Christian Commits Mass Murder at Ft. Hood

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

I don’t know if it was intentional or not, but that is the best part of trolls on this board: those who come to their defense.

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Your pattern on this board is to every once in awhile have a tourette-like outburst at various people when you’re not getting enough attention, indicative of the wee-man syndrome I mentioned a couple of months ago and usually in conjunction with e-gargling someone’s testicles.

In this case, it was some new Muslim poster you feel the need to endear yourself to whilst having your spasm of tourettes. In the past, you’ve slobbered all over FI’s nuts. This is probably your pattern in life, however. Having Short Man Syndrome, you must always seek to toady up to the bigger man in the room, since it’s never you, and your tattered ego demands it.

It’s sort of like a kid poking a much bigger person in the eye and then going and standing behind the big brother for protection. Passive aggression, slinking, and the like are your forte. I’ve seen this plenty and recognize it a mile off.

We know you’re capable of better. Perhaps your self-esteem can be better served by actual engagement. Verbally t-bagging yourself is unbecoming.

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[quote]tme wrote:
Gkhan (or Dbhag, which is more accurate) you really are an ignorant piece of shit.
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I’m sick of people ripping on America and Christianity. If that makes me an ignorant piece of shit, so be it.

Too bad you have to resort to name calling instead of something intelligent.

You don’t like me? Hit ignore.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
destroyedquads wrote:
Fuck Islam. Fuck Muslims and their fake God. Fuck Muslims for coming into this country with their Non-Christian, fucking terrorist, devil-worshipping bullshit. They ridicule our ways, they attempt to deliver US from evil as they pray to their rotten, mysoginist, God.

And they bring their ak 47s and bombs and blow up honest, hard working christian, AMERICAN families in OUR country. INNOCENT people. People who have nothing to do with any wars. They don’t want to see your guns, or your planes, or your bombs, or your alien religion. Or your fucked up societies.

And you know what the best part is? They come on to internet message boards and attempt to reason with us into believing that they are ‘peaceful’, just because some of them don’t carry ak 47’s around and blow stuff up.

I have ONE question for every Muslim out there:

If your God communicated to you (I don’t care how, be it through scripture or dreams, or visions or whatever) and told you to kill your child, would you do it? If you say NO, then you are no Muslim you are Atheist scum (how can you believe in your God if you don’t listen to him?).

If you say YES. Then you are a dangerous person and I don’t want you anywhere fucking near me with your ‘Allah Allah dirka dirka’ shit.

Leave us. Go back to where you came from. Go back to that dessert shithole.

God Bless America.

Trolling is not your strong suit.

I agree 100% with him. Round 'em all up and ship them out.

I doubt if he agrees with himself. This sounded to me like an attempt to get somebody to agree with this statement as is and thus induce some of us to expose our irrational intolerance.

Although there is substantive truth to this post and even if he means it, I don’t find it useful to state it this way.[/quote]

Sir,

I don’t know if you are religious, but i am a devout Christian. Perhaps I came off as too rough and aggressive in my post. Perhaps my swearing or the way i worded some things made me sound like I disagree with my own religion… I don’t know. But what I do know is that post was an act of passion. I take extreme offence when people act as if Christianity and Islam are on the same level. That Christians are ‘the real terrorists’ for having our military protect our nation and the rights of it’s people. Why? I suppose because ‘unaggressive’ Muslims don’t like that we are compozed and that we don’t drive planes into mosques in retaliation. The don’t like the idea that perhaps their religion IS inherently violent and intolerant.

I have seen horrible things of the Muslim world. I have seen stonings, female mutilations. Barbarism. And yet you have people claiming it is a ‘peaceful religion’. You see the reality is that it is not peaceful and not a religion. It is a violent, sadistic cult. Satanic. Demonic. My heart goes out to the children forced into this ‘religion’. Children indoctrinated and trained to kill in the name of some truly strange (and fake) God.

“Though Shallt Not Kill” - Exodus 20:13. Maybe the ‘peaceful’ Islamists should take a page out of our scriptures instead.

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First of all, here’s the news of the day.

Secondly, I’m in Amsterdam right now, and I invite all the ones who doubt the benefits of multiculturalism to visit the town. I’m serious!

