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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wasn’t aware until this thread that it was “bad” for a 32 year old to have sex with an 18 year old.

It is LEGAL.

Isn’t that all that matters socially?

Anything else is a personal issue it seems.[/quote]

You are right, it is legal. It also means you like to have sex with barely not children. If you are okay with that I guess it is on you. It is predatory IMO.[/quote]

College age is not “barely not children”?

You serious with this? Most 18 year old girls I knew were doing shit most 30 years olds today would not do.

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[quote]sonnyp wrote:
I think most of the men on this thread would be ashamed to tell thier mothers/daughters/sisters that they think it is OK for a man in his thirties to have sex with an 18 year old girl.[/quote]

Why would they be ashamed by this?

It is legal? Any shame in it is what you bring to it.

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wasn’t aware until this thread that it was “bad” for a 32 year old to have sex with an 18 year old.

It is LEGAL.

Isn’t that all that matters socially?

Anything else is a personal issue it seems.[/quote]

Like I said, just because something isn’t subject to prosecution doesn’t mean it isn’t socially unacceptable. It’s not illegal to shout obscenities at old ladies or walk with you dirty underwear on your head, but it is not exactly socially acceptable either. Much of our day to day behaviour is governed by social convention as opposed to by law. Why is this such a stretch?[/quote]

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Dude, what if the 31 year old looks 25 and the 18 year old does also? Is it ok then?

What if you would never know unless looking at id, is it ok then?

[quote]

These threads are about people’s opinions, all the more so when they begin by someone asking for opinions. People form opinions/make judgments of other people’s actions based on common social conventions and personal value systems that aren’t necessarily enforceable by law. They may then proceed to express those opinions in a forum where the issue is being discussed. It’s all “a personal issue”. If the OP disregards the opinions of others (which he almost certainly will if they don’t support his own desires), that’s his completely prerogative.

What’s the big deal?[/quote]

No big deal. This is just a discussion.

Testosterone is simply involved.

Sorry for bringing so much in.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
For those of you who think college age women are innocent and sleeping with them is “predatory,” I’d suggest you read up on Yale SWUGs (Single Washed-up Upperyear Girl). This isn’t a Yale specific thing, only the term originated there

Basically they are girls who’ve been hooked up a ton and feel they are washed up at the tender age of 21.

[/quote]

Yeah, that article totally sells me on how positive and constructive it is for young girls to have tons of sex. I so want my daughter to be an apathetic borderline alcoholic whose spirit has been crushed by excessive partying and promiscuity and so has given up on relationships and ever finding love or even sexual gratification by the time she’s 21. That article describes a SWUG as a girl who has “been through the meat grinder”. Sounds awesome. I’m so glad our daughters have been “empowered” to do that. No one’s getting hurt at all.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wasn’t aware until this thread that it was “bad” for a 32 year old to have sex with an 18 year old.

It is LEGAL.

Isn’t that all that matters socially?

Anything else is a personal issue it seems.[/quote]

Like I said, just because something isn’t subject to prosecution doesn’t mean it isn’t socially unacceptable. It’s not illegal to shout obscenities at old ladies or walk with you dirty underwear on your head, but it is not exactly socially acceptable either. Much of our day to day behaviour is governed by social convention as opposed to by law. Why is this such a stretch?[/quote]

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Dude, what if the 31 year old looks 25 and the 18 year old does also? Is it ok then?

What if you would never know unless looking at id, is it ok then?
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Yes. If there’s any doubt, check an ID, but that’s relative to legal risk, not “social” risk.

Not every 18yo girl behaves like “an 18yo girl”. People are different. Every relationship is different.

I dated a 20yo girl for a few months (I was/am 29). Her parents knew, my parents knew; for that matter, her parents were glad I was treating her well. In some respects, she was more mature than girls my age, in other respects, she wasn’t.

If you’re just using a girl for selfish reasons, e.g., “I want to sleep with an 18yo girl because 18yo girls are hot and it’ll make me feel better about myself”… then I have an issue with that. But I have an issue with that no matter what age she is.

If nobody’s being used, and both are getting things they want out of it, I don’t really think age matters.

But if you’re taking advantage of her naivete, or otherwise trying to con her to sleep with you… that’s much more of a problem.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wasn’t aware until this thread that it was “bad” for a 32 year old to have sex with an 18 year old.

