[quote]super saiyan wrote:
It’s alleged that the safety net was designed by a former employee known simply as Jigsaw.[/quote]
I was thinking that if I went in the first thing I’d do would be chuck the kid up onto the net, but if the thing’s essentially a trampoline, then fuck that
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
i still refuse to believe that the dogs immediately ripped him apart as soon as he hit the deck, there had to have been a period where they were approaching before starting to just attack him. If someone had been in there after him, they would have bought him sometime at least.[/quote]
What you believe doesn’t matter. There were several eye-witnesses that back up the report we hear.
Besides, if these animals were used to having animal carcasses (or parts of) thrown into their enclosure, then it’s not out of the ordinary for them to react as they did, thinking the child was food.
Well, given that there were things to fend the dogs off with, I probably would have jumped in without thinking. Probably even if I were just there and saw the whole thing happen, and it wasn’t my kid.
If I actually stepped back and thought about it, I might not have done it… but this isn’t one of those things I wouldn’t have put much thought into.
Sort of: “nobody else is there for that child, I guess I’ve got to do something”
I know… poor taste.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Nards is on Team Common Sense.[/quote]
Thanks!
I also think my dogs could kill me if they were hungry enough.
But it is funny as mentioned before…we humans may not have much in the way of physical strength in comparison to most all animals of roughly equal size…but we are smart. One of us helped make a bomb that would kill all them animals!!! THEY BLOW UP REAL GOOD!! WOO HOO!!!
[quote]Nards wrote:
But it is funny as mentioned before…we humans may not have much in the way of physical strength in comparison to most all animals of roughly equal size.[/quote]
I think that’s a misconception. And it’s mostly related to how weak the average sedentary fat person or ectomorphic jogger is. Humans, pound for pound, are extremely strong relative to other mammals. People say shit about chimps and gorillas or whatever, but they never stop and think that maybe primates are just really fucking strong, but most animals aren’t (relatively speaking). And even then, the strength of primates relative to humans is GROSSLY overstated most of the time.
Most animals are only scary because they either outnumber you, are way huger than you, or they have enormous teeth and claws and spikes and razor blades and shit all over them. Imagine a 200lb leopard that’s wearing a muzzle and has been declawed. All the sudden it would be helpless to harm me.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
But it is funny as mentioned before…we humans may not have much in the way of physical strength in comparison to most all animals of roughly equal size.[/quote]
I think that’s a misconception. And it’s mostly related to how weak the average sedentary fat person or ectomorphic jogger is. Humans, pound for pound, are extremely strong relative to other mammals. People say shit about chimps and gorillas or whatever, but they never stop and think that maybe primates are just really fucking strong, but most animals aren’t (relatively speaking). And even then, the strength of primates relative to humans is GROSSLY overstated most of the time.
Most animals are only scary because they either outnumber you, are way huger than you, or they have enormous teeth and claws and spikes and razor blades and shit all over them. Imagine a 200lb leopard that’s wearing a muzzle and has been declawed. All the sudden it would be helpless to harm me.[/quote]
If you’ve ever had experience working with animals, you wouldn’t be assuming what you wrote. Try working on a farm for a summer. Even harmless domestic animals like young bovine will pull you around like you’re a small child.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
If you’ve ever had experience working with animals, you wouldn’t be assuming what you wrote. Try working on a farm for a summer. Even harmless domestic animals like young bovine will pull you around like you’re a small child. [/quote]
LOL, that makes sense coming from you.
Sorry, had to do it.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
If you’ve ever had experience working with animals, you wouldn’t be assuming what you wrote. Try working on a farm for a summer. Even harmless domestic animals like young bovine will pull you around like you’re a small child. [/quote]
Well I dunno, I was with a girl once who was really into horses and I sort of did spend a summer on a farm. One time I remember we were moving a colt, who was probably close to my weight or a bit heavier, and she put a really long lead rope on him, but he was very obstinate not to go anywhere. I tied a knot in the rope so my hand could rest against it, and we had ourselves a little tug of war. He planted his hooves and tugged and all that. I held the rope with one hand and held onto the fence post with the other hand and I was able to pull that sucker head over hoof.
I guess if I hadn’t been holding onto the fence I would never have been able to keep my balance, but still… With one arm I was able to pull it around like it was a child, not the other way round!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
But it is funny as mentioned before…we humans may not have much in the way of physical strength in comparison to most all animals of roughly equal size.[/quote]
I think that’s a misconception. And it’s mostly related to how weak the average sedentary fat person or ectomorphic jogger is. Humans, pound for pound, are extremely strong relative to other mammals. People say shit about chimps and gorillas or whatever, but they never stop and think that maybe primates are just really fucking strong, but most animals aren’t (relatively speaking). And even then, the strength of primates relative to humans is GROSSLY overstated most of the time.