For those it may concern: I’m sorry for linking American foreign policy to modern-day terrorism. The debate shouldn’t be there. It’s indeed some ideology that’s the driving force.

Bill, I’ll get back to you later.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
<<< I just skimmed it, but I’m sure they’ve called you every name under the sun and told you you’re not a “real” american by now. >>>

I didn’t. I told him he wasn’t a real Muslim. Unless I am to disregard the whole of historical Muslim thought until pretty recently.

How’s this? I am now declaring myself a Muslim as well. I believe that Spiderman is Allah and Richard Simmons is Mohammad. Caspar Wyoming is my Mecca, but I pray naked standing straight up facing the north pole. If somebody can’t see that in the Qur’an that’s their problem.

Don’t start with me about how that is not Islam. This is 2009 and anything can be anything I say.

Good ol’ Trib, I’m so surprised you were one of the people calling names! It’s cool. I’ve had a few people on here tell me I’m “not christian” because I don’t buy their version of Christianity too.

And as I recall you’ve been busy saying the POTUS is an enemy of america or somesuch too, right? Posters like you are one of the reasons I love this board. I honestly don’t know where else I could learn about this sort of “thinking.”

Mind if I ask how you know so much about the Muslim faith? Where did you study? Was it at jihadwatch . com like some of our other favorite posters? No wait, let me guess, you often broke bread with a Muslim scholar, right?

I didn’t call anyone any names. I don’t know this guy, but I do know if he is opposed to Jihad he is opposed to historic Islam. It’s been along time, but I guarantee you I’ve done more study on Islam in one day than you have in your whole life.

There was no WWW in the 80’s, not as we know it now so no jihadwatch.com. Oh yeah, I stand firmly by everything I’ve said about Obama and see my views vindicated daily.

Just to make sure I’m straight on this, you claim to an expert in the Muslim faith because of some study you did in the 1980s? So much an expert, in fact, that you can tell a practicing Muslim if he is or is not “a real Muslim.” Is this right?

How’s your knowledge of the Christian faith? Any better? Could you let me know if I’m a “real Christian” or not? I’m curious.

It doesn’t take an expert to know either one of those things. All it takes is a willingness to allow the historical teachings of those religions to speak for themselves. [/quote]

Interesting “thinking”! Let’s make sure I’m understanding you. You are arguing that one need not be an expert in a faith to know the “historical teachings of religions.” Is this right? Further, those non-expert understandings of “historical teachings” are sufficient to determine whether someone is or is not a “real” member of a faith. Thus, because of all of this, you believe your earlier statements were not childish name calling, but adult debate. Is this right?

Now I assume you know a lot more about me than you do about this new PWI poster, as such, could you answer my question? In your non-expert-yet-sufficient opinion, am I a “real” christian? I’m still curious.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
First of all, here’s the news of the day.

Secondly, I’m in Amsterdam right now, and I invite all the ones who doubt the benefits of multiculturalism to visit the town. I’m serious!

For those it may concern: I’m sorry for linking American foreign policy to modern-day terrorism. The debate shouldn’t be there. It’s indeed some ideology that’s the driving force.

Bill, I’ll get back to you later.[/quote]

Naked move there… hey everyone… c’mon on in. I’d love to walk in, with my fucking boots on, and my wife in a skirt.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
<<< I just skimmed it, but I’m sure they’ve called you every name under the sun and told you you’re not a “real” american by now. >>>

I didn’t. I told him he wasn’t a real Muslim. Unless I am to disregard the whole of historical Muslim thought until pretty recently.

How’s this? I am now declaring myself a Muslim as well. I believe that Spiderman is Allah and Richard Simmons is Mohammad. Caspar Wyoming is my Mecca, but I pray naked standing straight up facing the north pole. If somebody can’t see that in the Qur’an that’s their problem.

Don’t start with me about how that is not Islam. This is 2009 and anything can be anything I say.

Good ol’ Trib, I’m so surprised you were one of the people calling names! It’s cool. I’ve had a few people on here tell me I’m “not christian” because I don’t buy their version of Christianity too.