It is LEGAL.

Isn’t that all that matters socially?

Anything else is a personal issue it seems.[/quote]

You are right, it is legal. It also means you like to have sex with barely not children. If you are okay with that I guess it is on you. It is predatory IMO.[/quote]

College age is not “barely not children”?

You serious with this? Most 18 year old girls I knew were doing shit most 30 years olds today would not do.[/quote]

I was talking 18 and under. Yes, 18 is barely not a child mentally no matter their level of sexual experience. Have you talked to many 18 year old girls lately?

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
For those of you who think college age women are innocent and sleeping with them is “predatory,” I’d suggest you read up on Yale SWUGs (Single Washed-up Upperyear Girl). This isn’t a Yale specific thing, only the term originated there

Basically they are girls who’ve been hooked up a ton and feel they are washed up at the tender age of 21.

[/quote]

Yeah, that article totally sells me on how positive and constructive it is for young girls to have tons of sex. I so want my daughter to be an apathetic borderline alcoholic whose spirit has been crushed by excessive partying and promiscuity and so has given up on relationships and ever finding love or even sexual gratification by the time she’s 21. That article describes a SWUG as a girl who has “been through the meat grinder”. Sounds awesome. I’m so glad our daughters have been “empowered” to do that. No one’s getting hurt at all.
[/quote]

What if…she turned 18 and met an Air Force major when he rescued her on a plane hijacking and single handedly pulled her back into the plane and saved her life…who has no kids, never been married, has a genius IQ, looks like “random good looking white guy”, has great sense of humor and your daughter freaking loves.

Let’s assume he also comes with a crystal ball or chinese fortune cookie that says he will be rich in the next 10 years and will never hurt your daughter and she will be happy for all time.

You would restrict this union based on age alone?

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wasn’t aware until this thread that it was “bad” for a 32 year old to have sex with an 18 year old.

It is LEGAL.

Isn’t that all that matters socially?

Anything else is a personal issue it seems.[/quote]

You are right, it is legal. It also means you like to have sex with barely not children. If you are okay with that I guess it is on you. It is predatory IMO.[/quote]

College age is not “barely not children”?

You serious with this? Most 18 year old girls I knew were doing shit most 30 years olds today would not do.[/quote]

I was talking 18 and under. Yes, 18 is barely not a child mentally no matter their level of sexual experience. Have you talked to many 18 year old girls lately?[/quote]

Dude, I know I was no idiot at that age. I don’t care what average is.

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
For those of you who think college age women are innocent and sleeping with them is “predatory,” I’d suggest you read up on Yale SWUGs (Single Washed-up Upperyear Girl). This isn’t a Yale specific thing, only the term originated there

Basically they are girls who’ve been hooked up a ton and feel they are washed up at the tender age of 21.

[/quote]

Yeah, that article totally sells me on how positive and constructive it is for young girls to have tons of sex. I so want my daughter to be an apathetic borderline alcoholic whose spirit has been crushed by excessive partying and promiscuity and so has given up on relationships and ever finding love or even sexual gratification by the time she’s 21. That article describes a SWUG as a girl who has “been through the meat grinder”. Sounds awesome. I’m so glad our daughters have been “empowered” to do that. No one’s getting hurt at all.
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I’m not making a value judgement on hookup culture.

What I was trying to do was dispel the notion that the average 18 year old girl is “innocent” and sleeping with her is “predatory” behavior.

An 18 year old girl is not a child. You shouldn’t waste time trying to shame older men for preferring you nubile ADULT chicks.

Instead teach your daughter to make wiser choices.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wasn’t aware until this thread that it was “bad” for a 32 year old to have sex with an 18 year old.

It is LEGAL.

Isn’t that all that matters socially?

Anything else is a personal issue it seems.[/quote]

You are right, it is legal. It also means you like to have sex with barely not children. If you are okay with that I guess it is on you. It is predatory IMO.[/quote]

College age is not “barely not children”?

