Catholic Mayor Prays to Allah

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
My gosh can we stop with the threads trying (and failing) to bash Catholics?

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Seriously. How the heck did we get to be so interesting all of a sudden? It’s been Catholic this and Catholic that for a bit now. Go ask Moshe, and give us a break.

Edit: Then again, there’s Jewish/Israel (Judaism naturally comes up) related stuff recently. How about bugging the Baptists or something, then? Hindus? Buddhists? Something, yeesh.[/quote]

Truly, the focus on Catholics on this site borders on the obsessive.

My gosh if homosexuals were treated this poorly everyone would say there was hate involved…he he.

One more example of a world that is upside down.[/quote]

The Bible said we would be persecuted… It’s cool. It means we must be doing something right.

It seems like some people are so desperate to achieve victim hood.

This thread is not about Catholics or bashing their religion.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
It seems like some people are so desperate to achieve victim hood.

This thread is not about Catholics or bashing their religion.[/quote]
Wasn’t your original purpose - but you just couldn’t help yourself huh?

Maybe you should have mentioned that in the OP
Or even later instead of posting that “Catholic mass” pic

But instead you take to blaming others now?

heh

The picture was in reply to BC’s question asking if I’ve ever seen an Iraqi Catholic pray. I interpreted his question to be suggesting it is difficult to differentiate between a muslim and a Catholic praying in certain parts of the world.

The pic was meant as a sarcastic reply to the idea thar Muslim and Catholic prayers are indistinguishable in some places.

As for your other question the pic from an old article relating to multiculturalism in the UK. iIRC.

Anyway If this is the type of persecution they face in 2012 they’re in the clear.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
The picture was in reply to BC’s question asking if I’ve ever seen an Iraqi Catholic pray. I interpreted his question to be suggesting it is difficult to differentiate between a muslim and a Catholic praying in certain parts of the world.

The pic was meant as a sarcastic reply to the idea thar Muslim and Catholic prayers are indistinguishable in some places.

As for your other question the pic from an old article relating to multiculturalism in the UK. iIRC.

Anyway If this is the type of persecution they face in 2012 they’re in the clear.[/quote]
Haha, I never noticed you were so funny

They’re not in the clear, to suggest that is just goofy.

Nobody is in the clear, to suggest that about anyone - you can’t be serious… yet I detect your sarcasm as the serious stinging kind, not the laughy goofy stuff that I would have just left alone. Maybe I’ve got a broken sarcasm detector

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Catholics are being bashed in this thread?

I just don’t get why the mayor is pandering to muslims so much.

Let me rephrase the title of this thread to: Non-muslim Chicago mayor prays to allah.

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article says

[quote]a ceremony that drew 15,000 people to Toyota Park on Sunday morning in the southwest suburb of Bridgeview.[/quote]15,000 is a lot

Was he pandering to Muslims, or pandering to voters?
Or maybe he actually believed in some basic principals, and pandering had nothing to do with it. Maybe.

[quote]Gov. Quinn also decried recent attacks against local Muslims, citing a shooting at a Morton Grove mosque, an attack on an Islamic school in Lombard and the desecration of a grave in an Evergreen Park cemetery.

â??These are un-American acts,â?? he said. â??The people of Illinois, all 13 million, abhor anyone who would commit these serious acts of violence as a violation of our constitution.â??

The governor called religious freedom â??The most American and fundamental freedom that we have in our country,â?? and said â??The First Amendment of our constitution says that everyone, everyone has the right to practice their religion and their faith without fear of intimidation.â??[/quote]

Your posts don’t strike me as the type to come from someone who considers themselves in the clear. So is it just atheists who have any reason to be on edge? Everyone else should just live in rainbow land?

This is just BS from my imagination, but I would expect that atheists are the least persecuted of any religious group. At least in North America.

I also tend to hear a lot more complaining from y’all, but it could just be my ears are more sensitive to that certain pitch.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/14594698-418/quinn-signs-religious-tolerance-bill-at-end-of-ramadan-celebration.html[/quote]

He’s governor.

All religion is a trick, trying to turn humans into mindless robots. I’m not surprised that this criminal gets down with the robots.[/quote]
You sound like a robot more than anyone else - on any religious topics lately

As I type this it has just now dawned on me that your irony may even be intentional - hah, good one - if that’s the case

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

Sort of like what happens here when a woman passes a construction site? Or what I used to see when I lived in the ghetto?

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No, not like that at all. Gangrape and stoning women to death etc. Not the same no.

