Calories, Fitbit and WTF!?

Nutrition
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Creating Your Own Definition

I provided you with reliable definitions of “Fad” and “Fad Diet”.

You have decided to create you own definition of “Fad Diet”, reminiscent of Bill Clinton creating his own definition of “Sex”.

Common sense should tell you that something that has been around for 46 years (Atkins) and has current research about it benefits and something that has been around for 16 years (Paleo) is NOT a “Fad” or “Fad Diet”.

Diet Compliance

I acknowledged that the more restrictive a diet is, the less likely someone will be able to maintain it.

I recommended two alternatives: Intermittent Fasting and Lowering Carbohydrate Intake. Other diet alternative may work, as well.

In The Long Run

The majority of individual on ANY diet, eventually quit and regain the weight they lost. Many “Yo-Yo” up and end up weight more than they did prior to dieting.

The percentage of individual who “FAIL on a diet in the long run” is estimated to be from 65% (noted below) to 95%.

The Percentage of People Who Regain Weight After Rapid Weight Loss… . The Percentage of People Who Regain Weight After Rapid Weight Loss and the Risks of Doing So | livestrong

Nearly 65 percent of dieters return to their pre-dieting weight within three years, according to Gary Foster, Ph.D., clinical director of the Weight and Eating Disorders Program at the University of Pennsylvania.

U.S. Weight Loss Market Worth $66 Billion

The “Weight Loss Industry” grows exponentially each year. That due to the fact the majority in individual “Fail in the long run”, then eventually try something a new diet.

In 2017 approximately $66.3 billion was spent on “Weight Loss Methods”. That is why Jenny Craig, Nutrisystem, Weight Watchers, and the various "Weight Loss Products continue to flourish.

CDC: 80 percent of American adults don’t get recommended exercise

The 80/20% applies to everything. Research shows that only around 20% of individual maintain an exercise program.

The remaining 80% either start/stop or never do anything.

Take Home Message

In the long run the majority of individual fail with any diet and exercise program.

Never In Ketosis

It takes more than two days to get into ketosis. It takes at least 3 day, sometimes longer.

Secondly, the majority of individual who try a Ketogenic Diet are never on a Ketogenic Diet. That due to…

Gluconeogenesis

The issue is they consume too much protein and not enough fat. What they end up on is a High Protein, High Fat, Low Carbohydrate Diet.

When too much protein is consumed in conjunction with low carbohydrates, the body converts protein into glucose. You are not in ketosis.

To ensure protein is NOT converted into glucose, 25% or less of your calories must be obtained from protein, Moderate Protein Intake.

To ensure fat is the predominate fuel source, High Fat fat (70% plus) needs to be ingested. Research shows that High Fat Intake combined with Moderate Protein and Low Carbohydrates safeguard protein being converted into glucose (Glueoneogenesis); which means you are NOT in ketosis.

Research (Drs Jeff Volek (PhD Nutrition) and Stephen Phinney (Medical Doctor, PhD) demonstrate Leucine levels remain elevated on a Ketogenic Diet.

Leucine is an amino acid that trigger muscle growth (mTor, Mamallian Target of Rapamycin).

With in mind, let me state that like the majority of individual who “Tried the Ketogenic Diet”, I screwed it up a few times before I got it right.

NO

A banana has around 20 gram of carbohydrates.

Eating one banana will not take you out of ketosis as long as your daily consumption of carbohydrates is 50 grams or less.

With that said let me reiterate…

My Ketogenic Diet Thoughts

  1. The Ketogenic Diet provides some great health benefits.

  2. The Ketogenic Diet is a “Bitch” due to it demanding restrictive nature.

  3. As you noted, individual fall off the Ketogenic Diet faster than with other diets that are less demanding.

That is why I do NOT recommend the diet.

Overall Knowledge

Overall, you have a good foundation of knowledge. You just need to explore more of the research on this topic.

