Changes in History Curriculum in Texas

I decided to let the founding father explain this to you all in their own words . . .

John Adams:

June 21, 1776
"Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand.

“The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure Virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure, than they have it now, they may change their Rulers and the forms of Government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty.”

Oct. 11, 1798 (Address to the military)

“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government ofany other.”

August 28, 1811

“Religion and virtue are the only foundations, not only of all free government, but of social felicity under all governments and in all the combinations of human society.”

In a letter to Thomas Jefferson, John Adams wrote:

“Have you ever found in history, one single example of a Nation thoroughly corrupted that was afterwards restored to virtue?.. And without virtue, there can be no political liberty…Will you tell me how to prevent riches from becoming the effects of temperance and industry? Will you tell me how to prevent luxury from producing effeminacy, intoxication, extravagance, vice and folly?..I believe no effort in favor is lost…”

December 27, 1816

“As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation.”

“Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people, who have…a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge, I mean the character and conduct of their rulers.”

John Quincy Adams

July 4, 1821

"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this; it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.

“From the day of the Declaration…they (the American people) were bound by the laws of God, which they all, and by the laws of The Gospel, which they nearly all, acknowledge as the rules of their conduct.”

July 4, 1837

“Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the World, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day. Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday ofthe Savior? That it forms a leading event in the Progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation ofthe Redeemer’s mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity and gave to the world the first irrevocable pledge of the fulfillment of the prophecies announced directly from Heaven at the birth of the Saviour and predicted by the greatest of the Hebrew prophets 600 years before.”

“I speak as a man of the world to men of the world; and I say to you, Search the Scriptures! The Bible is the book of all others, to be read at all ages, and in all conditions of human life; not to be read in small portions of one or two chapters every day, and never to be intermitted, unless by some overruling necessity.”

“Posterity–you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it.”

Fisher Ames
(Author of the First Amendment)

“Should not the Bible regain the place it once held as a schoolbook? Its morals are pure, its examples are captivating and noble…In no Book is there so good English, so pure and so elegant, and by teaching all the same they will speak alike, and the Bible will justly remain the standard of language as well as of faith.”

Sir William Blackstone
(Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Law was the recognized authority on the law for well over a century after 1776)

"Man, considered as a creature, must necessarily be subject to the laws of his Creator, for he is entirely a dependent being…And, consequently, as man depends absolutely upon his Maker for everything, it is necessary that he should in all points conform to his Maker’s will…this will of his Maker is called the law of nature. These laws laid down by God are the eternal immutable laws of good and evil…This law of nature dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity if contrary to this…

"The doctrines thus delivered we call the revealed or divine law, and they are to be found only in the holy scriptures…[and] are found upon comparison to be really part of the original law of nature. Upon these two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws; that is to say, no human laws should be suffered to contradict these.

"Blasphemy against the Almighty is denying his being or providence, or uttering contumelious reproaches on our Savior Christ. It is punished, at common law by fine and imprisonment, for Christianity is part of the laws of the land.

“If [the legislature] will positively enact a thing to be done, the judges are not at liberty to reject it, for that were to set the judicial power above that of the legislature, which should be subversive of all government.”

"The preservation of Christianity as a national religion is abstracted from its own intrinsic truth, of the utmost consequence to the civil state, which a single instance will sufficiently demonstrate.

"The belief of a future state of rewards and punishments, the entertaining just ideas of the main attributes ofthe Supreme Being, and a firm persuasion that He superintends and will finally compensate every action in human life (all which are revealed in the doctrines of our Savior, Christ), these are the grand foundations of all judicial oaths, which call God to witness the truth of those facts which perhaps may be only known to Him and the party attesting; all moral evidences, therefore, all confidence in human veracity, must be weakened by apostasy, and overthrown by total infidelity.

“Wherefore, all affronts to Christianity, or endeavors to depreciate its efficacy, in those who have once professed it, are highly deserving of censure.”

Samuel Chase
“By our form of government, the Christian religion is the established religion; and all sects and denominations of Christians are placed upon the same equal footing, and are equally entitled to protection in their religious liberty.”

Ben Franklin
Congressional Congress, 1787

"I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth–that God Governs the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?

"We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that “except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.” I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and bye word down to future ages. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing Governments by Human wisdom and leave it to chance, war and conquest.