Most animals are only scary because they either outnumber you, are way huger than you, or they have enormous teeth and claws and spikes and razor blades and shit all over them. Imagine a 200lb leopard that’s wearing a muzzle and has been declawed. All the sudden it would be helpless to harm me.[/quote]
If you’ve ever had experience working with animals, you wouldn’t be assuming what you wrote. Try working on a farm for a summer. Even harmless domestic animals like young bovine will pull you around like you’re a small child. [/quote]
in a previous post i wrote about this and the reason why there is the misconception
keep in mind that a 3 month old calf can weigh upto 100kg/220lbs so it is by no means a small animal.
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
in a previous post i wrote about this and the reason why there is the misconception
keep in mind that a 3 month old calf can weigh upto 100kg/220lbs so it is by no means a small animal.[/quote]
I’d still take that fucker on. HUMANS!!! FUCK YEAH!!!
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
If you’ve ever had experience working with animals, you wouldn’t be assuming what you wrote. Try working on a farm for a summer. Even harmless domestic animals like young bovine will pull you around like you’re a small child. [/quote]
Well I dunno, I was with a girl once who was really into horses and I sort of did spend a summer on a farm. One time I remember we were moving a colt, who was probably close to my weight or a bit heavier, and she put a really long lead rope on him, but he was very obstinate not to go anywhere. I tied a knot in the rope so my hand could rest against it, and we had ourselves a little tug of war. He planted his hooves and tugged and all that. I held the rope with one hand and held onto the fence post with the other hand and I was able to pull that sucker head over hoof.
I guess if I hadn’t been holding onto the fence I would never have been able to keep my balance, but still… With one arm I was able to pull it around like it was a child, not the other way round![/quote]
Good thing three or four of them weren’t trying to bite the shit out of you…
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
If you’ve ever had experience working with animals, you wouldn’t be assuming what you wrote. Try working on a farm for a summer. Even harmless domestic animals like young bovine will pull you around like you’re a small child. [/quote]
Well I dunno, I was with a girl once who was really into horses and I sort of did spend a summer on a farm. One time I remember we were moving a colt, who was probably close to my weight or a bit heavier, and she put a really long lead rope on him, but he was very obstinate not to go anywhere. I tied a knot in the rope so my hand could rest against it, and we had ourselves a little tug of war. He planted his hooves and tugged and all that. I held the rope with one hand and held onto the fence post with the other hand and I was able to pull that sucker head over hoof.
I guess if I hadn’t been holding onto the fence I would never have been able to keep my balance, but still… With one arm I was able to pull it around like it was a child, not the other way round![/quote]
That’s not proof of superior strength. You used two external man-made advantages (the rope and the post) to control the animal.
[quote]roybot wrote:
That’s not proof of superior strength. You used two external man-made advantages (the rope and the post) to control the animal. [/quote]
Well the rope isn’t a mechanical advantage lol. The post was I suppose. Still wasn’t that impressed with the horse.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
That’s not proof of superior strength. You used two external man-made advantages (the rope and the post) to control the animal. [/quote]
Well the rope isn’t a mechanical advantage lol. The post was I suppose.[/quote]
Of course it is. Why do you think people even use ropes and reigns on animals if they don’t offer a mechanical advantage?
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
That’s not proof of superior strength. You used two external man-made advantages (the rope and the post) to control the animal. [/quote]
Well the rope isn’t a mechanical advantage lol. The post was I suppose.[/quote]
Of course it is. Why do you think people even use ropes and reigns on animals if they don’t offer a mechanical advantage?
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Rope just links things together. If you set up a pulley, no one calls the rope a mechanical advantage, it’s the wheel system in the pulley that is the mechanical advantage. I’m not sure you’re really thinking about this. I guess you could say that the horse had the advantage of the rope too lol. How else was he going to “hold on” to me? Haha.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
That’s not proof of superior strength. You used two external man-made advantages (the rope and the post) to control the animal. [/quote]
Well the rope isn’t a mechanical advantage lol. The post was I suppose.[/quote]
Of course it is. Why do you think people even use ropes and reigns on animals if they don’t offer a mechanical advantage?
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Rope just links things together. If you set up a pulley, no one calls the rope a mechanical advantage, it’s the wheel system in the pulley that is the mechanical advantage. I’m not sure you’re really thinking about this. I guess you could say that the horse had the advantage of the rope too lol. How else was he going to “hold on” to me? Haha.[/quote]
Reins are basically ropes.
See what I did there?
Oh maybe this could help you think about it. Imagine deadlifting a bar, and now imagine there are rope handles on the bar and deadlifting it with those. The rope isn’t somehow requiring you to use less force, it’s simply a different means of linking you with something else through your hands.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Reins are basically ropes.
See what I did there?
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Actually I don’t 
A horse and bovine are prey animals. Not really comparable. Bulldogging a calf doesn’t take much strength at all though, you just hang on and bam, calf on the ground helpless. That works on calves, beeves, steers, (a recalcitrant milk cow if needed as well) and bulls if one is ballsy enough. If you really think a calf is a badass animal you should get out more.
Seriously, go wave a stick at a cow. Better yet, pick up a pebble, and throw it at a big mean horse. Make sure you point when you throw it, you will own that horse. Moving animals generally isn’t a tough thing to do… But if you aren’t used to it then I understand it would be scary/tougher.