[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
The new cts v sedan is pretty american bad ass cool[/quote]
Doesn’t that only come in auto? Sorry, but if it’s not a manual or a sweet dual clutch gearbox then it’s not a proper car.[/quote]
My buddy has a 2013 CTS-V. Not a manual but I can assure you its a proper car. Its got a 556 hp 6.2l supercharged V-8 and a fantastic suspension system and a very nice interior. 0 to 60 in sub 4 seconds. I freaking love that car.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
The new cts v sedan is pretty american bad ass cool[/quote]
Doesn’t that only come in auto? Sorry, but if it’s not a manual or a sweet dual clutch gearbox then it’s not a proper car.[/quote]
My buddy has a 2013 CTS-V. Not a manual but I can assure you its a proper car. Its got a 556 hp 6.2l supercharged V-8 and a fantastic suspension system and a very nice interior. 0 to 60 in sub 4 seconds. I freaking love that car. [/quote]
Okay, but an automatic transmission? It’s not natural. It’s not the way God intended us to drive. Frankly, it’s against natural law and if people want to use automatic transmissions in their own car that’s up to them but I want no part of it. And I just don’t think it should be celebrated. After all, manual transmissions are getting rarer and rarer these days. People said well if you like your manual you can keep your manual but now fewer and fewer manufacturers are even offering it.
The thing I’ve heard about the Mustang GT is it’s not really a traditional 'murican muscle car anymore. The independent rear suspension and shocks and gear ratio and sweet transmission and recaro seats and 20" wheels and all the rest bring it up to premium sports car class. It probably handles a lot more like the BMW M3 I’ve driven than the old v8 muscle cars I’ve driven.
I just haven’t driven a 'murican muscle car that was built in the last 35 years so I don’t know what to expect. It sucks having to wait till the end of the year to test drive one. Is there anyone who has driven the new M3/M4 and the 2015 Mustang GT performance Pack? How would you compare? What’s the stock manual shifter like on the GT?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
The new cts v sedan is pretty american bad ass cool[/quote]
Doesn’t that only come in auto? Sorry, but if it’s not a manual or a sweet dual clutch gearbox then it’s not a proper car.[/quote]
My buddy has a 2013 CTS-V. Not a manual but I can assure you its a proper car. Its got a 556 hp 6.2l supercharged V-8 and a fantastic suspension system and a very nice interior. 0 to 60 in sub 4 seconds. I freaking love that car. [/quote]
Okay, but an automatic transmission? It’s not natural. It’s not the way God intended us to drive. Frankly, it’s against natural law and if people want to use automatic transmissions in their own car that’s up to them but I want no part of it. And I just don’t think it should be celebrated. After all, manual transmissions are getting rarer and rarer these days. People said well if you like your manual you can keep your manual but now fewer and fewer manufacturers are even offering it.[/quote]
It has an 8 speed automatic with launch control and magnesium paddle shifters. It goes from 0-60 in 3.7 seconds, top speed of 200 mph. I think you might be a little over the top with your manual transmission preference. I like to drive manual cars especially in certain situations. There are many times I would rather drive an automatic. With these new paddle shifters in the automatics it makes it a no contest. You can get into lower gears during aggressive cornering with the paddles.
That Caddy is a bad ass ride.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
The thing I’ve heard about the Mustang GT is it’s not really a traditional 'murican muscle car anymore. [/quote]
Why not just buy an old one? For the cost of a new mustang, or M4 you could probably pick up a legit vintage mustang and it would be exponentially cooler than a new one.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Glittergirl69 wrote:
This is a front view of my car[/quote]
Well you showed me yours, so I will show you mine… '13 Brembo Brake package with Recaro seats.
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Did you get the manual pat? Surely you did right?[/quote]
Oh hell yes. I wouldn’t even consider an auto. Actually, I haven’t ever bought a car that wasn’t a manual. I am not sure I ever will, unless I am buying a beater to abuse. Then I won’t care what it has.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
The thing I’ve heard about the Mustang GT is it’s not really a traditional 'murican muscle car anymore. [/quote]
Why not just buy an old one? For the cost of a new mustang, or M4 you could probably pick up a legit vintage mustang and it would be exponentially cooler than a new one. [/quote]
Don’t like em. They look great but they handle terribly. I want a modern sports car.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Glittergirl69 wrote:
This is a front view of my car[/quote]
Well you showed me yours, so I will show you mine… '13 Brembo Brake package with Recaro seats.
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Did you get the manual pat? Surely you did right?[/quote]
Oh hell yes. I wouldn’t even consider an auto. Actually, I haven’t ever bought a car that wasn’t a manual. I am not sure I ever will, unless I am buying a beater to abuse. Then I won’t care what it has. [/quote]
So what’s the stock shifter like on the new Mustangs? How about the clutch?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Glittergirl69 wrote:
This is a front view of my car[/quote]
Well you showed me yours, so I will show you mine… '13 Brembo Brake package with Recaro seats.
[/quote]
Did you get the manual pat? Surely you did right?[/quote]
Oh hell yes. I wouldn’t even consider an auto. Actually, I haven’t ever bought a car that wasn’t a manual. I am not sure I ever will, unless I am buying a beater to abuse. Then I won’t care what it has. [/quote]
So what’s the stock shifter like on the new Mustangs? How about the clutch?[/quote]
I cannot speak for the 15’s, there is an updated tranny and clutch.
On mine the shifts are smooth, but deliberate, it doesn’t like to be hurried. The only problem I have is occasionally missing 3rd gear which is the most common mistake people make on that car.