Is that a joke? The average al Qaeda terrorist has a post graduate degree and earns more money than I do. The Arab oil emirates and their sovereign wealth funds are the amongst the wealthiest people on earth and the main financiers and organisers of terrorism. And as you well know this is a ‘muslim thing.’ Poor Christians/Hindus/Buddhists etc. aren’t involved in this sort of stuff.

You’re comparing Irish, Jewish and Italian migrants to Islamic terrorists?

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That’s the problem facing some of these European nations. It isn’t about how to integrate Muslims as much as it is how to integrate people from a different culture who are uneducated. These negative behaviors that are being described are not an expression of Islam. The Koran doesn’t instruct people to harass women like that or to rape them. Do you think a well educated Muslim who goes to Europe to become a professor or practice medicine is going to hang out on corners and insult women? [/quote]

Actually I know for a fact that many of them do. Have you ever lived in Europe?

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

Sort of like what happens here when a woman passes a construction site? Or what I used to see when I lived in the ghetto?

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No, not like that at all. Gangrape and stoning women to death etc. Not the same no.

Is that a joke? The average al Qaeda terrorist has a post graduate degree and earns more money than I do. The Arab oil emirates and their sovereign wealth funds are the amongst the wealthiest people on earth and the main financiers and organisers of terrorism. And as you well know this is a ‘muslim thing.’ Poor Christians/Hindus/Buddhists etc. aren’t involved in this sort of stuff.

You’re comparing Irish, Jewish and Italian migrants to Islamic terrorists?

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That’s the problem facing some of these European nations. It isn’t about how to integrate Muslims as much as it is how to integrate people from a different culture who are uneducated. These negative behaviors that are being described are not an expression of Islam. The Koran doesn’t instruct people to harass women like that or to rape them. Do you think a well educated Muslim who goes to Europe to become a professor or practice medicine is going to hang out on corners and insult women? [/quote]

Actually I know for a fact that many of them do. Have you ever lived in Europe?[/quote]

People will probably try to pass you off as racist, but the fact is that you’re absolutely spot-on with your observations.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

Actually I know for a fact that many of them do. Have you ever lived in Europe?[/quote]
Yes. I am a citizen of a Euro nation and speak a few different languages.

And when you brought up stoning and gang rape where did that come from? The original stated problem wasn’t Muslims raping or stoning women but insulting them as they walked by. Again, nothing unlike what I witnessed while I lived and worked in the ghetto. The same with bringing up terrorism. That wasn’t the problem being brought up. It was crime and behavior. BTW, Italian immigrants being linked to terrorism sounds silly? Go back to Chicago under Al Capone. At the end of the day what’s the difference between the PLO and the Crips and Bloods? For those who get caught in the crossfire: not much.

I also work at a university and there are well-educated professors who come from various predominantly Muslim countries and they aren’t raping anyone. Who knows, maybe they are just waiting to attack us…maybe in a movie theater or Empire State building or something…like a typical Muslim…

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

Yes. I am a citizen of a Euro nation…

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Well that explains some…

But the problem goes far beyond that which was my point.

Sorry couldn’t help myself.

No, that’s moral relativism. There is a world of difference between the PLO and the Crips and Bloods. Mafioso did not deliberately massacre civilians based on their ethnicity. But I get what you’re saying: basically you’re saying you consider genocide and massacring civilians comparable to bootlegging. Gotcha.

Yes, so do I. As I said above, it’s nothing to do with poverty or education. It’s a cultural problem that largely did not exist 20 years ago.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I don’t get it. Is there something more. Doesn’t say he prayed to Allah. And, have you ever seen an Iraqi Catholic pray?[/quote]

Chaldeans pray on rugs like the Muslims?
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I’m sure there is some. Prayer style can be cultural. I have a prayer rug given to me by pilgrims staying at my house, actually.

You have pilgrims at your house Chris!!! Ask them about their theology for me will ya =]

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
You have pilgrims at your house Chris!!! Ask them about their theology for me will ya =][/quote]

Coptic Catholics going up to Champion, Wisconsin.

http://www.catholic.org/hf/faith/story.php?id=39511

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Mafioso did not deliberately massacre civilians based on their ethnicity. But I get what you’re saying: basically you’re saying you consider genocide and massacring civilians comparable to bootlegging. Gotcha.
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Basically you’re saying you consider what the US did to the Indians and Africans comparable to Muslim terrorism. Gotcha.

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Mafioso did not deliberately massacre civilians based on their ethnicity. But I get what you’re saying: basically you’re saying you consider genocide and massacring civilians comparable to bootlegging. Gotcha.
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Basically you’re saying you consider what the US did to the Indians and Africans comparable to Muslim terrorism. Gotcha. [/quote]

Sorry, where did I mention “Indians” and “Africans?” I don’t have time for mental cases.