facko and ryanbcxg, have you read the book wheat belly? i found it funny that you guys dont feel full from pasta or bread because the author talks about it in his book. i found this explanation on his website.
“The gliadin protein of wheat is an appetite-stimulant: It increases desire for more wheat products, it increases desire for other foods, a constant cycle of hunger that drives increased consumption.”
See but i dont desire wheat products I avoid them because 1) i dont crave/really like them 2) they dont do anything for my apetite either postivie or negative.
Thanks for the read
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Jehova: maybe you should read the entire thread. Its stated this about physique only! Not about optimal health
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Jehova: maybe you should read the entire thread. Its stated this about physique only! Not about optimal health[/quote]
My bad, it was an old thread so when I clicked the “check” mark it took me to my last viewed spot. By that time I forgot what the original post was about and only went by the title.
[quote]zraw wrote:
Im surprised so few people seem to care
I’ll make it so more people care…
Hey guys, wether you decide to have 30g of carbs from brown rice or from 355ml of sprite doesnt change shit as far as body composition is concerned
Hooray?[/quote]
Unfortunately, anyone who only cares about body composition is very close minded in terms of nutrition.
To disregard micronutrition is ridiculous.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Jehova: maybe you should read the entire thread. Its stated this about physique only! Not about optimal health[/quote]
My bad, it was an old thread so when I clicked the “check” mark it took me to my last viewed spot. By that time I forgot what the original post was about and only went by the title.
[/quote]
That came out sounding like an ass and i didnt mean it that way. You contribute a lot of good info. So sorry bout that.
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Im surprised so few people seem to care
I’ll make it so more people care…
Hey guys, wether you decide to have 30g of carbs from brown rice or from 355ml of sprite doesnt change shit as far as body composition is concerned
Hooray?[/quote]
Unfortunately, anyone who only cares about body composition is very close minded in terms of nutrition.
To disregard micronutrition is ridiculous.
[/quote]
Unfortunately, you are missing the point.
This experiment was done in “extreme” manner to prove a point
What this means is for convenience or just for simply feeling like it you could have something you like as your carb source sometimes instead of the same old “bodybuilding” carbs.
Is this more clear? You are the close minded one here it seems, sry
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Jehova: maybe you should read the entire thread. Its stated this about physique only! Not about optimal health[/quote]
My bad, it was an old thread so when I clicked the “check” mark it took me to my last viewed spot. By that time I forgot what the original post was about and only went by the title.
[/quote]
That came out sounding like an ass and i didnt mean it that way. You contribute a lot of good info. So sorry bout that. [/quote]
No worries, I don’t mind being called on poor reading comprehension or lack thereof 
I dish shit, I should be able to take it too
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Im surprised so few people seem to care
I’ll make it so more people care…
Hey guys, wether you decide to have 30g of carbs from brown rice or from 355ml of sprite doesnt change shit as far as body composition is concerned
Hooray?[/quote]
Unfortunately, anyone who only cares about body composition is very close minded in terms of nutrition.
To disregard micronutrition is ridiculous.
[/quote]
Unfortunately, you are missing the point.
This experiment was done in “extreme” manner to prove a point
What this means is for convenience or just for simply feeling like it you could have something you like as your carb source sometimes instead of the same old “bodybuilding” carbs.
Is this more clear? You are the close minded one here it seems, sry
[/quote]
It took another man’s experiment for you to figure out that if you want to have a sprite you can have a sprite as long as it fits in your carb calorie needs for the day?
It’s clear, but a VERY old concept that’s been clear for years.
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Im surprised so few people seem to care
I’ll make it so more people care…
Hey guys, wether you decide to have 30g of carbs from brown rice or from 355ml of sprite doesnt change shit as far as body composition is concerned
Hooray?[/quote]
Unfortunately, anyone who only cares about body composition is very close minded in terms of nutrition.
To disregard micronutrition is ridiculous.
[/quote]
Unfortunately, you are missing the point.
This experiment was done in “extreme” manner to prove a point
What this means is for convenience or just for simply feeling like it you could have something you like as your carb source sometimes instead of the same old “bodybuilding” carbs.
Is this more clear? You are the close minded one here it seems, sry
[/quote]
It took another man’s experiment for you to figure out that if you want to have a sprite you can have a sprite as long as it fits in your carb calorie needs for the day?
It’s clear, but a VERY old concept that’s been clear for years.[/quote]
Are you fucking kidding me?
Can you read?
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Im surprised so few people seem to care
I’ll make it so more people care…
Hey guys, wether you decide to have 30g of carbs from brown rice or from 355ml of sprite doesnt change shit as far as body composition is concerned
Hooray?[/quote]
Unfortunately, anyone who only cares about body composition is very close minded in terms of nutrition.
To disregard micronutrition is ridiculous.
[/quote]
Unfortunately, you are missing the point.
This experiment was done in “extreme” manner to prove a point
What this means is for convenience or just for simply feeling like it you could have something you like as your carb source sometimes instead of the same old “bodybuilding” carbs.
