[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
I just bought some at the gas station. 12 25 mgs for 4.99. No ID needed.
Apparently the FDA is making ephedrine manufacturers add Guaifenesin to the tabs to prevent the making of meth. So now it’s ok.[/quote]
What rubs me, though, is that’s more than double the price it used to be. It’s the same shit, but now you pay three bucks more for it. Thanks FDA.
[quote]youngguns516 wrote:
get some clenbuterol[/quote]
I’ve thought about clen, but I haven’t really looked into it much. I’d wanna see what the possible side effects are, whether or not I should take it being only 20 y.o., etc.
ok, I just read the meso profile on clen, and it sounds like something I could get behind. One thing though: how long does it take the beta receptor to return to normal after use? I’ve heard some people say that ephedrine has the same affect on the beta receptor, which is why I’m starting off at a lower dose. Also, what does the beta receptor do exactly?
[quote]BigRagoo wrote:
<<< What rubs me, though, is that’s more than double the price it used to be. It’s the same shit, but now you pay three bucks more for it. Thanks FDA. [/quote]
Back in the early nineties I used to mail order it from some place I think was in Oregon. 18 bucks for 1000 25 mg white crosses. I have a shitload right now I got practically for free for doing a dog evaluation for some guy a friend of mine knew (I didn’t ask) I take one and a half 12.5 mg tabs pre workout only as it without a doubt is not good for this type 2 diabetic,s insulin sensitivity any more often than that. I have proven that to myself.
EDIT: I have to say that when I was eatin it like candy years ago (like 200 mg a day) I got waaaaay lean. Mid single digits. Vascular saran wrap full package mid section. I could barely get any pinch at all off my abs. The skin would slip out of my fingers.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
<<< What rubs me, though, is that’s more than double the price it used to be. It’s the same shit, but now you pay three bucks more for it. Thanks FDA.
Back in the early nineties I used to mail order it from some place I think was in Oregon. 18 bucks for 1000 25 mg white crosses. I have a shitload right now I got practically for free for doing a dog evaluation for some guy a friend of mine knew (I didn’t ask) I take one and a half 12.5 mg tabs pre workout only as it without a doubt is not good for this type 2 diabetic,s insulin sensitivity any more often than that. I have proven that to myself.
EDIT: I have to say that when I was eatin it like candy years ago (like 200 mg a day) I got waaaaay lean. Mid single digits. Vascular saran wrap full package mid section. I could barely get any pinch at all off my abs. The skin would slip out of my fingers.[/quote]
Damn Trib, that’s some dosage bro!!! lol…my god, how did you handle those sides at that dose? How did you take them, like 50mg a pop, several times a day? I heard of some guys taking bigger doses like that with out too many problems, myself I would be a bit jacked off such a large dose…
I used to do around 50-75mg a day and it was damn effective too…I’d say it is still the king of fat loss/low sides…but it will get you a bit tweaked and shaky if overdone…at least you won’t get cardiomegaly like you can from clen…
TBN
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
<<< What rubs me, though, is that’s more than double the price it used to be. It’s the same shit, but now you pay three bucks more for it. Thanks FDA.
Back in the early nineties I used to mail order it from some place I think was in Oregon. 18 bucks for 1000 25 mg white crosses. I have a shitload right now I got practically for free for doing a dog evaluation for some guy a friend of mine knew (I didn’t ask) I take one and a half 12.5 mg tabs pre workout only as it without a doubt is not good for this type 2 diabetic,s insulin sensitivity any more often than that. I have proven that to myself.
EDIT: I have to say that when I was eatin it like candy years ago (like 200 mg a day) I got waaaaay lean. Mid single digits. Vascular saran wrap full package mid section. I could barely get any pinch at all off my abs. The skin would slip out of my fingers.
Damn Trib, that’s some dosage bro!!! lol…my god, how did you handle those sides at that dose? How did you take them, like 50mg a pop, several times a day? I heard of some guys taking bigger doses like that with out too many problems, myself I would be a bit jacked off such a large dose…I used to do around 50-75mg a day and it was damn effective too…I’d say it is still the king of fat loss/low sides…but it will get you a bit tweaked and shaky if overdone…at least you won’t get cardiomegaly like you can from clen…
TBN[/quote]
I took 2 first thing in the morning 4 pre workout, which was mid afternoon and a couple late afternoon. Always with instant coffee. I had a tolerance to it. I took it like that for a couple years with no problems. My blood pressure was actually a little on the low side.
Suppscanada sells ephedrine, ma huang, and l-arginine pretty freely.
whoops, not L-argnine… LOL. I meant L-carnitine.
Anyways, ephedra (sinica) is the herb. Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine are the active ingredients.
And to clear things up. I believe the bann on ephedrine was lifted after two supplement companies took the FDA to court and won. But it’s still restricted.
Basically, it can’t be marketed as a dietary supplement. It’s mostly sold as an “oral nasal decongestant” or “bronchodilator” for asthma. And it’s only available in 8/10mg of ephedrine per dosage.