You serious with this? Most 18 year old girls I knew were doing shit most 30 years olds today would not do.[/quote]

I was talking 18 and under. Yes, 18 is barely not a child mentally no matter their level of sexual experience. Have you talked to many 18 year old girls lately?[/quote]

Dude, I know I was no idiot at that age. I don’t care what average is. [/quote]

You obviously don’t have daughters. If you are 32 and show up at my house with my teenage daughter don’t expect a warm welcome.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wasn’t aware until this thread that it was “bad” for a 32 year old to have sex with an 18 year old.

It is LEGAL.

Isn’t that all that matters socially?

Anything else is a personal issue it seems.[/quote]

You are right, it is legal. It also means you like to have sex with barely not children. If you are okay with that I guess it is on you. It is predatory IMO.[/quote]

College age is not “barely not children”?

You serious with this? Most 18 year old girls I knew were doing shit most 30 years olds today would not do.[/quote]

I was talking 18 and under. Yes, 18 is barely not a child mentally no matter their level of sexual experience. Have you talked to many 18 year old girls lately?[/quote]

Dude, I know I was no idiot at that age. I don’t care what average is. [/quote]

You obviously don’t have daughters. If you are 32 and show up at my house with my teenage daughter don’t expect a warm welcome.
[/quote]

Dude, we understand “Dad-shit”.

That doesn’t mean you should make choices for THE COUNTRY based on your own daughter.

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…and I spent two whole minutes on this scenario so I really want an answer.

[quote]What if…she turned 18 and met an Air Force major when he rescued her on a plane hijacking and single handedly pulled her back into the plane and saved her life…who has no kids, never been married, has a genius IQ, looks like “random good looking white guy”, has great sense of humor and your daughter freaking loves.

Let’s assume he also comes with a crystal ball or chinese fortune cookie that says he will be rich in the next 10 years and will never hurt your daughter and she will be happy for all time.

You would restrict this union based on age alone?[/quote]

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

Just because something’s legal doesn’t mean it’s not socially inappropriate/creepy. It’s perfectly legal for a man of any age to look at little girls at the swimming pool, so long as he just looks. It’s still creepy.[/quote]

Question…isn’t it “creepy” because of our current society only?

[quote]

I have known a number of girls who were having sex with men in their 20’s and 30’s while they were still in their (sometimes early) teens. I didn’t find the dynamic to be especially empowering. Actually a couple of them ended up as drug addicted prostitutes, but I digress. The “1/2 your age + 7” rule is obviously not legally binding, but it is socially sensible in most cases, IMO. Especially in our society where an 18 year old is still allowed to be a child in many respects.

If my daughter at 18 years of age were to bring home a dude in his 30’s, I would have no legal recourse, but I would find it to be very uncool. If that makes me unenlightened, so be it, I’m OK with that.[/quote]

You seemed to miss the point. Our current society sees it as bad…so of course you would often find really younger girls associated with sex to have been in bad situations.

That is because sex at a young age is bad IN THIS ERA.

200 years ago, a girl having sex at the age of 14-16 wasn’t exactly being reported to police.

It is highly possible in the future the age of consent will be reduced and people will not see that as “creepy”.[/quote]
The thing about this society though is that we live in it

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

What I was trying to do was dispel the notion that the average 18 year old girl is “innocent” and sleeping with her is “predatory” behavior.

[/quote]

And yet you didn’t. What you showed is that some 18 year old girls are not mature enough to make wise choices.

I’m no prude, but there have always been slutty girls. Doesn’t mean they are the majority or that I should appreciate some creeper trying to bed my daughter. Fortunately, most girls that young that I know response to guys that age is “EWWWWW”

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:

The thing about this society though is that we live in it[/quote]

We do…which is why we know it is changing.

Yeah, in the 1950’s maybe 18 meant “pure as driven snow”

Now, it means Girls Gone Wild and water pistols being shot into places that your grandparents didn’t see until wedding night.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I wasn’t aware until this thread that it was “bad” for a 32 year old to have sex with an 18 year old.

It is LEGAL.

Isn’t that all that matters socially?

Anything else is a personal issue it seems.[/quote]

Like I said, just because something isn’t subject to prosecution doesn’t mean it isn’t socially unacceptable. It’s not illegal to shout obscenities at old ladies or walk with you dirty underwear on your head, but it is not exactly socially acceptable either. Much of our day to day behaviour is governed by social convention as opposed to by law. Why is this such a stretch?[/quote]

?

