[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:<<< But I remember to a degree that he went after your wife. >>>[/quote]Anybody else wanna get on board with this? Don’t be shy.
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I’m sure you think you were being righteous in whatever crazy world you live in, I just remember thinking “damn, that’s rude”.
Let’s be honest here, this is the man’s partner, the mother of his children, the center of his universe… and you were kind of a dick when speaking about her.
Getting back to Hitchens; every time I see him in videos such as this, I get sad for humanity. He really was a gem, and even though I never had the chance to meet him, I truly miss him.
[quote]Makavali wrote:<<< and you were kind of a dick when speaking about her.[/quote]If that is the case then I should repent of this utterly hideous demonstration of gross hypocrisy forthwith. A thing which I am fully prepared to do the VERY SECOND somebody shows that I did it. Go mak. Show us. I can find anything here in under 10 minutes, usually 5. Every last word I have ever said here is public record. Simply show us. My hat will come off and I will literally beg, the Lord first and then Push AND his wife for forgiveness. Further, I do hereby pledge before my God that I will send a one hundred dollar donation to the charity of his choice in his name and post proof that I have done so.
Monkey Jesus…LOL
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:<<< and you were kind of a dick when speaking about her.[/quote]If that is the case then I should repent of this utterly hideous demonstration of gross hypocrisy forthwith. A thing which I am fully prepared to do the VERY SECOND somebody shows that I did it. Go mak. Show us. I can find anything here in under 10 minutes, usually 5. Every last word I have ever said here is public record. Simply show us. My hat will come off and I will literally beg, the Lord first and then Push AND his wife for forgiveness. Further, I do hereby pledge before my God that I will send a one hundred dollar donation to the charity of his choice in his name and post proof that I have done so.
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I’m not going through 12,000 of your posts. And your feigned outrage is almost on par with your transparently feigned humility.
Here’s some not so friendly advice: shut the fuck up about the way Push lives HIS OWN DAMNED LIFE. He doesn’t hurt anyone, and it works for him. You bring it up with alarming regularity, and if I were a betting man, I’d wager that you were jealous.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:<<< and you were kind of a dick when speaking about her.[/quote]If that is the case then I should repent of this utterly hideous demonstration of gross hypocrisy forthwith. A thing which I am fully prepared to do the VERY SECOND somebody shows that I did it. Go mak. Show us. I can find anything here in under 10 minutes, usually 5. Every last word I have ever said here is public record. Simply show us. My hat will come off and I will literally beg, the Lord first and then Push AND his wife for forgiveness. Further, I do hereby pledge before my God that I will send a one hundred dollar donation to the charity of his choice in his name and post proof that I have done so.
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I’m not going through 12,000 of your posts. And your feigned outrage is almost on par with your transparently feigned humility.
Here’s some not so friendly advice: shut the fuck up about the way Push lives HIS OWN DAMNED LIFE. He doesn’t hurt anyone, and it works for him. You bring it up with alarming regularity, and if I were a betting man, I’d wager that you were jealous.[/quote]
This is pretty funny. Tirib’s outrage is feigned, but what is yours? No one has accused you of anything on par. Push has already chosen to let it drop (at least until here) why do you have to take up for him? Can’t he fight his own battle? If you want to help him out, find the offending post for him and let us all see it. I’m getting really curious now. If you won’t do it, how 'bout if you shut up.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
If he’s so not right about the invisible god of pedophiles, he can’t be brilliant.
With this question, there is really no middle ground.
And how would you -a “believer”- find him a great thinker without being completely inconsistent? [/quote]
Well, now that’s bloody retarded don’t you think? So what–Newton wasn’t a fucking genius because he was wrong about time being immutable and Einstein proved that was possible? Come the fuck on. You can be perfectly brilliant and still be wrong. Being smart and a great thinker doesn’t mean you are de facto right all the time. In some corners of physics, certain tenets of Einstein’s relativity are being questioned seriously now (ie–that nothing can travel faster than light). Does that mean fucking EINSTEIN wasn’t brilliant?? Give me a break.
Pull your head out of your angry atheist ass and talk some sense. I don’t have to agree with somebody to think highly of their reasoning skills and admire their dedication to intellectual thought and the pursuit of knowledge whether they’re christian or atheist.
