[quote]pookie wrote:
Is anyone on this thread familiar with the process involved in getting a firearm in Canada?
Training? License? Do we even allow people to carry concealed up here?
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check here
[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
Americans scare the shit out of me, not gonna lie.[/quote]
Then stay out.
I suggest a revolver for people that do not enjoy shooting. They take less practice to operate properly.
[quote]yorik wrote:
GunnyBear wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
Americans scare the shit out of me, not gonna lie.
Its how we keep people in line.
“Canada is just America Junior.”
Homer Simpson
I hate it when people say shit like this, because somebody might take them seriously.
Americans have guns because, if push comes to shove, that’s how we will keep the government in line.
The only trouble is the government has bigger guns![/quote]
Do you realy think that is what “to protect against a hostile government” means?
I always took it to mean an invading one, not that armed rebellion is out of the question though either.
[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
Americans scare the shit out of me, not gonna lie.[/quote]
I agree. Seriously, what the fuck? Your accent is weird.
Freaks me out.
AccpQ, the thought of you with a gun scares the crap out of me. That thread you had a while ago about being stalked, how you were working yourself up, you seem like a very jumpy person. Jumpy people shouldn’t own guns, they should own baseball bats.
Do some soul searching - do you really, honestly, in the heat of total fear or surprise, feel that you could responsibly handle a gun? If you just got a threatening call that night, and then some random kid starts kicking on your door being stupid and you’re not expecting it, are you going to get all panicky and shoot him?
With that said, I have a Kahr MK40. It’s not very fun to shoot, but it is small enough to fit my hand and slip anywhere and it’s reliable. The trigger’s annoying though, it’s got a fair bit of recoil (at least for me) and it’s heavy. I got it for free though, so who am I too complain?
[quote]5.0 wrote:
The trigger safety is built in. Meaning the trigger can’t be pulled without an actual finger on it. Ref the photo…[/quote]
The have been negligent discharges while holstering this weapon, when the trigger gets hung up on clothing and such…bewarned…
[quote]5.0 wrote:
The trigger safety is built in. Meaning the trigger can’t be pulled without an actual finger on it. Ref the photo…[/quote]
ya that first trigger is actually the safety,it has to line up with the actual trigger.
also a standard trigger on a glock is about 5 pounds
meaning you have to pull it if you want it to go off
some otheres have “hair triggers” which all you have to do is bump it slightly and it goes off.
it is also true that if it gets hung in a shirt tail or something it can set the weapon off
glocks are made to be fighting weapons so they are not really as safe as others
if you are toatally new get a revolver.
they are harder to dicharge by mistake and also you really do not need 10-15 shots.
a several years ago I had my first and only encounter with my carry peice and I only used 2 shots.
should have used 1 shot but when I line up that bead I pump off 2 in quick timing.
god that was a horrible day BTW.
hopefully you will never have a need for a handgun.
[quote]Nich wrote:
heres mine
.357 highway patrol special its an old duty peice my mom got it in the 70s passed it to me on my 21st bday I refurbed it myself
it is the heaviest,but most accurate peice I have ever handled
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I had a 4 inch version of this back in 77’…It’s accurate bacause it is heavy (better recoil control) and shoots flat (.357 Magnum), however these same qualities are why it was designed to be a “Highway patrol” model, you don’t walk around much with it, but are in the car.
The modern version of the classic “Horse pistol”, This monster would suck to carry otherwise. A remnant of the big-bore craze sparked by the “Dirty Harry” films (not a bad thing, big-bore revolvers are cool, my fave is a classic S&W 1917 Long barrel in .45, using the half-moon clips: combat-accurate, hard hitting, versatile bullet options, controllable & rugged…sights are non existent, but doesn’t matter with that weapon, once trained you can hit anything out to 25 yards with ease, and that big sub-sonic “Bawoom” it makes gets attention with it’s authority.