Is this more clear? You are the close minded one here it seems, sry
[/quote]
It took another man’s experiment for you to figure out that if you want to have a sprite you can have a sprite as long as it fits in your carb calorie needs for the day?
It’s clear, but a VERY old concept that’s been clear for years.[/quote]
Are you fucking kidding me?
Can you read?
[/quote]
Apparently not.
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Im surprised so few people seem to care
I’ll make it so more people care…
Hey guys, wether you decide to have 30g of carbs from brown rice or from 355ml of sprite doesnt change shit as far as body composition is concerned
Hooray?[/quote]
Unfortunately, anyone who only cares about body composition is very close minded in terms of nutrition.
To disregard micronutrition is ridiculous.
[/quote]
Says the guy whose recipe videos include muffin mix, chocolate milk, flavored yogurt, white bread, etc. I could have sworn you justified including processed foods like those because at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter, as long as you hit the right macro’s…which sounds strikingly similar to what Skip is saying.
[quote]bcingu wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Im surprised so few people seem to care
I’ll make it so more people care…
Hey guys, wether you decide to have 30g of carbs from brown rice or from 355ml of sprite doesnt change shit as far as body composition is concerned
Hooray?[/quote]
Unfortunately, anyone who only cares about body composition is very close minded in terms of nutrition.
To disregard micronutrition is ridiculous.
[/quote]
Says the guy whose recipe videos include muffin mix, chocolate milk, flavored yogurt, white bread, etc. I could have sworn you justified including processed foods like those because at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter, as long as you hit the right macro’s…which sounds strikingly similar to what Skip is saying.[/quote]
You are assuming I eat those meals for every meal of my day. Check the last few videos I’ve posted and they’ll fit the micronutrition bill.
I do agree with the ‘as long as you hit your macros’ statement, yes (I’m actually more of an ‘if it fits your calories’ guy, as I don’t believe in counting specific macros). However, to ignore the importance of micronutrition is ridiculous. See how I haven’t changed my view 
If you want to discuss what I’m saying through PM, feel free. I don’t want to get off topic in here though, which is what’s happening. PM me if you’d like.
Thanks
And to ignore the fact that no one is recommending that you go on a strick candy and soda diet for carb source is ridiculous.
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
It took another man’s experiment for you to figure out that if you want to have a sprite you can have a sprite as long as it fits in your carb calorie needs for the day?
It’s clear, but a VERY old concept that’s been clear for years.[/quote]
Disagreed.
Look, I get that it maybe seemed like OP was talking down to you and so you responded in similar fashion, but let’s not act as if any age-old wisdom equating steelcut oats with Sprite has been out there all along…
[quote]chillain wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
It took another man’s experiment for you to figure out that if you want to have a sprite you can have a sprite as long as it fits in your carb calorie needs for the day?
It’s clear, but a VERY old concept that’s been clear for years.[/quote]
Disagreed.
Look, I get that it maybe seemed like OP was talking down to you and so you responded in similar fashion, but let’s not act as if any age-old wisdom equating steelcut oats with Sprite has been out there all along…
[/quote]
There is a quote from Dorian Yates from YEARS ago with him talking about eating Snickers bars, chocolate, etc… Actually, the longer you go back, the more people bulked hard with ‘dirty’ foods, we’re talking pros here. Then I’d say the clean eating years came in, and now it’s back to eating whatever you want. I’m not sure how old you are, but that could have something to do with your view point if you haven’t been into this stuff for long. Just a thought.
I’m not aiming to be insulting either, just thinking out loud. People that knew what they were doing ate many different foods and came out OK. It’s been around for awhile, trust me.
Also, in terms of weight gain or loss, the old law of the conservation of energy has been around for a while as well. That can teach us that food type matters very little in terms of weight loss or gain, as energy intake versus energy consumption is the true machinery at work.
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
[quote]chillain wrote:
[quote]2020Wellness wrote:
It took another man’s experiment for you to figure out that if you want to have a sprite you can have a sprite as long as it fits in your carb calorie needs for the day?
It’s clear, but a VERY old concept that’s been clear for years.[/quote]
Disagreed.
Look, I get that it maybe seemed like OP was talking down to you and so you responded in similar fashion, but let’s not act as if any age-old wisdom equating steelcut oats with Sprite has been out there all along…
[/quote]
There is a quote from Dorian Yates from YEARS ago with him talking about eating Snickers bars, chocolate, etc… Actually, the longer you go back, the more people bulked hard with ‘dirty’ foods, we’re talking pros here. Then I’d say the clean eating years came in, and now it’s back to eating whatever you want. I’m not sure how old you are, but that could have something to do with your view point if you haven’t been into this stuff for long. Just a thought.[/quote]
Good point, I’m not young anymore but my exposure to BB history, etc is def limited
Anyway, I don’t see why pros techniques matter much here. No one disputes that one can get away with more and more “dirty” foods as one is leaner and leaner, and that carrying extra LBM also grants more wiggle room, so of course pro BBs should be able to be the “dirtiest”
Remember, we’re talking real-world results/expectations for us common folk in this thread…