Circumcision?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
stellar_horizon wrote:
superscience wrote:

This is misleading. Babies naturally increase brain activity and their bodies learn which neural pathways allow the accomplishment of a task. If they try to raise their hand, eventually they will work out which set of neural responses are needed to perform that action. It becomes ingrained through repetition. To imply that a baby and an adult would experience the exact same loss of sensitivity in a sexual organ makes little sense. A baby’s sex organ is undeveloped. Therefore, you can’t claim there is a reduction in sensitivity from 10 to 3 in a baby simply because a full grown adult who has a matured sex organ may experience it post-surgery. As has been written by several people in this thread and myself, my dick is sensitive. I can’t speak for any other man, but I do know if this is a 3, walking around with a “10” would make me pass out every time I inhaled or walked briskly. Entering pussy would cause immediate ejaculation. With that in mind, why do you pretend as if this wouldn’t be the case? If anything, it only points to why it should be done as a newborn and not as an adult.[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing as I read his post. It’s similar to suffering nerve damage in other parts of the body as a kid vs as an adult. The earlier in life it occurs, the more the body is able to adapt and compensate for the loss of nerve tissue, through either re-growth or compensation. Another example would be someone who is blind at birth vs an adult who goes blind at the age of 21. Who will have the best use of their other senses? Of course, the person born blind, because their body has adapted from the onset of life. Totally different scenarios.

And how the hell do you measure the sensitivity of a newborn’s penis anyway???

DB

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
If my dick was 3 times more sensitive I would probably blow a load in my pants every 10 minutes.[/quote]

Seriously, I remember as a teenager, pushing carts outside the grocery store I worked at, a light wind would blow my pants against my dick and I’d be like “oh no, not again…”

[quote]Will Tagye wrote:
Wasn’t circed as a baby but had to at the age of 21 due to splitting of the turtleneck. Wish I never had it done, the sex was way better before. Chicks dug it and liked to play with it because it was different. Never had any cleaning issues and I was a USMC infantryman. I will never do it to my son. If I could have it back I would gladly take it back.[/quote]

Splitting of the turtleneck sounds painful. I was cut at birth and I’ve never had sensitivity issues or split dick skin. What causes that anyway? I’ve had a lot of split skin on my hands and feet, which was either caused by fungus, dryness or callouses - all of which people arguing for non-circumcision have used as reasons to not be cut. Interesting.

DB

[quote]stellar_horizon wrote:
super saiyan wrote:
Luke 2:21
And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

Jesus was circumcised and he was perfect. Nuff said.
Read up on Acts of the Apostles. Circumcision was no longer mandated for converts to Christianity.
It was a practice that Jews followed to confirm their covenant with God in earlier times so as to be distinguished from the heathens. When Christ came, He fulfilled all that was under the law. Indeed He was perfect, but the laws were fulfilled after His Resurrection and certain rituals (such as circumcision) were soon after expunged by the Apostles (who were inspired by the Holy Spirit which is one Person of the Godhead and is also perfect).

Peace be with you.
[/quote]

Firts off I was only kidding. (Maybe you missed my Chuck Norris and Mr. T cmments following.) And yes, it’s no longer a requirement by covenant but it’s also not banned. If parents decide to circumcise their boys for health or social reasons it’s certainly not a sin to do so.

[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Will Tagye wrote:
Wasn’t circed as a baby but had to at the age of 21 due to splitting of the turtleneck. Wish I never had it done, the sex was way better before. Chicks dug it and liked to play with it because it was different. Never had any cleaning issues and I was a USMC infantryman. I will never do it to my son. If I could have it back I would gladly take it back.

Splitting of the turtleneck sounds painful. I was cut at birth and I’ve never had sensitivity issues or split dick skin. What causes that anyway? I’ve had a lot of split skin on my hands and feet, which was either caused by fungus, dryness or callouses - all of which people arguing for non-circumcision have used as reasons to not be cut. Interesting.

DB[/quote]
The splitting of skin was due to a lack of elasticity in the skin when pulled over an erection. Over time the little splits scarred and decreased elasticity even more. The whole issue started when I was around 16 and started shagging girls regularly and a little tear didn’t stop anything. It was basically a build up of over use injuries. The worst was a weekend of overuse followed by a week in the field during winter causing a bit of chaffing/dryness. That was a rough one.