Mine is G.I. with S&W big wood grips, this pic shows a civilianised version with cut front sight and rubber grips but with the proper long tube)…
[quote]Nich wrote:
5.0 wrote:
The trigger safety is built in. Meaning the trigger can’t be pulled without an actual finger on it. Ref the photo…
ya that first trigger is actually the safety,it has to line up with the actual trigger.
also a standard trigger on a glock is about 5 pounds
meaning you have to pull it if you want it to go off
some otheres have “hair triggers” which all you have to do is bump it slightly and it goes off.[/quote] Unless you mod it with the infamous “New York trigger”(extra heavy pull, those negligent discharges were epeidemic in NYPD till they came up with that option)[quote]
it is also true that if it gets hung in a shirt tail or something it can set the weapon off[/quote]Yup![quote]
glocks are made to be fighting weapons so they are not really as safe as others [/quote]Very true! That’s why they, like Govt. Model chopped clones are “professional guns”, you have to train with them and know your stuff, not safe for the “lazy”[quote]
if you are toatally new get a revolver.
they are harder to dicharge by mistake and also you really do not need 10-15 shots.
a several years ago I had my first and only encounter with my carry peice and I only used 2 shots.
should have used 1 shot but when I line up that bead I pump off 2 in quick timing.
god that was a horrible day BTW.[/quote]I hear and feel ya’, Brudda’…ain’t like the movies at all…[quote]
hopefully you will never have a need for a handgun. [/quote]
[quote]Blacksnake wrote:
Nich wrote:
heres mine
.357 highway patrol special its an old duty peice my mom got it in the 70s passed it to me on my 21st bday I refurbed it myself
it is the heaviest,but most accurate peice I have ever handled
I had a 4 inch version of this back in 77’…It’s accurate bacause it is heavy (better recoil control) and shoots flat (.357 Magnum), however these same qualities are why it was designed to be a “Highway patrol” model, you don’t walk around much with it, but are in the car.
The modern version of the classic “Horse pistol”, This monster would suck to carry otherwise. A remnant of the big-bore craze sparked by the “Dirty Harry” films (not a bad thing, big-bore revolvers are cool, my fave is a classic S&W 1917 Long barrel in .45, using the half-moon clips: combat-accurate, hard hitting, versatile bullet options, controllable & rugged…sights are non existent, but doesn’t matter with that weapon, once trained you can hit anything out to 25 yards with ease, and that big sub-sonic “Bawoom” it makes gets attention with it’s authority.
Mine is G.I. with S&W big wood grips, this pic shows a civilianised version with cut front sight and rubber grips but with the proper long tube)…
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lol you had one about a year before i was born 
I have the S&W model 28-2 its a stripped down model made for police use. they removed all the bells and whistles that were on civvy guns so that an officer could afford it on his pay at the time.
and mine has nothing
no chrome,rubber grips just a basic revolver.
its about due for a re blueing also being that it is about 50 years old,(bought used 30 years ago)
with the .357 mag round I get about 3 inch grouping from 20 yards these things have a wonderful boom and they go at well over 1000 fps I use these when I am out.
using the cooler 38 special round I can get all 6 in just about 2 inches at 20 yards they only go about 800 fps and I use these inside the home when overpenetration may be an issue.
me being as large as i am and also being used to it I carry mine every day,all day.
I am well used to the pounds of weight on my hip it seems like.
I have used it many many times for coyotes and snakes living where I am.
I have used it once in self defense and it has not let me down even with literally 100s of thousands of round trough it with only minor tightning and tuning and regular cleaning.
This is my “to & from work” setup, when danger is highest for me generally (bad A.O./;-). Custom made DeSantis shoulder rig with dual-spare mag pouches (shoulder-rig = better access when sitting position in vehicle). Glock 27 “mini”, 13 round mag option plus 1, spares are 8 rounders (30 rounds total to work with if any serious social situation develops), Sykes-Fairbain commando folder for last-ditch work and of course a flashlight “just in case”. (I tried to take a picture, but they came out crappy, so here is the video version, a little better than the stills)…
[quote]Nich wrote:
lol you had one about a year before i was born
[/quote]Damn young whippersnappers!/;)[quote]
I have the S&W model 28-2 its a stripped down model made for police use. they removed all the bells and whistles that were on civvy guns so that an officer could afford it on his pay at the time.
and mine has nothing
no chrome,rubber grips just a basic revolver.
