China's Dangerous Lies about Everything

…the restrictions could ease up if tens of thousands of people had been purged and herd immunity had been reached in a brutal survival of the fittest method. The lies are about the numbers of dead, which would make the Chinese government look bad.

You’ve mentioned this a bunch of times now, but I’m not sure you get what the lies are about. They could tell the truth about restrictions easing while still lying about how many people died. With a super low death rate, and a government imposed lockdown that supposedly saved everyone, the lies greatly benefit them.

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Isn’t western intelligence the deep state? I believe he approved of a tweet saying they were tyrants and then called FBI agents scum. I’m sure other examples out there.

Jesus. The collective of this thread must be ‘bunch of boring cunts’. Sorry brothers but it is what it is and that’s all it is.

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I’m on a 4 hour conference call with 27 people. I’m bored af right now.

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Life is too short for that shit mate, pretend you have a bad reception and do something more worthwhile instead like drinking yourself to death

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Nothing else makes sense, considering that contracting Coronavirus is a death sentence and errybody is going to get it soon.

Good call! I have a bottle of this in my drawer, and I’m the only one in the office.

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I’m watching Enter The Dragon whilst pissed. Shortly I expect I shall be going into the garage kicking the shit out of the heavy bag thinking I’m fighting Bolo.

Fuck you Mr Han Man, and Coronavirus

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(Emphasized “mentioned”).

Ah what a difference a tribal win makes.

You know what is really sad about this tragedy?

It will all come out as some bizarre “win” for Trump.

How do I know that? The narrative of actual events; and what he has done and not done; is being twisted and rewritten even as events are still unfolding.

The “Wartime President” my ass.

MAGA.

4 more years.

Since Pat hijacked his own thread some time ago, I want to mention some ironies about this “Wartime President” thing:

  1. President’s will always find themselves involved in wars and conflicts; but history considers our last true wartime President to be FDR…who ironically is voted over and over again by Conservatives to be one of our worst President’s ever.

  2. Why you might ask? Because of using the power of government to lift Americans out of dire economic circumstances; put them back to work; and to boost overall economic output and production.

Sound familiar? What a useless Liberal that damn FDR was, supporting Americans and getting them back to work during times of crisis!

Oh…wait…

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Who will believe the edited version? I believe enough normal people are seeing his indecisiveness, flip flopping, self-serving blather and inane Tweets for what they really are. When you have his press conferences juxtaposed with those of Cuomo, you can see a real difference in leadership during a crisis. You have Trump saying he wants to open the country up by Easter, as if he is negotiating with a virus and giving it a deadline or ultimatum, and Cuomo saying he doesn’t want to see his mother or anyone else’s mother die.

And now you have Trump changing his tune, again, saying the virus is worse than the flu and things will be tough for longer than he originally said. Of course he adds that he knew that all along. Normal people don’t hear that and think he’s a leader; they think he is full of shit.

Hey…you’re preaching to the choir, @zecarlo

The man is truly Teflon…mark my words.

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If the numbers of dead are as high, even on the low end, as projected, he might not be as invulnerable as we think. He is already saying that if fewer than 200,000 people die it will be a sign of his successful leadership. He’s trying to do damage control ahead of time. You don’t go from, it’s just the flu to 200,000 deaths is a good thing. It’s also kind of sick because one person dying is a sad thing. Yeah, people die all the time but most have people who mourn as a result.

Kobe Bryant died not that long ago and it was a sad moment for a lot of people who never even met him. Did we say, people die all the time in car crashes, plane crashes, helicopter crashes, so what’s the big deal? So to somehow look at 200,000 deaths as being a sign of something positive is strange, regardless of the inevitability of it or the potential of it having been worse. I mean, have we now entered a place where spinning that many deaths into a heroic narrative for our leader is acceptable? I don’t think many feel that way. I don’t think they interpret 200,000 deaths as an accomplishment for a president to brag about.

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@zecarlo…this is a good time to post one of my favorite “Captain Miller” quotes from “Saving Private Ryan”:

… “We have crossed some strange boundary here. The world has taken a turn for the surreal…”

Well, from what I’ve seen in the right wing media, it’s a multi pronged strategy focusing on the following talking points:

  • No one could have predicted it

  • Evil Chinese were concealing the real numbers (see OP)

  • Dems distracted Trump with impeachment

  • Supposed failure of D governors

  • Cuomo something something ventilators (this currently seems to be the go-to catchphrase, akin to Clinton and Uranium One, designed to trigger a strong emotional response where in six months time no one from the base will remember what exactly happened)

  • Myth of decisive leadership by rewriting history and focusing on the China flight ban

  • Name dropping major companies in daily briefings as a sop to what the GOP once was (we’ve got Google aboard! A new app!)

Of course, these talking points often contradict themselves and they’re constantly evolving

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Underrated, lost in the cacophony.

This one is kind of bizarre, @loppar

Didn’t Trump also accuse (or infer) that New York Hospitals were stealing…or selling on the black market…(I’m confused as to what Trump’s accusation was)…mask that he had sent?

Pretty much going to take credit for saying he passed the biggest relief bill in American history. We may bitch and moan about it but people wanted financial relief just like the last time. Nothing is worse for a politician than “doing nothing” in a crisis.

While Pelosi and Shumer do this:

You, sir, have excellent taste.

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