“I therefore beg leave to move–that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessing on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate in that service.”

In 1748, as Pennsylvania’s Governor, Benjamin Franklin proposed Pennsylvania’s first Fast Day:

“It is the duty of mankind on all suitable occasions to acknowledge their dependence on the Divine Being… [that] Almighty God would mercifully interpose and still the rage of war among the nations…[and that] He would take this province under his protection, confound the designs and defeat the attempts of its enemies, and unite our hearts and strengthen our hands in every undertaking that may be for the public good, and for our defense and security in this time of danger.”

"I never doubted, for instance, the existence of the Deity; that he made the world, and governed it by his Providence; that the most acceptable service of God was the doing good to man; that our souls are immortal; and that all crime will be punished, and virtue rewarded either here or hereafter.

"Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature.

“The pleasures of this world are rather from God’s goodness than our own merit.”

Alexander Hamilton
( In Federalist No. 68)

“I now offer you the outline of the plan they have suggested. Let an association be formed to be denominated ‘The Christian Constitutional Society,’ its object to be first: The support of the Christian religion. second: The support of the United States.”

“I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man.”

Thomas Jefferson
Letter to John Taylor, May 28, 1816

“The only foundation for useful education in a republic is to be laid in religion.”
“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever.”

“To the corruptions of Christianity I am, indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others…”

“I consider the doctrines of Jesus as delivered by himself to contain the outlines of the sublimest system of morality that has ever been taught but I hold in the most profound detestation and execration the corruptions of it which have been invented…”

Irish- your post didn’t say shit. It was a collection of quotes that men said about religion, and not one of them actually said what the fuck Judeo-Christian principles are or what they mean. And for at least two- Franklin and Jefferson- tended not to believe in Christianity, with Jefferson dismissing most of it.

So I don’t know exactly what your point was. You guys are getting excellent at not answering anything except with unrelated quotes.

What are judeo-christian principles? How do they relate to this country and what it was founded on? And don’t answer me with a bullshit post full of quotations that dead men wrote about God, thank you.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Are you two pulling my leg? No, honestly, I’m asking. Let’s do it this way, since I don’t believe you guys are taking this seriously (I hope…). If posting one of these values would cause Mak to share a comic strip from his favorite atheist site, it might be a Judeo-Christian value. If Mak uses the term “Pair-bonding,” it might be a Judeo-Christian value. If Mak uses the word ‘Puritanism’, it might must be a Judeo-Christian value.

Sorry, but I’m not going to play this game. Come to the discussion honestly, or not at all. Having watched both of you often ridicule such values, you know damn well what they are.

[/quote]

No, I really don’t. I ridicule organized religion because I think it makes men stupid, but the values that everyone refers to as “Judeo-Christian” have not been explained at all on this board, and I refrained from going after them earlier in this thread because I said plainly that I’m not sure what you mean when you say that.

And all I’ve gotten in response is some mumblings about divorce rates from Sloth and some BS post filled with irrelevant quotes on organized religion.

You fuckers are acting like needy women- “Well, if you don’t know, I’m not going to tell you. You should just know.”

Push, ironically, is the only one who’s given any articles defining what those values are. Unfortunately, for you guys they’re the same values found in any civilized society. Creativity? Weren’t the Romans creative in damn near everything they did? Wasn’t the Greek democracy at least as big on equality as our own-
especially at the time of the late eighteenth century when there were no rights for slaves or women?

These values are human values, not Judeo-Christian ones, and the ideas that this country was founded on were results of the Age of Enlightenment, not any particular religious denomination.

What are you talking about? I’ve given examples of values. And, in general, they’re the same values that you’d consider to be right wing puritanism. Some of you ask “well, aren’t they also values found in other…” Stop it! The people at the founding of this country weren’t anything but, almost exclusively, Christian.

When you see quotations from the fathers extolling the virtue–no, the necessity–of the people’s religious (even naming Cristianity) virtues and values, exactly which religion do you guys imagine the people to have been?! Even the Deists (arguably an oddish Christian-Deism), such as Jefferson, are found to be praising the morals and virtues of Christ and the good book.

To confuse Jefferson’s inability to accept specific doctrines, miracles, or whatever, as a rejection of Judeo-Christian values, is a serious mistake.