And as I recall you’ve been busy saying the POTUS is an enemy of america or somesuch too, right? Posters like you are one of the reasons I love this board. I honestly don’t know where else I could learn about this sort of “thinking.”

Mind if I ask how you know so much about the Muslim faith? Where did you study? Was it at jihadwatch . com like some of our other favorite posters? No wait, let me guess, you often broke bread with a Muslim scholar, right?

I didn’t call anyone any names. I don’t know this guy, but I do know if he is opposed to Jihad he is opposed to historic Islam. It’s been along time, but I guarantee you I’ve done more study on Islam in one day than you have in your whole life.

There was no WWW in the 80’s, not as we know it now so no jihadwatch.com. Oh yeah, I stand firmly by everything I’ve said about Obama and see my views vindicated daily.

Just to make sure I’m straight on this, you claim to an expert in the Muslim faith because of some study you did in the 1980s? So much an expert, in fact, that you can tell a practicing Muslim if he is or is not “a real Muslim.” Is this right?

How’s your knowledge of the Christian faith? Any better? Could you let me know if I’m a “real Christian” or not? I’m curious.

It doesn’t take an expert to know either one of those things. All it takes is a willingness to allow the historical teachings of those religions to speak for themselves.

Interesting “thinking”! Let’s make sure I’m understanding you. You are arguing that one need not be an expert in a faith to know the “historical teachings of religions.” Is this right? Further, those non-expert understandings of “historical teachings” are sufficient to determine whether someone is or is not a “real” member of a faith. Thus, because of all of this, you believe your earlier statements were not childish name calling, but adult debate. Is this right?

Now I assume you know a lot more about me than you do about this new PWI poster, as such, could you answer my question? In your non-expert-yet-sufficient opinion, am I a “real” christian? I’m still curious.

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Its really not that complex… does the catholic chruch support abortion? No. Have they preached against it for decades? Yes.

Follow the logic trail.

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[quote]destroyedquads wrote:

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“welcome to the party, pal.”

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More news of the day:

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-11-08-voa5.cfm

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
More news of the day:

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-11-08-voa5.cfm

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You’re clearly taking that out of context… lol

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
<<< am I a “real” christian? I’m still curious.
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In short, no.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:
The BBC’s Imogen Foulkes, who visited a mosque in Zurich, says the many non-Muslims who came enjoyed themselves. [/quote]

That is because the imam gave STRICT instructions beforehand that no one would say “Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.”

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[quote]destroyedquads wrote

I don’t know if you are religious, but i am a devout Christian. Perhaps I came off as too rough and aggressive in my post. Perhaps my swearing or the way i worded some things made me sound like I disagree with my own religion… I don’t know. But what I do know is that post was an act of passion. I take extreme offence when people act as if Christianity and Islam are on the same level. That Christians are ‘the real terrorists’ for having our military protect our nation and the rights of it’s people. Why? I suppose because ‘unaggressive’ Muslims don’t like that we are compozed and that we don’t drive planes into mosques in retaliation. The don’t like the idea that perhaps their religion IS inherently violent and intolerant.

I have seen horrible things of the Muslim world. I have seen stonings, female mutilations. Barbarism. And yet you have people claiming it is a ‘peaceful religion’. You see the reality is that it is not peaceful and not a religion. It is a violent, sadistic cult. Satanic. Demonic. My heart goes out to the children forced into this ‘religion’. Children indoctrinated and trained to kill in the name of some truly strange (and fake) God.

“Though Shallt Not Kill” - Exodus 20:13. Maybe the ‘peaceful’ Islamists should take a page out of our scriptures instead.[/quote]

What you’ve seen, most of the people in this country choose not to see. They look the other way. They will continue to do so no matter what happens.

Our government has no interest in protecting us from Islam. It has us pouring billions into the pockets of Muslims overseas whilst letting them move here and build mosques in droves which are used to preach hate against the kuffar (us). I saw a figure stating that 80% of the mosques in the US are funded by Saudi Arabia, not exactly known for its religious freedom.

I am a Christian, and I was in the military. I can’t, in good conscience, recommend the same course of action to any of my children or relatives. It would be akin to offering them to Molech.

Our government does not fight wars that have a purpose and does not fight in a way to win. It lets the enemy move here and then vilifies those who speak out against the spread of Islam.