[quote] Circumcision was no longer mandated for converts to Christianity.
It was a practice that Jews followed to confirm their covenant with God in earlier times so as to be distinguished from the heathens. When Christ came, He fulfilled all that was under the law. Indeed He was perfect, but the laws were fulfilled after His Resurrection and certain rituals (such as circumcision) were soon after expunged by the Apostles (who were inspired by the Holy Spirit which is one Person of the Godhead and is also perfect).

Peace be with you.
[/quote]

Actually, the Jews took this tradition (like oh so many other traditions) from the Egyptians during their time of enslavement; making them more heathenesque. You see, the Egyptians were trying to achieve immortality. They looked around and saw the snake shedding its skin, which to them seemed like a “rebirth.” So they looked at themselves and what looked like a “snake” on themselves, which could also lose a little skin. Hence circumcision. Discovery had a good documentary about this about a year ago. JC was a practicing Jew… if was good enough for him, then it’s good enough for me.

Missing a piece be with you.

[quote]lizard king wrote:
Actually, the Jews took this tradition (like oh so many other traditions) from the Egyptians during their time of enslavement; making them more heathenesque. You see, the Egyptians were trying to achieve immortality. They looked around and saw the snake shedding its skin, which to them seemed like a “rebirth.” So they looked at themselves and what looked like a “snake” on themselves, which could also lose a little skin. Hence circumcision. Discovery had a good documentary about this about a year ago. JC was a practicing Jew… if was good enough for him, then it’s good enough for me.

Missing a piece be with you.[/quote]

LOL. Funny parting phrase. And thanks for the feedback. I’ll have to analyze the historicity of circumcision in Judaism on a deeper level though, since I’ve witnessed exaggerated claims and loose associations on quite a few occasions on the Discovery channel pertaining to religious practices & customs.

Peace be with you.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
As has been written by several people in this thread and myself, my dick is sensitive. I can’t speak for any other man, but I do know if this is a 3, walking around with a “10” would make me pass out every time I inhaled or walked briskly. Entering pussy would cause immediate ejaculation.[/quote]

Ok - I underwent a partial circ in 2002 because the foreskin got too tight. A small fraction (~20%) of my forehead is now uncovered and, thus, as it rubs under cotton and against abrasive denim jeans, there’s a slightly painful sensation. No circumcised man I know of possesses this level of sensory perception while my non-circumcized European friends acknowledge how painful my experience probably is.

Over the years I’ve lost a considerable amount of sensitivity in the uncovered segment but the pain has subsided as the sensitivty has critically diminished. The remaining 80% of my forehead is still highly sensitive however. So much so that washing it (foreskin pulled back) causes shivers up my spine. I imagine that leaving it uncovered for a certain period of time sprinkled with running water would eventually induce ejaculation. That’s how sensitive the covered 80% portion of my penis still remains.

Ok, that’s the most personal fact I’ve ever relayed on T-Nation, thus, I hope it was informing and useful even to a small degree to someone out there. As someone who participated in circumcision, I still give it two thumbs down.

thank god for Circumcision if my penis were 70 percent more sensitive my girlfreind would never get off due to premature ejaculation

[quote]Will Tagye wrote:

The splitting of skin was due to a lack of elasticity in the skin when pulled over an erection. Over time the little splits scarred and decreased elasticity even more. The whole issue started when I was around 16 and started shagging girls regularly and a little tear didn’t stop anything. It was basically a build up of over use injuries. The worst was a weekend of overuse followed by a week in the field during winter causing a bit of chaffing/dryness. That was a rough one. [/quote]

Yowch. OK, for the record, if for no other reason THIS is why I am glad I was circ’d at birth. And another reason I am glad I got my sons’ done.

[quote]stellar_horizon wrote:
Professor X wrote:
As has been written by several people in this thread and myself, my dick is sensitive. I can’t speak for any other man, but I do know if this is a 3, walking around with a “10” would make me pass out every time I inhaled or walked briskly. Entering pussy would cause immediate ejaculation.

Ok - I underwent a partial circ in 2002 because the foreskin got too tight. A small fraction (~20%) of my forehead is now uncovered and, thus, as it rubs under cotton and against abrasive denim jeans, there’s a slightly painful sensation. No circumcised man I know of possesses this level of sensory perception while my non-circumcized European friends acknowledge how painful my experience probably is.