And, no, they’re not human values in the sense you mean. Different humans value different things, at differing levels, if at all.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
What are Judeo-Christian values? Some of you fuckers are dumber than big black rocks when it comes to doin’ that googlin’ thing.

http://focusonjerusalem.com/whatdoesjudeo-christianmean.html

[/quote]

The first two of these links is absolutely worthless, consisting of a series of empty statements about how, since the founding fathers were predominantly Christian, and were big fans of Jusaism, and both of these faiths have values, and the founding fathers wrote the constitution, ergo, America is based on Judeo-Christian Values. They are guilty of reading into the term whatever they happen to want to at the time.

The third link provided a handy list, which I’ll post in expedited form:

[quote]TheDudeFromNewAmerica Wrote:

  1. Our sense of right and wrong and our sense of wisdom come from the use of reason and common sense, but also and importantly from the Bible, which by faith was considered by our Founding Fathers to be God’s inspired text; and not just from the mind or heart of man.

  2. Truth is Sacred; there can be no liberty or justice, and little happiness without it. Jesus connected truth and liberty when He said “the truth shall make you free.”

  3. Human life is the first gift of God, and it is of infinite value since man is made in the image of God. Judeo-Christian Values have lead to a culture of life in America, not a culture of death. Americans with Judeo-Christian Values will defend innocent God-given life.

  4. Our Liberty is a gift from God and stated so in the Declaration of Independence. It is also stated in the New Testament Christian Bible: “Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty.”

  5. Human creativity is also a gift from God and is not to be unjustly suppressed by totalitarian, tyrannical or excessively taxing government.

  6. “Establish justice.” This is commanded repeatedly in the Hebrew Bible, and this is how it has been done in America: Honor Life, Liberty and Creativity.

  7. “Hate Evil.” This is commanded three times in the Hebrew Bible; this is from the book of Proverbs: “The fear of the Lord is to hate evil.” Hear the Prophet Isaiah: “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness…”

  8. “Love your neighbor” â?? commanded in the Hebrew and Christian Bibles. “Love your enemy” â?? commanded in the New Testament Christian Bible.

  9. Sacrificial giving is a Judeo-Christian value and duty.

  10. Self-discipline, self-respect, respect for elders and for others, individual responsibility, loyalty and gratitude are Judeo-Christian Values, and also valued on other cultures.

  11. Courage is a Judeo-Christian Value, and it is also valued in other cultures. Courage can be defined as the willingness to place one’s self into harm’s way; and, if necessary, to die in defense of God-given Life and Liberty.

  12. In the Judeo-Christian Value System there is a natural and common-sense balance between compassion and courageous confrontation of evil.

  13. From Many, One: e pluribus unum. Ethnicity and race don’t matter, but values do matter.

  14. The natural resources of the Earth, including the animals, along with the rest of creation should be honored and well cared for, but also used and enjoyed; and never worshiped.[/quote]

The mistake made, in this case, is that in the parts I edited out (for brevity’s sake), he consistently compared these ‘Judeo-Christian Values’ with the values of a ‘secular europe’, as well as ‘communist’ ‘fascist’ and sometimes ‘Muslim’ values. My problem with the comparison to Europe is that, well, Europe has a longer history of being Christian than America, and the values of Judaism are, well, kinda set in stone. I guess what I’m saying is, because Christianity (and by extension, it’s Judaic basis) are so interwined in Western Civilization (that word again), by what matter of intellectual gymnastics does TheDudeFromRenewAmerica separate the Judeo-Christian Values of Europe, and those of America?

Why is everyone looking at the political structure for these values?

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Why is everyone looking at the political structure for these values?[/quote]

A better question would be how a thread about changes to Texas Social Studies curriculum got hijacked into an inquisition on the phrase ‘Judeo-Christian Values’ without anyone noticing.

[quote]Otep wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Why is everyone looking at the political structure for these values?[/quote]

A better question would be how a thread about changes to Texas Social Studies curriculum got hijacked into an inquisition on the phrase ‘Judeo-Christian Values’ without anyone noticing.[/quote]

Because we’ve lost our Judeo-Christian values. One of them being “Do not hijack thy neighbor’s thread.” I’m guilty, too.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]Otep wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Why is everyone looking at the political structure for these values?[/quote]

A better question would be how a thread about changes to Texas Social Studies curriculum got hijacked into an inquisition on the phrase ‘Judeo-Christian Values’ without anyone noticing.[/quote]

Because we’ve lost our Judeo-Christian values. One of them being “Do not hijack thy neighbor’s thread.” I’m guilty, too.[/quote]

I LOL’d.

