[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
The roots of the KKK are true enough with the south and democratic party, but I think you would find more of the current aryan or KKK related groups fall in line with the current far radical right type thinking.[/quote]
That is pure conjecture on your part. Personally, I don’t think either party represents the views of these racists. For that I am thankful!
Wow, you are really stretching it. My point for the third time: When you see people like Michael Moore who is no less an ultra liberal than Jane Fonda being embraced by the democratic party you know that the party has some problems. Foremer democrat Ronald Reagan said it best: “I didn’t leave the democratic party…they left me!”
And keep in mind I don’t “hate” anyone. However, I do believe that one party is correct on the majority of issues and one party is wrong. The party that is correct currently holds power in all branches of government.
Hey jeffy, I think today’s Strong Words must have been posted with you in mind. The whole little-mind, small-circle thing just kind of screamed “jeffy” when I first saw it.
[quote]vroom wrote:
The elections have been extremely close affairs. There is no arguing with who won, but you shouldn’t go around thinking it was a landslide.[/quote]
I don’t think he stated that there were any landslides. However, when one party controls all branches of government that says quite a lot about the opposing party!
No actually both parties are very adept at playing dirty. We have both seen examples of this in the past. For every instance you give that the republicans have played dirty, I can give you one where the democrats have played just as dirty. And no I am not for this sort of thing, it just happens to be the way politics is played, sad but true.
Yes, they are allowed to speak their mind as US citizens. However, they can also be classified as “ultra liberals” because of the extreme positions that they have taken. And…obviously Michael Moore is quite respected with in the democratic party…I wonder how many votes that cost Kerry?
The republicans will in fact “smear them in this way.” However, the democrats will smear in return…so don’t worry to much about it.
Yes, kick away, but republicans will return fire! (um…that’s politics…)
There are no “tactics” at present. The fact that Jane Fonda who is an ultra liberal is now sounding off about the war will do damage to the democratic party. All the republicans have to do is sit back and enjoy this one.
What is it that they say? Never get in the way of your opponent when he is harming himself!
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
orion wrote:
methinks there are some serious disadvantages to a two party system…
A lot of you guys have an amazing us-or-them attitude…
You are right. It seems to be us or them. That is not how I feel, but it sure comes across that way over the internet.
I think both parties have good and bad points.[/quote]
I agree. Both parties certainly do have good and bad points. American politics is in a dismal state right now. It is possibly more partisan than ever. And the leadership on both sides seems very extreme to me. There are moderates and voices of reason in both parties but they don’t seem to be the ones in positions of authority.
[quote]Cream wrote:
Elkhntr1 wrote:
On a serious note, all kidding aside. You are very sick and need help. With the hatred you show, I wouldn’t put it past you to attempt something very foolish and dangerous to someone like John Kerry or Ted Kennedy or Fonda for that matter. Get the help you need!
Steroids…
220 pounds…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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jerffy, it was 215 you gave me five pounds there. Anyway, I implore you to get the help you need before you hurt someone. I really don’t care if you hurt yourself at this point, but I see the very real danger of you losing it and hurting others… you need help!!!
What I’m saying is that people like Michael Moore and Jane Fonda should be allowed to be seen as nothing other than people with a viewpoint.
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Right. Michael Moore and Jane Fonda do not represent the democratic party whatever they might believe. Last time I checked, weren’t running for office. If they were, not many democrats would vote for them.
[quote]vroom wrote:
No, that isn’t why they keep losing elections. The elections have been extremely close affairs. There is no arguing with who won, but you shouldn’t go around thinking it was a landslide.
They are losing because they have allowed the republicans free hand with the tactics of deflect, distract, discredit and mischaracterize.
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Vroom - either stay on topic, or get out. You have no freaking idea what youa re talking about. The elections that the dems have been losing steadily since 1994 have nothing to do with the Presidential Elections. They have lost seats in the House AND the Senate, as well as governorships, state houses, and even county elections.
You ignorance of the American electorate should land you in jail, or at the very least a ban from writing in the political threqads for a year.
[quote]Elkhntr1 wrote:
On a serious note, all kidding aside. You are very sick and need help. With the hatred you show, I wouldn’t put it past you to attempt something very foolish and dangerous to someone like John Kerry or Ted Kennedy or Fonda for that matter. Get the help you need![/quote]
Why does having a strong or extreme opinion or being angry or having hatred make you sick or dangerous? You said you don’t care if he hurts himself. Do you care if someone hurts Kerry, Kennedy or Fonda. I wouldn’t. Especially Kennedy. He killed someone with his cowerdice, lies, and neglagence and done some shitty shit to our country. Something like that is never worth it though. Your anger and actions seem stupid in hindsight.
This may be naive , but i think that an appeal to the Iraqi people is in order. Its fine if you keep killing our troops and your own police ect but we are here to help and you will be twisting our arm’s to get us to leave. If you do that you will have a civil war and a much crappier country than you have ever realized ; do you want this to happen?
Second thought, the cause to pull out will be started by nuts like Jane Fonda but VERY SOON its going to have a bigger and broader apppeal.
What I’m saying is that people like Michael Moore and Jane Fonda should be allowed to be seen as nothing other than people with a viewpoint.
So, thanks for the lecture, but I think I already said what you were trying to tell me.[/quote]
If all you stated was the above I would agree with it.
However, you had more to say. Especially the slam on republican mischaracterization. It’s not a mischaracterization to point out the fact that they are both ultra liberal in their political views.
“Why does having a strong or extreme opinion or being angry or having hatred make you sick or dangerous? You said you don’t care if he hurts himself. Do you care if someone hurts Kerry, Kennedy or Fonda. I wouldn’t. Especially Kennedy. He killed someone with his cowerdice, lies, and neglagence and done some shitty shit to our country. Something like that is never worth it though. Your anger and actions seem stupid in hindsight.”
Hey, Pretzel. I appreciate your support.
My liberal friends cannot argue the points. They love to try to marginalize people who don’t “conform.”
Personally, I use their insults and silly little put downs as a sign that I’m on the right track.
I welcome the little nasties!!!
e-hater,
I would not do bodily harm to the people you mentioned. They do more to make a mockery of your party than just about anything.
However, gin nosed ted should have been put in jail forever.
I hope you don’t disagree with that.
By the way, did you say you are 215 pounds ON STEROIDS?
What I’m saying is that people like Michael Moore and Jane Fonda should be allowed to be seen as nothing other than people with a viewpoint.
Right. Michael Moore and Jane Fonda do not represent the democratic party whatever they might believe. Last time I checked, weren’t running for office. If they were, not many democrats would vote for them.
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They do not officially “represent” the democratic party. However, when you have a party Chairman screaming that the war in Iraq is wrong it seems that they are both singing the same tune as the democratic party. And an association can be made!
jerffy, just keep on talking your snide juvenile remarks show the nature of your character. I don’t believe for one minute you are a cop. You display the nature of a coward who has to make up an identity because your real one is so lacking in anything redeemable. I pity the sad pathetic character you are.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
“Jeff, how would you define close-minded, extremist moron? Or do you just prefer to lead by example?”
Well, well, well.
Welcome to the party!!!
I haven’t noticed you before.
Would you like to add something to the discussion, or continue to act like the snot-nosed, little boy throwing rocks at the sun?
Let me know.
JeffR
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You haven’t noticed him before you pathetic imposter because you have never stepped outside of the political forums. Not even when “cops” were asking for help.