[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Do you think she will be honest on those forms?
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She will be honest and truthful as she sees it; and it will have about the same percentage of fact as most of the evidence introduced before any other court here in the US.
Consider that we don’t have a legal system any longer; we have a legal industry.
[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Do you think she will be honest on those forms?
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She will be honest and truthful as she sees it; and it will have about the same percentage of fact as most of the evidence introduced before any other court here in the US.
Consider that we don’t have a legal system any longer; we have a legal industry.
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Exactly. This guy is trying to fight a fully equipped Navy Seal, with a long bow and one hand tied behind his back.
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[quote]LoRez wrote:
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[quote]Highjumper wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
http://www.change.org/petitions/ulster-county-social-services-remove-amy-greene-as-a-social-case-worker[/quote]
Signed[/quote]
Yeah I did as well. There is no possible scenario in which that woman’s behavior could be construed as professional and appropriate.[/quote]
Do you care about the kid or do you care about “his” side?
He was deemed unfit for overnight rights. Then watched the kid for 8 hours, and within that 8 hour time frame a 7 year old kid complained of her heart hurting as you fed her mcdonalds and soda? Ignorant to whether the soda you gave a 7 year old (On meds) has caffeine or not. Do you normally pass judgement from one side of an argument? Do you know if this is the 100th time he’s made this complaint using a possible simple minded argument?
I’ve yet to meet ONE person in a job atmosphere who doesn’t get frustrated repeating the same shit over and over as someone is making a dumbass complaint.
And lets be real Chris Brown, Ike and numerous others denied in writing they ever touched their spouses until solid indisputable proof came out.[/quote]
I didn’t sign the petition on the basis that the father was right. I’m not really supporting his position. Soda and chicken nuggets weren’t a good choice; but… home cooked chicken nuggets and juice aren’t any better (which was her suggestion.)
I signed it on the basis that her behavior was unfit for a professional.[/quote]
If this was usual behavior, or behavior on her first encounter with him then I would totally agree. But I don’t know if that’s the case. This may be a complaint that’s been re-open 50 times, at some point a person would become frustrated. I also don’t think anything nutrition related should ever come out her mouth.[/quote]
Same with me. I don’t know the dad or the girl, but it pisses me off seeing anyone behave like such an elitist, devoid of respect. Not to mention this very obese woman feeling qualified to pass off her absurd nutrition advice as a good idea is infuriating. I would want to see anyone like that reprimanded.
Really has zero to do with “one side of the story”. I got both sides of the story as they were both talking on the film. In fact I got mostly her side of the story lol; she did the most speaking.
Also I’m not sure you even know what his “complaint” was. They didn’t talk about it in the video. He went there because someone found his daughter wandering around by herself outside of a locked apartment crying with the mother nowhere in sight. It doesn’t really sound like the most dumbass complaint I can think of.
That’s kind of moot though. All I’m going off of is that one video. I’m not trying to expand outside of the realm of what I have seen with my own eyes. That woman is horribly biased and despicably unprofessional and it offends my sensibilities to even see her in any kind of position of power over another human being. I didn’t see behavior in the video from the man to warrant such attitudes.
I don’t even know why I’m trying to explain my anger though. I am 99% sure you just came on here to do a little devil’s advocate internet arguing to cure your boredom.
[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
I originally glanced through the video, now I’m actually listening to it. I signed the petition yesterday.
Most of her statements are too ridiculous to repeat.
Honestly, he did not do a very good job defending his position. He pretty much sat there and took it, then whined about it afterward. Instead of challenging her statements to the point that they were broken down and shown to be as ridiculous as they were, he allowed her to believe she “won”, which positively reinforces her behavior.
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How do you argue with the person that controls whether you get to see your daughter or not?[/quote]
Looking at the meeting from a legal standpoint, his goal is to make sure that the documentation works in his favor.
By not challenging her, he’s “allowed” her to write down those assessments as truth, in the notes that will be presented to the court. Most likely she will leave out several facts and summarize it as “father is not concerned about child’s health and wellbeing”, elaborating on “is encouraging an eating disorder” and on some variant of “scaring the child [via allegedly reading off side effects of the drugs]” and “actively working against doctor’s orders”.
A bunch of things that make him look bad, that will be in official documents.
Those are the things he should have challenged.
Because based on what she probably wrote, that meeting probably made things worse for him.[/quote]
I think you completely miss the point of the meeting.
This meeting was held to ‘correct’ the father’s behavior. It has already been determined that his actions were ‘incorrect’, that point is not up for debate at this time, and arguing with CPS (or even worse…acting like you don’t get it) only digs the hole deeper. CPS is not a neutral party! This guy hands them the bat to beat him with.
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In that case, I did completely miss the point of the meeting.
I thought this was basically:
I get errors, and then when it works, it triple posted.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
I get errors, and then when it works, it triple posted.[/quote]
Ya, hopefully it’s fixed. Mod Jump’N Jack said they were on it!
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
I get errors, and then when it works, it triple posted.[/quote]
Ya, hopefully it’s fixed. Mod Jump’N Jack said they were on it![/quote]
That’s cool. I can actually read stuff on the site again – I was getting errors doing almost anything. Good job support team.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Agreed, how has this guy not snapped. [/quote]
Not sure, perhaps the fact he knew he was getting such unbelievably good footage of their misconduct allowed him to keep his nerve?
[quote]bmn wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Agreed, how has this guy not snapped. [/quote]
Not sure, perhaps the fact he knew he was getting such unbelievably good footage of their misconduct allowed him to keep his nerve?[/quote]
I can’t figure out why the guy waited 2 years to post it. Is the date on that camera wrong?
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]bmn wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Agreed, how has this guy not snapped. [/quote]
Not sure, perhaps the fact he knew he was getting such unbelievably good footage of their misconduct allowed him to keep his nerve?[/quote]
I can’t figure out why the guy waited 2 years to post it. Is the date on that camera wrong?[/quote]
he’s been through all sorts of hearings over those 2 years. The court eventually through out all the allegations made in the video as bullshit, so I guess he was waiting until he was completely in the clear. Although he doesn’t’ perform so greatly in the video, I think he’s probably slightly stunned by what’s happening and he’s upped him game a lot once he figured out that normal rules, logic and basic decency don’t apply in family courts.
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…and he’s upped his game a lot once he figured out that normal rules, logic and basic decency don’t apply in family courts.[/quote]
Or any other court for that matter…
[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
[quote]bmn wrote:
…and he’s upped his game a lot once he figured out that normal rules, logic and basic decency don’t apply in family courts.[/quote]
Or any other court for that matter…
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The Family Courts have their very own special level of ultra craziness, secrecy and corruption. There’s no shortage of problems with the rest of the legal system, but the family courts make them look quite respectable in relative terms. It’s a completely parallel universe.