“DO YOU KNOW THE PREAMBLE FOR YOUR STATE?”

Alabama 1901, Preamble We the people of the State of Alabama, invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution.
Alaska 1956, Preamble We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land.
Arizona 1911, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution…
Arkansas 1874, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arkansas, grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government…
California 1879, Preamble We, the People of the State of California, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom…
Colorado 1876, Preamble We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe…
Connecticut 1818, Preamble. The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy.
Delaware 1897, Preamble Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences…
Florida 1885, Preamble We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution…
Georgia 1777, Preamble We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution…
Hawaii 1959, Preamble We, the people of Hawaii, Grateful for Divine Guidance … Establish this Constitution.
Idaho 1889, Preamble We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings.
Illinois 1870, Preamble We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil , political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavor s.
Indiana 1851, Preamble We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government.
Iowa 1857, Preamble We, the People of the State of Iowa, grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings, establish this Constitution.
Kansas 1859, Preamble We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution.
Kentucky 1891, Preamble. We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties…
Louisiana 1921, Preamble We, the people of the State of Louisiana, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy.
Maine 1820, Preamble We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity… And imploring His aid and direction.
Maryland 1776, Preamble We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty…
Massachusetts 1780, Preamble We…the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction
Michigan 1908, Preamble le. We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom establish this Constitution.
Minnesota, 1857, Preamble We, the people of the State of Minnesota , grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings:
Mississippi 1890, Preamble We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Al mighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.
Missouri 1845, Preamble We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness. Establish this Constitution…
Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution…
Nebraska 1875, Preamble We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom. Establish this Constitution.
Nevada 1864, Preamble We the people of the Stat e of Nevada, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, establish this Constitution…
New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience.
New Jersey 1844, Preamble We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.
New Mexico 1911, Preamble We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty…
New York 1846, Preamble We, the people of the State of New York, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.
North Carolina 1868, Preamble We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those…
North Dakota 1889, Preamble We, the people of North Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain…
Ohio 1852, Preamble We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common…
Oklahoma 1907, Preamble Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty, establish this Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences
Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble We, the people of Pennsylvania , grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance…
Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing…
South Carolina, 1778, Preamble We, the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
South Dakota 1889, Preamble We, the people of South Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties Tennessee 1796, Art. XI.III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience…
Texas 1845, Preamble We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.
Utah 1896, Preamble Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution.
Vermont 1777, Preamble Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man.
Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other
Washington 1889, Preamble We the People of the State of Washington , grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution
West Virginia 1872, Preamble Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, t he people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God …
Wisconsin 1848, Preamble We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility…
Wyoming 1890, Preamble We, the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties, establish this Constitution…

Blackstone (foundational legal authority on which much of American government and law are based)

III. What Are the Principles of the Commentaries?

Several foundational principles are expressed in both the Judeo-Christian worldview and Blackstoneâ??s Commentaries. These principles, summarized below, reveal the extent to which American law has repudiated Blackstone.13