[quote]Finally, you’re a utterly tasteless moron for writing this shit as part of your condolences:
And dudes get censored for writing pacifistic stuff in threats about “soldier day” or stuff like that.
This is not offensive? (Not that I give a crap about offensive internet writ)
“Yeah, you friend died, I’m tooootally sorry, but he’s in hell now and my god is torturing him and I find this awesome! Off I am to preach the gospel of my wonderful god who’s full of love”[/quote]
Your problem is that you believe Tirib was being sarcastic. He wasn’t. He really feels sad and grieved about it because that’s what he believes has happened, so he said so. As much as I find a lot of stuff Tirib says very annoying, he’s a genuine poster. So you can bluster off. Clearly you care about “offensive internet stuff”.
On related note, people I disagree with about some things but still respect highly as thinkers: Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Kant, Foucalt, Jung, Bertrand Russell, Hume, Hobbes, and that’s just philosophy and off the top of my head. If you’re moron enough to not be able to respect anybody you disagree with then you’re clearly about as well developed emotionally and mentally as a 4th grader. [/quote]
Maybe someone said this already (didn’t read all posts), but this is fucking golden.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:<<< and you were kind of a dick when speaking about her.[/quote]If that is the case then I should repent of this utterly hideous demonstration of gross hypocrisy forthwith. A thing which I am fully prepared to do the VERY SECOND somebody shows that I did it. Go mak. Show us. I can find anything here in under 10 minutes, usually 5. Every last word I have ever said here is public record. Simply show us. My hat will come off and I will literally beg, the Lord first and then Push AND his wife for forgiveness. Further, I do hereby pledge before my God that I will send a one hundred dollar donation to the charity of his choice in his name and post proof that I have done so.
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I’m not going through 12,000 of your posts. And your feigned outrage is almost on par with your transparently feigned humility.
Here’s some not so friendly advice: shut the fuck up about the way Push lives HIS OWN DAMNED LIFE. He doesn’t hurt anyone, and it works for him. You bring it up with alarming regularity, and if I were a betting man, I’d wager that you were jealous.[/quote] 2 pages ago.[quote]I don’t know if you noticed, but I’ve been pert near as hard on Aragorn here as I am on you. Not because I hate either one of you, but because I love Jesus and am commanded to defend His truth which is historic and abundantly recorded for all to see.
Only people who claim His name can dishonor it. You don’t see me beatin up on Ben or Sparky here like I am you and Aragorn do ya?[/quote]I’ll try again. I DID NOT BRING HIM UP. ARAGORN DID. My problem is not how he lives his life. It’s that he attempts to tie the God of Christianity to it. I am not equipped to make that clearer. There are people here, like yourself, who hate my guts and would jist LOVE to see me humiliated and discredited. Here’s your chance. Handed to you on a platter if it’s true. I’m daring you too. Find it. In spite of everything I’ve said, I did not think Push would stoop this low. You either actually.
Burp
I looked, it wasn’t there. Wife was mentioned, sure, but no attacks on her personally.
Damn it Tirib, I’m becoming a fan in spite of myself. LOL
[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
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I looked, it wasn’t there. Wife was mentioned, sure, but no attacks on her personally.
Damn it Tirib, I’m becoming a fan in spite of myself. LOL[/quote]
Post it here so I can be sure. If I was wrong, then sorry Tirib, but my comments about leaving other peoples lifestyles alone when they harm no one still stands.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
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I looked, it wasn’t there. Wife was mentioned, sure, but no attacks on her personally.
Damn it Tirib, I’m becoming a fan in spite of myself. LOL[/quote]
Post it here so I can be sure. If I was wrong, then sorry Tirib, but my comments about leaving other peoples lifestyles alone when they harm no one still stands.
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My respect for be willing to extend apologizes when deserved, but the 2nd half doesn’t wash I’m afraid: How do we know what Pushharder’s lifestyle is, if he hasn’t brought it up himself on these discussion forums? It’s open for discussion as long as it’s here. Can I not go look at his deadlift video and then comment? Your back’s rounding some man, reduce the weight some, and work on your lumbar control for awhile, your hamstring flexibility too, or your gonna be damaging yourself.