Dude, what if the 31 year old looks 25 and the 18 year old does also? Is it ok then?

What if you would never know unless looking at id, is it ok then?

[quote]

These threads are about people’s opinions, all the more so when they begin by someone asking for opinions. People form opinions/make judgments of other people’s actions based on common social conventions and personal value systems that aren’t necessarily enforceable by law. They may then proceed to express those opinions in a forum where the issue is being discussed. It’s all “a personal issue”. If the OP disregards the opinions of others (which he almost certainly will if they don’t support his own desires), that’s his completely prerogative.

What’s the big deal?[/quote]

No big deal. This is just a discussion.

Testosterone is simply involved.

Sorry for bringing so much in.[/quote]

For starters, I an OK with casually checking out girls who are not necessarily in your own “age appropriate” range provided they are old enough to be sexually mature (i.e 17-18 or thereabouts). When I mentioned the guy checking out little girls at the swimming pool, I was meaning girls who aren’t age appropriate for anybody (i.e. tweens). Guys who do this are straight up creepy but not doing anything illegal. If Our society at some point shifts to accept this type of thing as not creepy, then we have fucked it up.

I’m 34 and I certainly notice girls who are well outside what I consider my age appropriate range. I don’t feel bad about this. They look amazing. If a hypothetical guy in his 30’s ends up having sex with a girl who is too young for him by that standard, I really don’t think it’s the end of the world either. If a guy that age sets out to deliberately “target” way younger girls, yes, I think that’s uncool. Not illegal or even deeply wrong, just really uncool.

I am OK with the amount of testosterone you’re bringing. Carry on.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

What I was trying to do was dispel the notion that the average 18 year old girl is “innocent” and sleeping with her is “predatory” behavior.

[/quote]

And yet you didn’t. What you showed is that some 18 year old girls are not mature enough to make wise choices.

I’m no prude, but there have always been slutty girls. Doesn’t mean they are the majority or that I should appreciate some creeper trying to bed my daughter. Fortunately, most girls that young that I know response to guys that age is “EWWWWW”
[/quote]

Really?

What if he looked like Brad Pitt?

That is another thing that has really changed lately…older guys still getting younger chicks even easier.

Many of the top action stars lately are way past their 20’s.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
For those of you who think college age women are innocent and sleeping with them is “predatory,” I’d suggest you read up on Yale SWUGs (Single Washed-up Upperyear Girl). This isn’t a Yale specific thing, only the term originated there

Basically they are girls who’ve been hooked up a ton and feel they are washed up at the tender age of 21.

[/quote]

Yeah, that article totally sells me on how positive and constructive it is for young girls to have tons of sex. I so want my daughter to be an apathetic borderline alcoholic whose spirit has been crushed by excessive partying and promiscuity and so has given up on relationships and ever finding love or even sexual gratification by the time she’s 21. That article describes a SWUG as a girl who has “been through the meat grinder”. Sounds awesome. I’m so glad our daughters have been “empowered” to do that. No one’s getting hurt at all.
[/quote]

What if…she turned 18 and met an Air Force major when he rescued her on a plane hijacking and single handedly pulled her back into the plane and saved her life…who has no kids, never been married, has a genius IQ, looks like “random good looking white guy”, has great sense of humor and your daughter freaking loves.

Let’s assume he also comes with a crystal ball or chinese fortune cookie that says he will be rich in the next 10 years and will never hurt your daughter and she will be happy for all time.

You would restrict this union based on age alone?[/quote]

Sorry, what does that have to do with the article?

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Look guys, we should get this thread back on track.

Can’t we all just agree that the OP shouldn’t be having sex with any female of any age?

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

When I mentioned the guy checking out little girls at the swimming pool, I was meaning girls who aren’t age appropriate for anybody (i.e. tweens). Guys who do this are straight up creepy but not doing anything illegal. If Our society at some point shifts to accept this type of thing as not creepy, then we have fucked it up.[/quote]

OK…but again, try going to a high school especially in a suburban area.

I work down the street from a majority Hispanic high school. Many of those girls could easily pass for their mid 20’s.

That is why I questioned how they look and if that affects your decision.

If you didn’t know, it would not be “creepy”, right?

If it is legal, I am not looking down on it.