It’s high time we let the government dig up the people to fight its own wars. We will have enough wars to fight of our own right here when more Muslims move here and start imposing their views and ways on everyone else. As Samuel Huntington put it, “Islam has bloody borders.” It matters not where those borders are, whether in the US or abroad.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
First of all, here’s the news of the day.

Secondly, I’m in Amsterdam right now, and I invite all the ones who doubt the benefits of multiculturalism to visit the town. I’m serious!

For those it may concern: I’m sorry for linking American foreign policy to modern-day terrorism. The debate shouldn’t be there. It’s indeed some ideology that’s the driving force.

Bill, I’ll get back to you later.[/quote]

…multiculturalism may benefit the immigrant, but how does it benefit the host society?

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[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
<<< What you’ve seen, most of the people in this country choose not to see. They look the other way. They will continue to do so no matter what happens.

Our government has no interest in protecting us from Islam. It has us pouring billions into the pockets of Muslims overseas whilst letting them move here and build mosques in droves which are used to preach hate against the kuffar (us). I saw a figure stating that 80% of the mosques in the US are funded by Saudi Arabia, not exactly known for its religious freedom.

I am a Christian, and I was in the military. I can’t, in good conscience, recommend the same course of action to any of my children or relatives. It would be akin to offering them to Molech.

Our government does not fight wars that have a purpose and does not fight in a way to win. It lets the enemy move here and then vilifies those who speak out against the spread of Islam.

It’s high time we let the government dig up the people to fight its own wars. We will have enough wars to fight of our own right here when more Muslims move here and start imposing their views and ways on everyone else. As Samuel Huntington put it, “Islam has bloody borders.” It matters not where those borders are, whether in the US or abroad.
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I will even go so far as to agree that it is self defeating to fight an enemy overseas with one hand while extending him direct access to our homeland with the other. Of course many horrified bleeding heart types will hasten to point ot that our war is not with Islam, but only with extremists. That is just false. Historically authentic Islam is at war with the whole rest of the world, the great satan United States being it’s chief target. Oh how they must sneer at our limp wristed quest for tolerance by which we accept and welcome their religion right into our midst. The must look at each other dumbfounded saying “we didn’t didn’t even have to employ any deception in this war, they’re doin to themselves”.

BTW, this has nothing to do with race or ethnicity, at least to me. I’m on record everywhere in these forums regarding my views on immigration and race. This is an entirely separate issue.

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[quote]ephrem wrote:
lixy wrote:
First of all, here’s the news of the day.

Secondly, I’m in Amsterdam right now, and I invite all the ones who doubt the benefits of multiculturalism to visit the town. I’m serious!

For those it may concern: I’m sorry for linking American foreign policy to modern-day terrorism. The debate shouldn’t be there. It’s indeed some ideology that’s the driving force.

Bill, I’ll get back to you later.

…multiculturalism may benefit the immigrant, but how does it benefit the host society?

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What’s this!!! Is it possible you and I agree on something? =]

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[quote]orion wrote:
pat wrote:

The amygdala is responsible for the fight or flight response and feelings of fear negtive emotional associations…It deals mainly with fear. People with GAD or Panic disorder have their origins in this part of the brain. Ironically, low testosterone levels are associated with increase dopamine production in the amygdala which causes an increase in fear, or irrational anxiety. Raising testosterone levels in these individuals will decrease the dopamine levels in the amygdala and hencse decrease fear and anxiety. It may also explain why high T people tend to be fearless…

/hijack.

I thought that one of the reasons why anxiety lowers testosterone is because cortisol and testosterone share the same precursors and therefore more cortisol means less testosterone and vice versa?

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Anxiety lowers testosterone because it puts the body under extreme duress. It’s the same physiological factors that result from extreme, prolonged stress. This becomes a self fulfilling cycle as the lowered testosterone increases dopamine production and reducing efficacy and number of synapses. This in turn feeds the anxiety until it pretty much has a life of it’s own.
You know you suffer from GAD when you are anxious and paranoid for no external reason.
I think a lot of people on SSRI’s would be better served by having the testosterone levels brought in to check.
The more I have researched the more depression and anxiety are correlated with low T…