Clutch take up is smooth and easy. Under spirited driving it can sometimes feel excessively light, almost like it’s catching at the bottom, but it’s not. There is a counter pressure spring you can remove that eliminates the problem, but increases clutch effort. I don’t want to screw with it because it’s not that big a deal. Like anything else you have to learn your car and once you, it ceases being a problem. It’s something one may notice at first but once you get used to it, you no longer notice.
My understanding is that on the '15’s the shifts have been lightened and shortened so it does accept faster shifts as well as clutch smoothness being improved. So '15 shifts should be shorter, faster and lighter. The '15s chassis has been improved to the point where with the performance pack consistently out performs the previous year’s BOSS 302 on the track.
A lot of people attribute that to the IRL, but I don’t believe that’s true. Mainly because you can settle the solid rear axle with some of the suspension packages available. In other words, getting the Ford Racing suspension kit will also out perform the BOSS 302 in a regular GT. The IRL is going to make the most difference in the comfort of daily driving and perhaps increase your courage, but it does come with a weight penalty. The 15’s are 200 lbs heavier than my car, so you don’t get the benefit from the 15 extra HP they bumped the Coyote motor.
If I were to put the Ford Racing Power Pack and suspension kit on my car, it would take a performance pack '15 Mustang on the track. The power pack adds a true 16 HP bump and 8 ft/ lbs torques, with a huge low end torque boost. What I mean is that while total torques go up 8 ft/lbs, at 1500 RPM it bumps it 60 ft/lbs over stock, so the power comes on harder and sooner. So it is a good pack for that reason, and it’s not expensive. People waste a lot more money to get a lot less. For instance, a lot of people put Cold Air Induction kits on the Mustang, which alone are basically useless. People think they are getting a bump from it because they usually come with a tune and the tune is where they are really getting the power. The stock box is actually better designed than a lot of kits.
Now tunes are a whole other story. This is where people fuck up their motors.
The suspension kit from Ford Racing is a work of art, I really like the kit a lot. If I had the $$ that’s probably the first mod I would do.
As you can see I am advocating the Ford Racing stuff. There are a couple of reasons, they are well designed and designed by or in coordination with the Ford engineers. Also, they will not void your car’s warranty and also have their own. Further, their parts are competitively priced. So that’s worth it’s weight in gold to me.
People spend stupid amounts of money for mods that don’t help much. There’s about 10 mods I can think of that really make a true difference and are not a waste of money.
Then again, the car is really good stock. Mine is bone stock and it’s a joy to drive. There’s stuff I would do if I had the cash, but it wouldn’t be major and I would not do anything to the look of the car. I like the way it looks as is. No fake scoops, no fake holes. If it’s on my car, it’s functional, if it’s not functional, it’s not on my car.
Found a pic of jjackrash’s house.
I have no where to drive it, but I’d love me a SVT Ford Raptor. The 2017 version will have a twin-turbo 3.5L V6 producing 450-500 hp instead of the 411hp Ford got out of the old trucks 6.2L V8.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
I’d love me a SVT Ford Raptor.[/quote]
X2 however fuck the price of those trucks.
How much is a base F150 vs the raptor? Isnt it like a 30k difference for a long travel suspension and bigger wheels/tires?
Looks like a base F150 is around $25K and in 2013 a Raptor was around $50K. But you can easily get a Platinum or HD edition F150 that options out over $50K so I guess it comes down to priorities. Do you want a bad-ass truck that can take on whatever terrain you throw at it, or do you want a nice leather interior with orange pinstripes and a picture of an eagle somewhere on it?
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Found a pic of jjackrash’s house.
I have no where to drive it, but I’d love me a SVT Ford Raptor. The 2017 version will have a twin-turbo 3.5L V6 producing 450-500 hp instead of the 411hp Ford got out of the old trucks 6.2L V8.[/quote]
The right fender of that Raptor is annoying to me. I’m not sure if it is a bad paint match or if the color is supposed to be like that because the whole front clip looks like a different color? I think if the color is correct they should have blended it. It makes it look cheap.
I think it’s a matte blue wrap and the sheen is making it look like different colors.
I looked at some images online and it looks to me that it must be because of the angles of the fender that causes the light reflection to make the paint look off on most of the Raptors I’ve seen. The seachicken one posted by the Dr is more extreme than others I’ve seen. I think if I was going to purchase a Raptor I would want a satin finish to soften the reflection affects the factory finish has on it.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
I think it’s a matte blue wrap and the sheen is making it look like different colors.[/quote]
Yeah, that picture is probably a wrap. I would do that custom job different. Maybe end the wrap at the hood and do a faded paint job on the fender. I’ve never seen a finish get faded with a normal clear into a satin one, but you could do it I’m sure.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Looks like a base F150 is around $25K and in 2013 a Raptor was around $50K. But you can easily get a Platinum or HD edition F150 that options out over $50K so I guess it comes down to priorities. Do you want a bad-ass truck that can take on whatever terrain you throw at it, or do you want a nice leather interior with orange pinstripes and a picture of an eagle somewhere on it?[/quote]
TRD Tacoma + money leftover for sports car
Really anything because 50k for an F150 is stupid.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
It’s out and it’s a bad mother fucker. I want one more than a Ferrari and a 911 and I have driven both and not driven the vette.
America baby! Fuck yeah!
EDIT: The auto is faster…WTF![/quote]
OK, I just came.[/quote]
I’d question your manhood if you didn’t. I luuuuuuuuuuv the Z06. And the story only gets better. You can actually build the motor yourself, check it:
http://blog.caranddriver.com/for-5000-chevy-will-let-you-assemble-your-corvette-z06s-engine-yourself/