Yeah, you can still get plenty of good ol’ ephedrine. Just “Google” it.
I’d suggest Vasopro, as Biotek sucks balls.
Oh, and when they tell you they need ID, it’s nonsense. I actually ordered 6 boxes of 48 ct. and they had a big disclaimer about needing a one- time ID check. I sent no ID, and I still got my ephedrine the next day.
[quote]Divine Wings wrote:
(is anything “near you,” in Iowa?) quote]
Hey bitch, you leave Iowa alone!
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
<<< What rubs me, though, is that’s more than double the price it used to be. It’s the same shit, but now you pay three bucks more for it. Thanks FDA.
Back in the early nineties I used to mail order it from some place I think was in Oregon. 18 bucks for 1000 25 mg white crosses. I have a shitload right now I got practically for free for doing a dog evaluation for some guy a friend of mine knew (I didn’t ask) I take one and a half 12.5 mg tabs pre workout only as it without a doubt is not good for this type 2 diabetic,s insulin sensitivity any more often than that. I have proven that to myself.
EDIT: I have to say that when I was eatin it like candy years ago (like 200 mg a day) I got waaaaay lean. Mid single digits. Vascular saran wrap full package mid section. I could barely get any pinch at all off my abs. The skin would slip out of my fingers.
Damn Trib, that’s some dosage bro!!! lol…my god, how did you handle those sides at that dose? How did you take them, like 50mg a pop, several times a day? I heard of some guys taking bigger doses like that with out too many problems, myself I would be a bit jacked off such a large dose…I used to do around 50-75mg a day and it was damn effective too…I’d say it is still the king of fat loss/low sides…but it will get you a bit tweaked and shaky if overdone…at least you won’t get cardiomegaly like you can from clen…
TBN
I took 2 first thing in the morning 4 pre workout, which was mid afternoon and a couple late afternoon. Always with instant coffee. I had a tolerance to it. I took it like that for a couple years with no problems. My blood pressure was actually a little on the low side.[/quote]
That's outrageous dude!! My blood pressure would surely have taken a hit from that...but I guess you did ok...curious...when is the last time you took it since it seems to be quite easy on your system?
Are you just being safe now?
I can imagine how shredded you must have been...lol...still can't get over that! And with coffee no less...lol...wow, you one crazy mofo bro!
ToneBone
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
That’s outrageous dude!! My blood pressure would surely have taken a hit from that…but I guess you did ok…curious…when is the last time you took it since it seems to be quite easy on your system? Are you just being safe now? I can imagine how shredded you must have been…lol…still can’t get over that! And with coffee no less…lol…wow, you one crazy mofo bro! [/quote]
Like I say I built up a tolerance and honestly never gave it a second thought. It was getting no publicity then and all I knew was it got me wired and no matter how much I ate I didn’t get any fatter. Some of that has to do with the fact that I was in my 20’s then and had a delivery job where I was running around NYC unloading the truck I had loaded in the morning. Not to mention I was training hard too. all of which also adds up to why it didn’t adversely affect my BP.
Now I only take 18-20 mg pre workout with stiff cup of brewed coffee and green tea mixed. It is really hard on insulin sensitivity and if I take it any more than that my blood sugar starts averaging 30-50 points higher. I developed type2 diabetes from drinking, eating like shit and working a desk job for over 10 years after falling off the training wagon. It is now entirely under control.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
That’s outrageous dude!! My blood pressure would surely have taken a hit from that…but I guess you did ok…curious…when is the last time you took it since it seems to be quite easy on your system? Are you just being safe now? I can imagine how shredded you must have been…lol…still can’t get over that! And with coffee no less…lol…wow, you one crazy mofo bro!
Like I say I built up a tolerance and honestly never gave it a second thought. It was getting no publicity then and all I knew was it got me wired and no matter how much I ate I didn’t get any fatter. Some of that has to do with the fact that I was in my 20’s then and had a delivery job where I was running around NYC unloading the truck I had loaded in the morning. Not to mention I was training hard too. all of which also adds up to why it didn’t adversely affect my BP.
Now I only take 18-20 mg pre workout with stiff cup of brewed coffee and green tea mixed. It is really hard on insulin sensitivity and if I take it any more than that my blood sugar starts averaging 30-50 points higher. I developed type2 diabetes from drinking, eating like shit and working a desk job for over 10 years after falling off the training wagon. It is now entirely under control.[/quote]
Yeah I went through a long phase of "Joe Cool" partying and eating like shit after clubbing etc..glad you got it under control bro. Where do you get your ephedrine?
I don't think that other guy is accurate saying you don't need to fill out the ID fax/email...Almost everytime I did it they won't go through until you do.
I did find a place last time that had it w/out having to do that though...I have to dig it up out of the tool box where I stash certain paperwork like that...It's just expensive now like everyone say though, which really sucks...
Sound like a cool guy Trib, I've read a lot of your posts and they're always accurate and informative.
later bro.
Tonebone