Cereal, Soy Protein and Kids

[quote]basementD wrote:

My son had breast milk for the first three weeks of his life. Then my wife had to take a diagnostic test which involved radiation.

Doctors said it was okay to resume feeding, but she didn’t want to take any chances of radiation exposure to our son, so she stopped. [/quote]

Some years back my wife had to get radiation for a thyroid test. For several days she used a breast pump and threw away the tainted milk. She went back to the technician a couple of days after her thyroid test and tested herself for radiation. The technician scanned her and found her to be radiation free. She then tested some breast milk and found it to be radiation free. She then resumed feeding the baby.

Ask the OB doc office about a Lactation consultant. They are the ones who would know about milk banks.

[quote]conorh wrote:
Trigwu,
I don’t thinkyour initial assertion that prepuscent years are time for bone growth and pubescent years are times for msucle growth is correct. Prepube years are also marked by massive soft tissue growth which is not mediated by sex hormones, for the most part. To introduce sex hormones during this time and disturb the delicate HPTA seems like a greater risk than any benefit to bone growth. I’ve also never read any research about the effect of phytoestrogens on bone growth before the epiphysis have closed. I’m no steroid biochemist, but it just sounds like bad news to me.

I would much rather give kids a spoonful of cod liver oil providing them vitamins and essential fatty acids than try to encourage their growth hormonally. I don’t think they need any more than good nutrition to develope strong bones at their age.
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Just a proposal. I am not afraid to admit that most (if not all) of the people on here who have raised children know more then I (who have not). I know I avoid soy like its my job. Glad someone corrected me though. I’d love to meet a kid that can take a spoonful of straight cod liver oil, I’d be at their mercy.

I wasn’t so much correcting you, as rebutting your hypothesis. Constructive debate is one of the many things that makes this site so great. Anyway…

The cod liver oil really isn’t so bad if you get the Carlson brand stuff. It’s got a light lemon taste and I don’t think it’s so bad.

Back to the original thread, here’s a link about some of the detrimental effects of soy:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html

Here’s another:

http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtsoy.html

which brings up the fact that Archers Daniel Midland withdrew thier application for Generally Recognized as Safe status for soy isoflavones. That really says alot, IMHO.

Also, I know Weston Price and his foundation are a controversial bunch, but I definitely think their anti-soy position is right on the money.

I have a six month old son who gets breast milk mixed with formula. His birth was a bit complicated and my wife was not able to feed him right away. We think he was given a bottle of formula right away and thus would not take to my wife thus reducing her milk output. We use enfamil with lipil. The label says it has soy in the vegetable oil. I guess this is some kind of soy oil. It was hard to make the decision to use formula but my son needed more food than my wife could provide

[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Good luck to anyone who tries. I have 3 kids (7, 4, 2) and trying to calculate caloric expenditures seems like an impossible task. We just make sure that they get a little of everything they need with each meal, keep the snacks to relatively healthy foods (ie crackers, pretzels, whole fruits), plenty of water (we always use 50/50 mix of water with any juice we give them), and they only get sweets after they’ve eaten their meals. I feel blessed that they all despise sodas, although we have to bring water to birthday parties for my 7 year old because parents often only provide soda, freaking retards!

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I can imagine it being very difficult to get kids to eat very “clean”. I can’t speak from experience, yet, but my coworkers are always bringing me up to speed on how challenging kids can be when it comes to food. One 4 year old refuses water - only drinks milk and juice! Not a good habit to start his life with. Their parents really don’t know much about good nutrition anyway (just the 5:00 News version), but I keep their ears ringing with tips and hope even 1% rubs off.

That said, I commend your efforts to keep them off junk food and pop. Not an easy task with slick marketing and their schools almost force-feeding them junk. But, if I were you, I would try to steer them away from processed white flours (cracker and pretzels, etc). Even though they are baked and low-fat, they are really an empty calorie (junk food) because all the original nutrition in the grain has been bleached/stripped out. Not to mention, they are very high GI which can cause behavior issues and many other problems of course. This may be one reason why ADHD is over-diagnosed. Instead, try whole grain-based snacks, than switch to all whole foods after a while. If you have any family history of diabetes, I would make this a special priority.

Good luck,

TS