Thanks for that reply. That does make sense. I would imagine that those who do not think it a priority to verify the quality of the powders to begin with will therefore purchase the cheaper products.
I think I’m of the opinion that I would prefer a company to do periodic testing on shipments of powders that they receive. I would just assume that is what most companies would do. At least in the beginning stages and periodically to verify their supplier is still good.
Chemone,
Is there not a reason to be concerned with these powders? Is there reason to believe that the issue that was mentioned above was not an issue or is not something that can be repeated?
Is there not a reason to be concerned with these powders? Is there reason to believe that the issue that was mentioned above was not an issue or is not something that can be repeated?
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Our mistake was assuming the vendor - the same vendor used by countless UG’s as well as other RC companies - was sending us good stuff. It was not a dosing issue. It was a powder issue.
Lion experienced problems with their clen at about the same time that we started making product before we opened.
Is ChemOne perfect? Absolutely not. No business is. Do we try and learn from our mistakes? You bet.
All I can say is that if we were truly trying to scam anyone we would have ignored the 10% of the clen buyers that said the clen seemed under dosed. We would not have come out in front of this offering a 2-1 refund.
In retrospect, I think that the 2-1 offer turned out to be a bit of a two-edged sword. On the one hand - we wanted to make it right with the customers that spent their money on our products. On the other hand - we exposed ourself to those that want to see us fail, and gave them plenty of fodder.
All in all though, we will do it again if anything we sale is not what it is advertised to be. Our first, and only, responsibility is to the customer.
To that end, we are currently testing all of our powders.
Re: The staff/Contributor I had inadvertantly said was approached by ChemOne.
He said what I said he did, on the phone, and said he was approached by you first. What he meant was (apparently) that he ordered, then you approached him Via Pm, before he’d ever spoken to you. On the phone he simply said he was offered free stuff to him, via pm.
That was (apparently, as he didn’t tell me) after he ordered. None of that particularly concerns me, however, as I related the events as I was told them, and he neglected originally to tell me (on the phone) that he had ordered first (or at all).
I understood and posted something that was (as I said already) relayed to me- too bad it was relayed partially.
That particular person, by the way, will never patronize ChemOne ever again, due to their actions here.
In addition this does not mean that people affiliated with ChemOne haven’t tried to promote their products on EF or S.com, where I have received reports of same. This may be them directly, or simply “bros” who feel like they ought to help their “bros” out, and not at the request of ChemOne directly. But it is being done, and has resulted in ChemOne having their name ******'ed out on steroid.com and other boards are following suit, I’m told.
I can empathize with hooker’s thinking that I acted as a hypocrite in slamming him for pimping AG and lion and then turning around and doing the very same thing I slammed him for.
He has used quotes from me to attempt to show his reaasoning. And if I were reading it for the first time, i would agree with hooker.
But - If one were to look at the chronology of the quotes, it would become very apparent that they are out of sequence.
And in my defense -when I said those things, it was before I ever knew that there was even an idea about a ChemOne.
Should I have retracted my attacks on hooker regarding his pimping a chem company once I became involved with one myself? In retrospect - probably so.
Does that make me a bad person, or ChemOne a bad campany?
Not even close.
Thanks for that reply. That does make sense. I would imagine that those who do not think it a priority to verify the quality of the powders to begin with will therefore purchase the cheaper products.
I think I’m of the opinion that I would prefer a company to do periodic testing on shipments of powders that they receive. I would just assume that is what most companies would do. At least in the beginning stages and periodically to verify their supplier is still good.
Chemone,
Is there not a reason to be concerned with these powders? Is there reason to believe that the issue that was mentioned above was not an issue or is not something that can be repeated?
IBE,
Do you do periodic quality tests?[/quote]
As a matter of fact we do and we have internal quality controls when putting the powders into solution as well. We have been around for nearly three years now, though, and our source has given us no reason to question quality. Any time we add a new product to our line we have outsourced lab analysis done to assure the quality of the product. As well as with our peptides, we are now including a C of A in every shipment.
One bad batch isn’t an indication of how good a company is. If it were then GM, FORD, GOODYEAR, FIRESTONE, and about every other company that has ever recalled a product would be bankrupt. Hell, even NASA fucks up from time to time. As long as they correct their mistakes then their still a reliable company.
More like .667, or so. Yeah - we have sold a shit load of the stuff. It’s really easy when you are selling the same shit as the competitors for 4X cheaper
I’ve talked to a few members on another forum that are reps for certain supplement companies and they have told me that they need to test every batch they get. They didn’t do this right away because they assumed that they were getting good stuff. But, now they reject batches from overseas every now and then because they do get bad batches and have to send it back.
Companies starting up will learn from their mistakes, just like others, and it’ll happen less as time goes on.