Over the years I’ve lost a considerable amount of sensitivity in the uncovered segment but the pain has subsided as the sensitivty has critically diminished. The remaining 80% of my forehead is still highly sensitive however. So much so that washing it (foreskin pulled back) causes shivers up my spine. I imagine that leaving it uncovered for a certain period of time sprinkled with running water would eventually induce ejaculation. That’s how sensitive the covered 80% portion of my penis still remains.

Ok, that’s the most personal fact I’ve ever relayed on T-Nation, thus, I hope it was informing and useful even to a small degree to someone out there. As someone who participated in circumcision, I still give it two thumbs down.[/quote]

ILMFAO as I’m trying to visualize you pulling back your foreskin to reveal that the covering on your forehead is 20% missing.

Sounds like you are a true dickhead…[badabum/cymbal clash]

DB

sorry. your post really reads funny in English.

[quote]stellar_horizon wrote:
Professor X wrote:
As has been written by several people in this thread and myself, my dick is sensitive. I can’t speak for any other man, but I do know if this is a 3, walking around with a “10” would make me pass out every time I inhaled or walked briskly. Entering pussy would cause immediate ejaculation.

Ok - I underwent a partial circ in 2002 because the foreskin got too tight. A small fraction (~20%) of my forehead is now uncovered and, thus, as it rubs under cotton and against abrasive denim jeans, there’s a slightly painful sensation. No circumcised man I know of possesses this level of sensory perception while my non-circumcized European friends acknowledge how painful my experience probably is.

Over the years I’ve lost a considerable amount of sensitivity in the uncovered segment but the pain has subsided as the sensitivty has critically diminished. The remaining 80% of my forehead is still highly sensitive however. So much so that washing it (foreskin pulled back) causes shivers up my spine. I imagine that leaving it uncovered for a certain period of time sprinkled with running water would eventually induce ejaculation. That’s how sensitive the covered 80% portion of my penis still remains.

Ok, that’s the most personal fact I’ve ever relayed on T-Nation, thus, I hope it was informing and useful even to a small degree to someone out there. As someone who participated in circumcision, I still give it two thumbs down.[/quote]

You seem to not be following me. I was cut AT BIRTH. My body has never known more than a few hours or minutes of having any foreskin, therefore, there is no reason to believe there has been a loss of anything. I guarantee that if a girl were to stroke my dick all of one time, he would be at attention faster than heroin flows through Paris Hilton’s livingroom. YOU on the other hand, had your’s most of your life.

It is now NEW to you to have no foreskin. Thus, your body is now reacting to losing something that was a basic part of your body your entire life. The two circumcision circumstances are not the same. I am happy with my penis. Stop trying to make me unhappy for your’s. I don’t care about your dick…only mine. I am greedy that way.

[quote]stellar_horizon wrote:
Professor X wrote:
As has been written by several people in this thread and myself, my dick is sensitive. I can’t speak for any other man, but I do know if this is a 3, walking around with a “10” would make me pass out every time I inhaled or walked briskly. Entering pussy would cause immediate ejaculation.

Ok - I underwent a partial circ in 2002 because the foreskin got too tight. A small fraction (~20%) of my forehead is now uncovered and, thus, as it rubs under cotton and against abrasive denim jeans, there’s a slightly painful sensation. No circumcised man I know of possesses this level of sensory perception while my non-circumcized European friends acknowledge how painful my experience probably is.

Over the years I’ve lost a considerable amount of sensitivity in the uncovered segment but the pain has subsided as the sensitivty has critically diminished. The remaining 80% of my forehead is still highly sensitive however. So much so that washing it (foreskin pulled back) causes shivers up my spine. I imagine that leaving it uncovered for a certain period of time sprinkled with running water would eventually induce ejaculation. That’s how sensitive the covered 80% portion of my penis still remains.

Ok, that’s the most personal fact I’ve ever relayed on T-Nation, thus, I hope it was informing and useful even to a small degree to someone out there. As someone who participated in circumcision, I still give it two thumbs down.[/quote]

Well, if someone lopped my arm off now I would miss it a lot more than if I had been born without one. I can’t compare what I feel to what an uncircumcised guy would feel. But I enjoy sex. A LOT.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
stellar_horizon wrote:
superscience wrote:
is there any ways of bringin bak sensitivity. i got mine done wen i was 8 and my sensiivity has greatly reduced.

