It is just a matter of time before it tracks all vehicles in real time, and it can already track you if you use something like onstar or have a phone with GPS on if it wants to.[/quote]
That’s why, when I bought my car I was happy it didn’t have the technology package on it, even though the tech pack has some really cool features I would like to have, but it also puts you on the grid.
I would like to have the ‘track apps’ option. It’s pretty cool, it can track you 0-60 times,1/4 mile times, lateral and horizontal g-forces, even your cylinder head temps. It would be nice to have them, but it’s connected with Ford Sync and puts me on the grid. I’d rather not be on the grid… [/quote]
Dude, not to be a dick, but if you carry a cell phone, and it has a battery with power, whether on or off, connected… The government can pinpoint your location where that phone has GPS or not.
Some will probably specialize in taking out the GPS to avoid the tax, and others will register the car in a state without the tracking. Many workarounds, and the privacy issue will destroy it.
The most fair alternative is toll roads, but implementing those is expensive, it will be years before they get back the money they use to implement it.
In Norway many road projects is funded partly by toll.
[quote]espenl wrote:
Some will probably specialize in taking out the GPS to avoid the tax, and others will register the car in a state without the tracking. Many workarounds, and the privacy issue will destroy it.
The most fair alternative is toll roads, but implementing those is expensive, it will be years before they get back the money they use to implement it.
In Norway many road projects is funded partly by toll.[/quote]
I don’t see how toll roads would be possible in the U.S. At least not for a majority of roads.
It is just a matter of time before it tracks all vehicles in real time, and it can already track you if you use something like onstar or have a phone with GPS on if it wants to.[/quote]
That’s why, when I bought my car I was happy it didn’t have the technology package on it, even though the tech pack has some really cool features I would like to have, but it also puts you on the grid.
I would like to have the ‘track apps’ option. It’s pretty cool, it can track you 0-60 times,1/4 mile times, lateral and horizontal g-forces, even your cylinder head temps. It would be nice to have them, but it’s connected with Ford Sync and puts me on the grid. I’d rather not be on the grid… [/quote]
Dude, not to be a dick, but if you carry a cell phone, and it has a battery with power, whether on or off, connected… The government can pinpoint your location where that phone has GPS or not.
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This^
And what makes the observation more biting, is that sophisticated people, like our posters here, do not even think about cell phone location as a reality and an intrusion.
It is just a matter of time before it tracks all vehicles in real time, and it can already track you if you use something like onstar or have a phone with GPS on if it wants to.[/quote]
That’s why, when I bought my car I was happy it didn’t have the technology package on it, even though the tech pack has some really cool features I would like to have, but it also puts you on the grid.
I would like to have the ‘track apps’ option. It’s pretty cool, it can track you 0-60 times,1/4 mile times, lateral and horizontal g-forces, even your cylinder head temps. It would be nice to have them, but it’s connected with Ford Sync and puts me on the grid. I’d rather not be on the grid… [/quote]
Dude, not to be a dick, but if you carry a cell phone, and it has a battery with power, whether on or off, connected… The government can pinpoint your location where that phone has GPS or not.
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True, but that’s not what’s being proposed here. I can turn my phone off. I can even take out the battery. So if I feel like it’s a problem, I can do something about it. It’s much harder to disable it in a car.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You’re already on the grid, and very much so. [/quote]
Sure I have a social security number, and drivers license, Computers, Wi fi. But I think we’re talking about tracking movements in a car?
I have already very much admitted that we are watched everywhere we go. There are cameras everywhere. Our communications are tracked, etc. If you look up, you will see I am not clueless about the intrusions already in play.
In the end, if somebody wants to track me, they can. I know of ways to drop off of the grid. But I am not yet ready to live that way.
[quote]espenl wrote:
Some will probably specialize in taking out the GPS to avoid the tax, and others will register the car in a state without the tracking. Many workarounds, and the privacy issue will destroy it.
The most fair alternative is toll roads, but implementing those is expensive, it will be years before they get back the money they use to implement it.
In Norway many road projects is funded partly by toll.[/quote]
If they insist on taxing us, I would prefer the old fashioned toll road.