[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
[quote]Tancredi wrote:
Everyone of these preambles seems to be a thanks for grace and providence and in the context of being far more cultural than religious.
Unlike some of Europe (at those times anyways) there is no claim that these governments are expressly ordained by God to do His will on earth but rather thankful in quite a few of these they do not labor under this type of holy sanction to government.
In other words this looks more like a thanks to God for the existence of secular government than an affirmation of Judeo-Christian values (whatever they may be) in government.
Well, Virginia might be the odd one out, but still.[/quote]
And here I went and gave you guys all of this background material and some actual Judeo-Christian Principles and what is the response from all those clamoring for actual principles? silence and the only other response was- well, “yes, there are religious statements in the preambles, but it was more cultural than religious”, which would lend support to the fact that Judeo-Christian principles were deeply ingrained into the colonial culture.
that’s it? ok- thanks for the win!
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You want a pat on the e-back for defining an important term in a religious discussion? Okay dude, have one internetz.
For why the rest of us stopped, see this above post:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Why is everyone looking at the political structure for these values?[/quote]
A better question would be how a thread about changes to Texas Social Studies curriculum got hijacked into an inquisition on the phrase ‘Judeo-Christian Values’ without anyone noticing.[/quote]
Because we’ve lost our Judeo-Christian values. One of them being “Do not hijack thy neighbor’s thread.” I’m guilty, too.[/quote]
You’re welcome to start your own thread on it, I suppose.