Hasn’t Bigflamer called my belief in ID “childish” and “fantasy”? It’s a just an internet forum for cryin’ out loud. Don’t want it talked about, don’t bring it up.
[quote]Makavali wrote:<<< If I was wrong, then sorry Tirib, >>>[/quote]Accepted. I would never do that Mak. Not to him, not to you, not to Christopher Hitchens.[quote]Makavali wrote:<<< but my comments about leaving other peoples lifestyles alone when they harm no one still stands. [/quote]There are thousands of people on this site, men and women who live in absolute whoredom. I very rarely bring it up to anybody else in particular because that’s the way a lost sinful world is supposed to act. I will not let what he displays here be confused with the the gospel of the God I love. I wish you could understand that.
In that first uproar somebody started a thread about religious controversies asking about the role of women in people’s religious views. Myself and another guy began stating the universally held Christian view. It didn’t take Push very long to crow bar HIS perverted anti biblical, anti Christian carnality into the conversation. It spiraled into a fairly long sometimes heated debate that he has somehow deluded himself into believing he won. To me it’s not even about who won between us anyway. The gospel lost. Partly because I participated there longer than I should have.
I’m sure the thread’s still there. You can look at it if ya want as well. HE proudly put forward his post modern universally condemned lifestyle as Christian first. I knew for over a year before that conversation started and said nothing until he invaded that thread.
I went back and forth on whether I should say anything or not, but my thanks to Mr. Chen. I’ll be honest, it feels good to get some support every now and then. I don’t get much and I’m fine with that, but it does feel good.
And Ben? I appreciate your taking the time.
Push. Your problem isn’t with me. Repent. Turn from your wickedness, surrender your will to his and live.
I read every word Push. You’re as clueless as ever. I’m not about winning debates. I’m about proclaiming His truth. I wouldn’t expect you to ever have a clue about the things of the Lord clue anyway though.
Wow.
Petty harsh stuff, guys.
I didn’t realize things had gotten to this level.
Mufasa
Pedophile?
Now this IS serious. Basis for accusation?
You haven’t let me down so far Tirib, but if THIS is false, you’re in deep waters.
EDIT: Tirib wrote “boy loving pedophile” or some such, then edited his post before my post showed up.
I agreed with Tirib in the original dust up. Still do. In fact, I don’t think anyone else here, religious (of whatever flavor) or not (despite hatred for Christianity, even) buys that a swinging lifestyle is consistent with bare-bones authentic Christianity. And, I’ve said it in other threads, false teachings are about as injurious of a sin as one gets. Push has to know I think this. I’m sure everyone knows this.
Now, Tirib, while I do think religion and Christianity are fine discussions in a general sense, the sectarian and personal warfare is intrusive and inconsiderate in a forum that leads with Politics, in PWI. If Push was advancing some kind of I don’t know, swinging legislation, I’d see the relevance to this fourm.
See Tirib, even if you didn’t first mention him (Push) when someone else did, you ran with it. And now I’ve seen your last post…the pedophilia stuff before you edited it…
You used to be a regular poster about political matters, too. Very much a fine contributor. These days you seem to be a man on a singular mission. Almost as if you’ve taken your invitation as a guest on an open forum to start a Westminster purity hour. Where we have to hear about the Roman Catholic whore, and your personal persecution of blasphemers from thread to thread. Matters of non-political importance, in other words. Just you carving out a soapbox. Maybe you want to upend some tables, but this aint your temple. Show some manners.
So, what’s with the pedophilia charges. If you don’t have something, I will flat out ignore you over this.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
And now I’ve seen your last post…the pedophilia stuff before you edited it…[/quote]I didn’t edit it. The mods did.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
And now I’ve seen your last post…the pedophilia stuff before you edited it…[/quote]I didn’t edit it. The mods did.
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This is correct. The Mods edited that comment because it was inappropriate and uncalled for.
Discussions/debates/arguments in the Politics & World Issues forum are generally given a bit more leeway than other forums on the site, but there are still certain boundaries which our members are expected not to cross. At those times, Mod/Admin action will certainly be taken.