Can’t Sleep Longer Than 4hrs Without AI

The body creates cancer where cells which turns against each other, so is cancer your friend?

This comment is the very definition of a blanket statement without regard for accuracy and is very one sided coming from someone who is unable to see the full picture.

The answer is both on the forums and the doctors, I compare with what I am seeing on these forums and what the doctors are saying, but no two doctors are going to see the same things because people perceive reality differently.

Well when the member returns with great results, that kind of validates things and when you can repeat success in others, it’s the right call even if somebody comes along and trashes your recommendations.

I’m here everyday and you are pop in here from time to time and maybe if you spent more time on T-Nation you would start to see what tends to works the majority of the time. I have a template that I use to start people out and adjust as we go.

I’ve read and learned a lot, not just from literature, but from “real life” via trial and error which is how doctors become good at TRT.

This sounds like a personal problem. You should see my statement below about androgen/estrogen balance and other factors at play in my recommendations.

No offense, this is too simple minded and tells me you see life in black and white and wonder why you can not make sense of your world.

Most of the time I see low SHBG men do better on daily and EOD injections, rarely do I see them do good on weekly dosing, but it does happen from time to time. Your SHBG is the balance between androgens and estrogens, so there’s no arguing with the facts. Sure other things like body fat and genes come into play.

Her you go system. Tell me where do you come up with this. You think his body cannot clear out estrogen.

Its been 10 days. you think that a man that gets off an ai and it should magically start producing benefits. Instead of telling him “just give it more time for the body to adapt”. you tell him to lower his dose and the body is unable to clear out estrogen. clear out?

Instead of realizing that his body is changing and the body will adapt to the new balance of hormones. you say it won’t work because the body can’t handle it. you dont even know what his levels are at.

im just going to leave this here for you. so you can look at why I respond and critique you. This doesn’t make sense and im sure most would agree.

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Hes spiking estrogen? what about all the other hormones. what about his receptors. Its just estrogen. without any proof you are blindly blaming estorgen. I see why you are doing it and its obvious, but what about the fact that his body is simply adapting to this new found hormone balance he has. it takes time man. this is why men who start trt are told to wait 2-3 months. Their symptoms resolve. its not due to estrogen. Estrogen is part of it. Because it’s one of the hormones that’s fluxing in the body in relation to others. usuallu they are not used to having such a healthy dose of hormones and the body needs time to adapt. we both know it doesn’t happen over night. This is what im talking about system. Your comments are not making any sense to me. You are also taking my comments out of context.

I said its not the estrogen. because its not. there’s a reason why we tell men to come off an AI. They dont need to block their estrogen and will feel better . They always do. It takes time.

I hope you are trying to understand what I’m saying because I read your post and I do understand your points. I just disageee because I feel they are not very good and you are making too many assumptions.

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This is simple, he is well beyond the E2 rebound effect at 10 days out. I come up with this stuff which is based off knowledge, something you are in short supply.

Yes injectable testosterone spikes estrogen is an unusual way not seen in any other form of TRT, this is well known.

You can eat your words when @bigjtrt reports back and I’ll say I told you so and if I do this enough, maybe you’ll start to see I have a very good formula.

I also had a good formula for predicting your future, you’ll never change.

And still from time to time I wonder whether it can be too much when HCG is taken into the game. It produces massive amounts of e2 in the testicles at east with me. Last time I checked e2 was 80, now can be 100 who knows.
I seem to have no high e2 symptoms except I consider whether it can have something to do with my sleep issues. A few people have suggested that. Or maybe the too high test is causing it or both the too high test and too high e2…