[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
The defining feature of whites: no interest in group identity.[/quote]
I disagree.
Correction: “no need for interest in group identity because society already caters to that group by default”.[/quote]
In 1983? Sure. 2013? Nope. [/quote]
I think it still holds. While there has definitely been imaginable change in the positive direction that MLK would have only dreamed about, at its base, this is still mostly a “white society”. I mean that in the sense that for instance there is still a “white male action hero” standard even if you do have guys like the Rock coming in from his Samoan roots.
When the basis of the culture is founded on a specific culture to the point that “black barbie dolls” were actually an invention in my life span, you can’t claim they were erased in only 20 years.
That is why I would say most whites feel little needs for “group identification”.
That isn’t meant in a derogatory way either…just the truth.
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The movie makers have tried using black leading men, and they don’t seem to make a lot of money. In my experiences Black People will watch so called “white” movies, but white people do not watch “black” movies.
I have personally tried to watch “Black” movies in the past, but they just do not seem to interest me or maybe my sense of humor just does not get some of the jokes. I really liked the movie “Diary of a Mad Black Woman” and have enjoyed several of Tyler Perry’s movies. I also like Boyz in the Hood maybe because I did not grow up in that type of community and my curiosity to learn what other people live like was peaked.
I am not trying to make this a racist comment, but I have not been exposed to different cultures, and like learning more about them. It is all different types of cultures.
On another note most super hero movies, I know you like those, when the comic books were originally written it was a different time and there was a lot of bias. That is why it seems all super heroes were white, and now it just seems like they have to make all the super heroes white because that is how they were originally portrayed. [/quote]
Yeah, it’s incredibly hard for me to relate to any kind of Spike Lee/John Singleton kind of things outside of a sideline perspective and a pretty objective view on whether what’s there is good or bad.
Whites have a much larger percentage of the cinema stake, that’s practically unanimously agreeable, and I see it staying that way for a fair amount of time, maybe due to white privilege, white per capita abundance etc. It’s difficult to appreciate a different culture with no real exposure to the grand subjects and circumstances the culture is either fighting or thriving under. Like watching an Asian film about tragedy or family values, where the traditionalism of that system of living is far more honoured than Western cultures have become.
Concerning Super Heroes in cinema, it’s still a necessity for the actors to conform to the racial origins set in stone for their characters. A little disheartening maybe, but of course it would indeed make little to no sense to suddenly have a Dwayne Johnson Superman or a Don Cheadle Batman. There’d be too much outrage, and whilst some of that outrage may just be racial contempt in disguise, it still stands as a reasonable argument.
All we could really hope for there is the creation of newer, well received, racially diverse superheroes. But as it stands now, I am strongly in favour of Superhero films maintaining a majority of white actors to portray the superhero in question if their history since has been white portrayal.
If I was going to argue you on one thing, it would be liking Tyler Perry movies. I have a sneaking suspicion even most black people don’t honestly like Tyler Perry movies.