Penis sensitivity post-circumcision goes from a 10 to a 3 (or at best a 4). The skin gradually keratinizes (basically forms callous sheathes of cells). People circumcized as babies are like color-blinded folks, they miss out on increased sensory perception to a significant extent. Anyone getting circumcized as an adult will realize what a great loss they’ve encountered. It’s like seeing a broad spectrum of colors and then only seeing black & white and realizing the magnitude of sensitivity you’ll be missing out on forever.

Until recently, there were no medical procedures to revive sensitivity. Then a medical procedure was introduced that allowed patients to graft an implant of human skin to cover the forehead. Now, there are foreskin restoring devices available for purchase via the internet as well as forums where hundreds of people share information about their experiences with foreskin restoration. After keeping the foreskin covered post-circumcision, the keratinized cells are replaced by fresh cells which regain feeling and stimulation under their warm, moist skinfold.

Here’s a link to check out:

Two thumbs waaaay down for circumcision. Peace be with you!

This is misleading. Babies naturally increase brain activity and their bodies learn which neural pathways allow the accomplishment of a task. If they try to raise their hand, eventually they will work out which set of neural responses are needed to perform that action. It becomes ingrained through repetition. To imply that a baby and an adult would experience the exact same loss of sensitivity in a sexual organ makes little sense. A baby’s sex organ is undeveloped. Therefore, you can’t claim there is a reduction in sensitivity from 10 to 3 in a baby simply because a full grown adult who has a matured sex organ may experience it post-surgery. As has been written by several people in this thread and myself, my dick is sensitive. I can’t speak for any other man, but I do know if this is a 3, walking around with a “10” would make me pass out every time I inhaled or walked briskly. Entering pussy would cause immediate ejaculation. With that in mind, why do you pretend as if this wouldn’t be the case? If anything, it only points to why it should be done as a newborn and not as an adult.[/quote]

Right.

I gurantee you if a girl had the choice they would chose the circ unit rather than the uncirc unit every time. Why? It’s cleaner, streamline and no girl wants to be giving head and chewing bubble gum at the same time.

Kong

Stellar:

Let me know what you find out, I always enjoy learning something new. Lord knows I don’t claim to know everything. Peace be with you my friend.

[quote]stellar_horizon wrote:
Ok - I underwent a partial circ in 2002 because the foreskin got too tight. A small fraction (~20%) of my forehead is now uncovered and, thus, as it rubs under cotton and against abrasive denim jeans, there’s a slightly painful sensation. No circumcised man I know of possesses this level of sensory perception while my non-circumcized European friends acknowledge how painful my experience probably is.

Over the years I’ve lost a considerable amount of sensitivity in the uncovered segment but the pain has subsided as the sensitivty has critically diminished. The remaining 80% of my forehead is still highly sensitive however. So much so that washing it (foreskin pulled back) causes shivers up my spine. I imagine that leaving it uncovered for a certain period of time sprinkled with running water would eventually induce ejaculation. That’s how sensitive the covered 80% portion of my penis still remains.

Ok, that’s the most personal fact I’ve ever relayed on T-Nation, thus, I hope it was informing and useful even to a small degree to someone out there. As someone who participated in circumcision, I still give it two thumbs down.[/quote]

Damn. That does not sound like an experience I’d want. And I’m still glad I kept my kid intact! I went against the grain on that one because I know most ppl still circ their boys.

[quote]Carrie77 wrote:

Damn. That does not sound like an experience I’d want. And I’m still glad I kept my kid intact! I went against the grain on that one because I know most ppl still circ their boys. [/quote]

That was why you did it?

“Nope, son, no college for you. All of these damn kids are gettin’ edumakations and you need ta stand out!”

(/sarcasm)

I started fapping when I was around four years old. A couple years ago, I pulled back the skin and for the first time, noticed crusty yellow stuff. I removed it, but it kind of hurt. It was like my skin had been growing over it, except for a few holes I pulled it out of.

I now check daily, rinse even though I never see anything anymore, and wipe after every time I piss.

Still, that’s the only reason I can see to actually be cut, and simply washing takes care of it.

Doesn’t matter if chicks don’t like it. If you get in a situation where you’re both naked, I doubt foreskin is going to make her run the fuck away.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Carrie77 wrote:

Damn. That does not sound like an experience I’d want. And I’m still glad I kept my kid intact! I went against the grain on that one because I know most ppl still circ their boys.

That was why you did it?

“Nope, son, no college for you. All of these damn kids are gettin’ edumakations and you need ta stand out!”

(/sarcasm)[/quote]

Does that even deserve a response?

It’s not necessary. I think that’s been covered!