Kenny Croxdale

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Let me reword what I meant by you are reading too far into my usage of the term “fad diet.” I meant that I was using it colloquially. Would you rather me use the term popular diet systems, which are oftentimes restrictive. Its simpler and accurate ENOUGH to say fad diet.

I don’t know a lot about the ketogenic diet. I just knew the idea of how it works, but not all these details. So this is helpful. Thank you. What I knew before this is that you try to eat no more than 50 grams of carbohydrates a day and you get most of your calories from fats and moderate protein and the point is that you are forcing your body to use fat as a fuel source rather than carbohydrates so if you are able to stick to it for awhile, which is very difficult, you can burn a lot of fat. I didn’t know all the numbers like 70% fat for example. Thats good to know. I still think that whether people try it long enough to get into ketosis or not, they should still try following a ketogenic diet for a little bit just because it teaches you how much food is full of carbs. People who think eating 1 cheese burger a day is healthy will learn how unhealthy it is, but they are probably not the people who will be trying ketogenic diets. haha.

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Popular Diet

This term is equally as vague and meaning less.

Fad Diet

As we’ve discussed, this is incredibly inaccurate and vague.

Definitions

Without definitions, words and terms have little meaning.

Communicating with anyone on a topic is impossible when one individual define words and terms with their own definition rather than using the correct definition.

It takes us back the analogy of Bill Clinton stating that he didn’t have sex with Monica Lewinsky. That because Clinton did not define a “Blow Job”, as sex.

You like Clinton, are have decided to come up with your own definitions for “Popular Diet” and “Fad Diet”.

My Original Definition Request

The basis of my original request for what constituted a “Fad Diet” was/the common error of categorizing certain diets incorrectly, as you did.

To reiterate, the standard definition of “Fad is short lived”. Since Atkins has been around for 46 years (Ketogenic Diets even longer) and Paleo for about 16 years, I and other would consider that a long rather than a short time.

Based on that here is…

The New Question For You

How how many years does a diet/anything need to be in existence before it is considered NOT to be a “Fad”?

Here’s your change to come up with you own definition and set of rules. In future vague responses providing your definitions and setting up rules in your post will be helpful in the discussion. Research define words and terms so that everyone is on the same page.

'“When all else fails, READ the directions.”

That is one of the reason that you never achieved ketosis. You had no idea of the protocol.

Prior to doing anything, you first need to understand how it works.

Carbohydrates

A much easier method of determining how many carbohydrates you are consuming is to…

!) Read the label of the food item.

  1. Look up the nutrition macros online or in a book.

  2. Count the number of carbohydrates you consume in a day.

The Issue With Those TRYING The Ketogenic Diet

They don’t know what they are doing because they didn’t do their home work.

Kenny Croxdale

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I’m done talking about fad diets. Lets agree to disagree. I read another post a couple days ago and someone said something to the effect of “Here comes Kenny Croxdale.” I’m sure you are a cool guy and if we were to ever meet, we would probably get along, but people don’t like Internet forum minutiae symantics correction police. I bet the OP is annoyed that we basically hijacked the post with this discussion. Fad diets are just popular diets, which oftentimes do not work due to their restrictiveness.

I’m not talking about knowing how many carbs you are consuming. I’m talking about learning how many foods have carbs. Yes, people should read labels when they are on diets or just in general people would be healthier if they read a label and decided whether or not to eat something after reading all the ingredients. People on diets should definitely count the number of carbs they eat each day, but what I was alluding to was that going a few days with minimal carbs teaches you how dependant most people are on carbs and when you are forced to avoid them you notice how many foods are full of lots of carbs. It becomes much more “real” for you than just looking at a number on your calorie tracking app. For me, I was used to bulking with lots of carbs. When I tried eating ketogenically, it was surprising how many foods I couldn’t eat after getting the 50g of carbs in and its easy to eat 50g of carbs in one meal. Eating 1 serving of oatmeal has approximately 35g so if you have that then the last 15g can go pretty quickly. Just from eating an apple along with the oatmeal then you are very close to 50g.

