[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
The Assumption of Mary. +
Today is the Assumption of Mary into Heaven. Today is a Holy Day. [/quote]
Whew! Itās not an Obligation day in my diocese, is it you yours?
Thatās good because I canāt make it to mass, I didnāt make arrangements to have Communion brought.[/quote]Tsk tsk. And you call yourself a Catholic
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I had back surgery, a major one. Itās allowed. I watch mass on TV and somebody from the church brings me communion in Sundays.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
The Assumption of Mary. +
Today is the Assumption of Mary into Heaven. Today is a Holy Day. [/quote]
Whew! Itās not an Obligation day in my diocese, is it you yours?
Thatās good because I canāt make it to mass, I didnāt make arrangements to have Communion brought.[/quote]
It is a Holy Day of Obligation, but most Dioceses in America (notably not the NE and Midwest like Chicago) allow Sunday to fulfill the obligation on Sunday since the two days are so close.
[quote]method_man wrote:
Why are so many Catholic priests pedophiles?[/quote]
So many?
You mean 6% of OFFENDERS in the Clergy are pedophiles, is so many?
So, if you take the 4% (4,400) of the clergy between 1950-2002 (109,000) were ACCUSED of abuse of someone below the age of 18 (meaning the victims were 17 or below). Then you see that 10% of those ACCUSED were found to be charged with unsubstantiated cases (not saying they were not guiltyā¦but the case wasnāt strong enough). So, letās take the rule of law of Mexico, guilty til proven innocent and do the mathā¦
4% of the clergy are guilty of abuse, 6% are guilty of pedophilia, that means .24% of the Catholic clergy are pedophilesā¦261 priests.
I think there is in fact a different ācrisisā that is here that people donāt initially see.
Out of those abused (17 and below), 80.9% of the alleged abuse victims in the United States were male. Wanna guess what sex the Catholic clergy is? Guess what you call a male that practices sodomy on a male?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
The Assumption of Mary. +
Today is the Assumption of Mary into Heaven. Today is a Holy Day. [/quote]
Whew! Itās not an Obligation day in my diocese, is it you yours?
Thatās good because I canāt make it to mass, I didnāt make arrangements to have Communion brought.[/quote]Tsk tsk. And you call yourself a Catholic
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I had back surgery, a major one. Itās allowed. I watch mass on TV and somebody from the church brings me communion in Sundays.[/quote]Come on Pat. You donāt owe me any explanations and I was jist ribbin ya anyway.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
The Assumption of Mary. +
Today is the Assumption of Mary into Heaven. Today is a Holy Day. [/quote]
Whew! Itās not an Obligation day in my diocese, is it you yours?
Thatās good because I canāt make it to mass, I didnāt make arrangements to have Communion brought.[/quote]
What is an Obligation day?[/quote]
Ah, now thatās a proper Catholic question!
Holy Days of Obligation are days where Catholics are obliged to participate in mass. Actually itās a recommended day of rest. I.E. Holy days of Obligation are nothing more than a Sabbath. Every Sunday is a Holy Day of Obligation. Now through out the liturgical year there are several āFeastā or celebration days also included in the Holy Days of Obligation. Christmas and Easter are obvious ones. But there are others through out the year, like All Saints/ All Souls day, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, or like today the Feast of the Assumption. They are a Sabbaths to celebrate stuff. Each Bishop for each diocese can decide if Holy Day mass mass is mandatory or not.[/quote]
Thatās interesting. By mandatory do you mean itās considered a sin if you donāt attend?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
The Assumption of Mary. +
Today is the Assumption of Mary into Heaven. Today is a Holy Day. [/quote]
Whew! Itās not an Obligation day in my diocese, is it you yours?
Thatās good because I canāt make it to mass, I didnāt make arrangements to have Communion brought.[/quote]Tsk tsk. And you call yourself a Catholic
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I had back surgery, a major one. Itās allowed. I watch mass on TV and somebody from the church brings me communion in Sundays.[/quote]
Hope everything went well with your back surgery. Did you hurt your back working out?
[quote]method_man wrote:
Why are so many Catholic priests pedophiles?[/quote]
So many?
You mean 6% of OFFENDERS in the Clergy are pedophiles, is so many?
So, if you take the 4% (4,400) of the clergy between 1950-2002 (109,000) were ACCUSED of abuse of someone below the age of 18 (meaning the victims were 17 or below). Then you see that 10% of those ACCUSED were found to be charged with unsubstantiated cases (not saying they were not guiltyā¦but the case wasnāt strong enough). So, letās take the rule of law of Mexico, guilty til proven innocent and do the mathā¦
4% of the clergy are guilty of abuse, 6% are guilty of pedophilia, that means .24% of the Catholic clergy are pedophilesā¦261 priests.
I think there is in fact a different ācrisisā that is here that people donāt initially see.
Out of those abused (17 and below), 80.9% of the alleged abuse victims in the United States were male. Wanna guess what sex the Catholic clergy is? Guess what you call a male that practices sodomy on a male?
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Unfortunately, going into the clergy as a means to repress your sexuality probably doesnāt work much better than any other means to repress your sexuality. Except for castrationā¦Iāve heard thatās pretty effective.
