted to both sexes, that’s my view.
If it’s not possible to be attracted to both men and women, how the hell do you explain all the people who not only say they are attracted to both, but actually have sex with both? Why would someone do that if they didn’t find the people attractive? You’re not making any sense.[/quote]
People do things that make no sense all the time, I have no idea what goes through their minds, nor do I care. You and I are attracted to completely different people, and you wonder why I make no sense to you, and you make no sense to me?
It is not my job to convince you, and vise versa. My opinion is mine, and yours is yours. Are you going to wrack your brain trying to figure out how a straight man thinks?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
No I am not attracted to both sexes, only women. I don’t think it is possible to be attracted to both sexes, that’s my view.
Some people don’t think it’s possible for an eye to evolve to they write it off. An educated evolutionary biologist could explain it with ease. See a parallel there?
Without actually being Bisexual or Homosexual, how could you ever hope to know how they feel?[/quote]
Your eye analogy is so controversial, there are convincing arguments for both sides, poor choice to use.
I don’t need to be attracted to women to understand there are guys who are. You don’t have to be attracted to men to understand there are guys who are. And neither of us has to be attracted to both genders to understand there are people who are.
If that were the case, there would be no disputing gay or straight, homo or hetero. But with all the threads and arguments made, that is not the case now is it.
Forlife, I think this thread is devolving into just repeating the same arguments over and over. To be honest, I would have just logged off and never looked back at the “no bisexuals” remark.