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Fad Diets

You have come up with you own definition of “Fad Diet”.

Your disagreement is with the the definitions of Websters Dictionary and Wikipedia, not me

Oxymoron

The most “Popular Diet” in American is the “Traditional Western Diet” (High Carbohydrate, High Fat, Fairly High Protein, Definitively High Calorie).

There is nothing restrictive about most popular “Traditional Western Diet”.

It is Unrestricted with “Super Sized” proportions. .

Tried

As you stated, “I tried it for a couple days awhile ago and failed to stay in ketosis.”

You didn’t TRY it long enough to get into ketosis. Nothing works it a couple of days.

You Didn’t Know What You Were Doing

In your own words, “I didn’t know all the numbers like 70% fat for example”.

This is another reason that you failed. You didn’t do your homework. You did NOT know the Protein and Fat Percentage that needed to be implemented to ensure that you would be able to enter ketosis and remain it it.

The majority of individuals don’t know and initially get it wrong. As I note, initially I did too.

The Blame Game

One of the main issues with lifters is that they take no responsibility for bad decisions.

When a program doesn’t, they immediately blame the program. It wasn’t there fault

Ironically, the majority of the time, a program doesn’t work because the individual implemented it incorrectly.

“Garbage in. Garbage Out.”

I am a member in good standing with this club. It one of the unpleasant part of the learning.

Example

One year, I wrote a new Deadlift program based on a new concept for me, Complex Training. In doing so, I increased my Deadlift from 540 lbs to 595 lbs.

The following year, I modified it to an Advanced Complex Training Deadlift Program. I took my Deadlift from 595 lbs back down to 550 lbs.

In reviewing how I wrote the program, I came to the conclusion that it was fundamentally right but had been misapplied, written incorrectly it. The problem was me.

It was somewhat like baking a cake. I had all the right ingredients but had put in the wrong amounts.

I rewrote my Advance Complex Training Deadlift Training Program. In doing so, I ended increasing my Deadlift to 617 lbs.

Thomas Edison

As per Edison, "Failure means that I am eliminating what doesn’t work and moving closer to find out what does work. "

Summary

  1. Yes, I am a bit blunt.

  2. In the majority of my post, I usually provide references to support my position.

  3. You have an overall good knowledge base but you need to add to it.

  4. Leaning is best accomplished when a multitude of research on a topic is analyzed/cross referenced and first hand knowledge is gain with practical “Hand On Experience”.

Kenny Croxdale

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You clearly don’t know the definition of try. This is the definition “make an attempt or effort to do something.” I never said I was successful. In fact, I said I failed at it. What is your beef with me saying everyone should try eating ketogenically. I’m just saying whether you are truly in ketosis or not, restricting yourself to eat like that teaches you a lot. It seems dumb that you would trash me advocating trying it when you use it.

A bit blunt is an understatement. You are coming across as arrogant and closed minded. You don’t seem to grasp the fact that there are conflicting opinions about diet and most have different science backing them up. Its good you provide references. With your attitude, you need it. I never said I was a dietician and have a Ph.D in nutrition, but I’m pretty sure I have a solid basic understanding. I don’t think you grasp that ocassionally, diet is just as much of an art as it is a science and its definitely a science. Some diets and tools to diet work better for someone than someone else. I know how to learn. Thanks man.

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A Definition

Well done. Evidently, you are discourage and give up quickly.

It’s hard to succeed at anything when you only try it for a couple of days.

Close Minded

Yes, I am close minded toward ignorance.

However, I am inquisitive with diet, exercise and training methods.

I follow the protocol that I recommend to you. I examine and cross reference research on topics.

Great. References provide support and data for information presented.

You provided one reference. Will you be following you own recommendation in the future or defaulting to “According to me”.

Show me. Don’t tell me.

It up to you to take your learning to the next level. You are the only one who can do it.

This concludes our discussion on this.

Good luck.

Kenny Croxdale