[quote]forlife wrote:<<< Hope everything went well with your back surgery. Did you hurt your back working out?[/quote]He threw it out doing Calvin curls and and predestination pulldowns in one of his high intensity attacks on me =D
[quote]forlife wrote:<<< Hope everything went well with your back surgery. Did you hurt your back working out?[/quote]He threw it out doing Calvin curls and and predestination pulldowns in one of his high intensity attacks on me =D
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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
The Assumption of Mary. +
Today is the Assumption of Mary into Heaven. Today is a Holy Day. [/quote]
Whew! Itās not an Obligation day in my diocese, is it you yours?
Thatās good because I canāt make it to mass, I didnāt make arrangements to have Communion brought.[/quote]
What is an Obligation day?[/quote]
Ah, now thatās a proper Catholic question!
Holy Days of Obligation are days where Catholics are obliged to participate in mass. Actually itās a recommended day of rest. I.E. Holy days of Obligation are nothing more than a Sabbath. Every Sunday is a Holy Day of Obligation. Now through out the liturgical year there are several āFeastā or celebration days also included in the Holy Days of Obligation. Christmas and Easter are obvious ones. But there are others through out the year, like All Saints/ All Souls day, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, or like today the Feast of the Assumption. They are a Sabbaths to celebrate stuff. Each Bishop for each diocese can decide if Holy Day mass mass is mandatory or not.[/quote]
Thatās interesting. By mandatory do you mean itās considered a sin if you donāt attend? [/quote]
[quote]forlife wrote:<<< Hope everything went well with your back surgery. Did you hurt your back working out?[/quote]He threw it out doing Calvin curls and and predestination pulldowns in one of his high intensity attacks on me =D
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LOL! I am not attacking you, I am attacking Calvinism. Itās takes no effort though. I like Calvin Curlsā¦
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
The Assumption of Mary. +
Today is the Assumption of Mary into Heaven. Today is a Holy Day. [/quote]
Whew! Itās not an Obligation day in my diocese, is it you yours?
Thatās good because I canāt make it to mass, I didnāt make arrangements to have Communion brought.[/quote]Tsk tsk. And you call yourself a Catholic
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I had back surgery, a major one. Itās allowed. I watch mass on TV and somebody from the church brings me communion in Sundays.[/quote]
Hope everything went well with your back surgery. Did you hurt your back working out?
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No I was predestined to have itā¦
Seriously, itās genetic more than likely. My mother has back issues so I did too. I never had an injury working out directly. But I was moving pretty decent weights for meā¦Feathers for Push, but heavy for me so I am sure it exacerbated it, but it was directly related to lifting. Actually I could still lift to some degree. I could tolerate some weight on my back so I would do split squats and single leg DLās. It made the back a little more sore but it didnāt hurt it per se.
Long story short, It started to bother me a couple of years ago, but I didnāt think much of it because I never ever had any back issues before and I had been lifting for like 18 years at that point. It just kept getting worse.
The main aggravating factor was bone spurs poking in the spinal nerve. But the the disks were near shot too. I said I only wanted one surgery so we did the whole shootinā match. The discs were going to go in a couple of years anyway. If I am going to get cut, let it be one time.
2 level fusion, L4-S1. Titanium, not stainless steel.
Itās a loooooong recovery. Thank God I can work from home.
I described the journey in a back pain thread in the T-cell. It was a pain the ass. I hate most drās. There are a stunning amount of incompetent boobs out there. When you find a good one, stick with him/her.
I had back surgery, a major one. Itās allowed. I watch mass on TV and somebody from the church brings me communion in Sundays.[/quote]Come on Pat. You donāt owe me any explanations and I was jist ribbin ya anyway.
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I know, but I want there to be no doubt on my dedication to my faith. That when I discuss it, I am not discussing it from the sidelines. Hence I felt obliged to justify it.
[quote]method_man wrote:
Why are so many Catholic priests pedophiles?[/quote]
The short answer is that there isnāt. Each one gets a lot of press and if you look at the press reports, they tend to report on the same cases repeatedly, just perhaps new news. Further, a lot of accusations were driven out of money, but the acquittals arenāt on the front page they are on the back, so somebody who glances at the news with really paying attention seeās a lot more then there is.
Now, the fact that there arenāt that many is no excuse for those who did it. One is technically to many.
Remember how last year, the Belgium police illegally raided the diocese repository look for evidence of abuse. I am sure you heard about that. What you did not hear, is that they found no evidence and the case was tossed.
Weāre hated and forces in and out of the church are constantly trying to tear us down. Itāll never happen. We only become more humble and in our humility we find strength in the Lord.
[quote]method_man wrote:
Why are so many Catholic priests pedophiles?[/quote]
So many?
You mean 6% of OFFENDERS in the Clergy are pedophiles, is so many?
So, if you take the 4% (4,400) of the clergy between 1950-2002 (109,000) were ACCUSED of abuse of someone below the age of 18 (meaning the victims were 17 or below). Then you see that 10% of those ACCUSED were found to be charged with unsubstantiated cases (not saying they were not guiltyā¦but the case wasnāt strong enough). So, letās take the rule of law of Mexico, guilty til proven innocent and do the mathā¦
4% of the clergy are guilty of abuse, 6% are guilty of pedophilia, that means .24% of the Catholic clergy are pedophilesā¦261 priests.
I think there is in fact a different ācrisisā that is here that people donāt initially see.
Out of those abused (17 and below), 80.9% of the alleged abuse victims in the United States were male. Wanna guess what sex the Catholic clergy is? Guess what you call a male that practices sodomy on a male?
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The way you worded this confused me tooā¦The percentages of percentages actually make the numbers look bigger.
Today is a Holy Day. [/quote]