There are different types of law in the universe. Blackstoneâ??s classification of law into six types is foundational to the rest of his philosophy and is consistent with the Judeo-Christian system of law:
Law as the order of the universe. â??Thus when the Supreme Being formed the universe, and created matter out of nothing, He impressed certain principles upon that matter, from which it can never depart, and without which it would cease to be. When he put the matter into motion, He established certain laws of motion, to which all movable bodies must conform . . . .â??14
Law as a rule of human action. â??. . . the precepts by which man, the noblest of all sublunary beings, a creature endowed with both reason and free will, is commanded to make use of those faculties in the general regulation of his behavior.â??15
Law of nature. â??These are the eternal, immutable laws of good and evil, to which the Creator Himself in all His dispensations conforms; and which He has enabled human reason to discover, so far as they are necessary for the conduct of human actions.â??16
Revealed law. â??The doctrines . . . delivered [by an immediate and direct revelation] we call the revealed or divine law, and they are to be found only in the Holy Scriptures . . . . Upon these two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws; that is to say, no human laws should be suffered to contradict these.â??17
Law of nations. [A]s it is impossible for the whole race of mankind to be united in one great society, they must necessarily divide into many . . . . [the regulation of their interaction] is the law of nations . . . [it] depends entirely upon the rules of natural law, or upon mutual compacts, treaties, leagues, and agreements . . . .â??18
Municipal law. â??[This is] a rule of civil conduct, prescribed by the supreme power in a state, commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong.19 But no human authority can act without limits.â??20
God is the Creator of the universe, man, the very concept of law, and several universal laws; and his original Creation was ex nihilo (â??out of nothingâ??). Blackstone was certainly not an evolutionist! But the evolutionistic fervor of later legal scholars was a major force in Americaâ??s abandonment of Judeo-Christian/Blackstonian jurisprudence in the Twentieth Century.
God has built into the universe fundamental laws that are fixed, immutable, and must be obeyed.
Man is a dependent creature who is not to disobey Godâ??s fixed laws but is given free will and reason to discover and choose his actions within the limits of Godâ??s laws.
Manâ??s reason is corrupt and cannot, by itself, discover and apply Godâ??s law.
God is not only the Creator, but a Being of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness.
God created man and His fundamental laws in such a way that man can be happy only when he is obeying Godâ??s law.
Revealed law, natural law, and human law exist in a clear and inseparable relationship to one another.
The purpose of human law is to â??command what is right, prohibiting what is wrong.â??
Human law is not to violate Godâ??s law, but is to decide what are right and wrong in regard to â??things in themselves indifferentâ?? (i.e., actions that are not intrinsically right or wrong but are declared so by human lawmakers).
Human lawâ??s most effectual tool for producing right conduct and preventing wrong conduct is sanctions â?? punishment.
At the time of Creation, God gave man dominion over all the earth, but changes in society ultimately necessitated the emergence of individual property ownership.
There are three primary personal rights:
Personal security. The right â?¦consists in a personâ??s legal and uninterrupted enjoyment of his life, his limbs, his body, his health, and his reputation.21
Personal liberty. This personal liberty consists in the power of locomotion, of changing situation, or removing oneâ??s person to whatsoever place oneâ??s own inclination may direct; without imprisonment or restraint, unless by due course of law.22
Right of private property: law of the land. [This right] consists in the free use, enjoyment, and disposal [by man] of all his acquisitions, without any control or diminution, save only by the laws of the land.23

source: http://www.blackstoneinstitute.org/sirwilliamblackstone.html

OK - foundational Judeo-Christian Principles: although shared with other sources, the founding fathers statements show that they derived these principles from their Judeo-Christian Roots

  1. The law of God is the foundation for good human law
  2. Religion and Morality form the basis of Liberty
  3. The Equality of Man
  4. God-given Human Rights
  5. Government Authority derived from Consent of the Governed
  6. The Sanctity of the Contract
  7. Two Witnesses
  8. No Corruption of Blood
  9. Sunday set aside as a Holy Day
  10. Separation of Church and State
  11. Teaching the Law of Liberty to the Next Generation
  12. The Sinful Nature of Man/Division of Power

there you go - need source material or primary source references just let me know - and I can also give you chapter and verse.

Next?

Mea Culpa - Guilty of participating in the highjacking . .

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

Being founded on Christianty, and being founded on Judeo-Christian values, are two very different things. We had/have no established religion. Noone has argued that. [/quote]

I’m arguing it right now. Many states had a state religion in the 18th and early 19 century.[/quote]

Was speaking to the national level.

[quote]thefederalist wrote:
This is profoundly idiotic. [/quote]

Only in that it should be blindingly obvious. In thousands of cases throughout history when a group of people have asked for human rights they have been mercilessly denied them.

Simply look at slavery in ancient Rome and the various slave rebellions. Hell the Romans just crucified the escaped slaves. Or something like Tiananmen square. Or if you are a left winger retard you could instead look to the Palestine situation.

If white folk had so wished then when Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat the white majority could have gone as far as re-enslaving the black populace. Who would have stopped them? Nobody. Just like nobody stopped Russia from killing and enslaving millions of Ukrainians.

Fact of the matter is blacks and women attained their freedom with the support of the white majority.