its about due for a re blueing also being that it is about 50 years old,(bought used 30 years ago)[/quote]There’s something about those basic old “rat” revolvers that give you confidence, you know they will “get the job done”, no frills…[quote]
with the .357 mag round I get about 3 inch grouping from 20 yards these things have a wonderful boom and they go at well over 1000 fps I use these when I am out.[/quote] More like a “zing-blam” with those hi-vel .357’s!!, like the sound effect they dub in all those old “spaghetti westerns”/;-)[quote]
using the cooler 38 special round I can get all 6 in just about 2 inches at 20 yards they only go about 800 fps and I use these inside the home when overpenetration may be an issue.[/quote] Suggestion: I use Federal .38 SPL “Nyclad” rounds in my snubby old-sckool all steel S&W “Bodyguard”. These standard speed loads work well, buy a box and blast a wet phone book with a few. The results will amaze you. In fact, that is why i went with the Glock 27 Mini, to upgrade my firepower from the snub (better 30 rounds available than 15, 5 in the gun & 2 speed loaders with 5 each [quote]
me being as large as i am and also being used to it I carry mine every day,all day.
I am well used to the pounds of weight on my hip it seems like.
I have used it many many times for coyotes and snakes living where I am. [/quote]Big dudes like yourself/Clint Eastwood, etc can get away with that stuff, even concealed most would not know you are packed if you do it right…[quote]
I have used it once in self defense and it has not let me down even with literally 100s of thousands of round trough it with only minor tightning and tuning and regular cleaning.
[/quote]…I’m just glad you are alive and not the bad guy…[quote]
I’ll repeat some of the replies here, so bear with me. The jamming issues of Glocks, in my experience, is indeed because of limp wristing the weapon. I bought my first Glock (Model 19) from a guy who was having problems with the spent brass ‘stovepiping’ in the ejection port. After watching what he was doing, I suggested that he use a firmer grip. He then fired it without any problems. He was dead set on buying a Sig Sauer and sold it to me for $300.
That’s been about 15 years and a few thousand rounds ago and it’s never jammed once. I suggest a snub nose .38 or .357 revolver for someone who’s new to firearms. First of all, take a safety course and familiarize yourself with the weapon. Then take it out and practice, don’t just put it in the nightstand for whenever you might need it.
great posts guys, thanks!
As for the threats, it’s being investigated but it takes FOREVER to subpoena records of phone calls in MA.
Also, I asked about pepper spray, the officer told me I’d be better off just getting a gun, because of how liberal the MA gov’t is it takes just as long now.
I have shot before, but that was at ranges, and more for ‘recreation’.
oh and I’ll detail the story after. I’m going to go drink for a while. I’ll probably post once I’m good and buzzed.
You’ll put your eye out.
quote from Generation Kill, Cpl. Josh Ray person.
“once you fire a bullet you cant take it back”
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
yorik wrote:
GunnyBear wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
Americans scare the shit out of me, not gonna lie.
Its how we keep people in line.
“Canada is just America Junior.”
Homer Simpson
I hate it when people say shit like this, because somebody might take them seriously.
Americans have guns because, if push comes to shove, that’s how we will keep the government in line.
The only trouble is the government has bigger guns!
Do you realy think that is what “to protect against a hostile government” means?
I always took it to mean an invading one, not that armed rebellion is out of the question though either.
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Since the government has to have a militia to protect the country against enemies, and since the first act of an out-of-control government is to turn its militia against it’s own citizens, the citizens must have guns to protect themselves from a government and militia gone wild.
For that matter, if the militia goes wild and decides it has the power to oust the government, then the citizens can step in themselves to protect the country from the militia. Nobody talks about that part. (But once again, the militia usually has the bigger guns,)
The self-protection is icing on the cake.
In general, armed rebellion is out of the question unless the government goes wild. You know, little things like rounding up specific ethnic groups for extermination. Little wild things like that.
I know I’m not the only one who keeps coming back to the thread for this guy’s drunken “why I need a gun” story.
Hurry up rummy!
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I know I’m not the only one who keeps coming back to the thread for this guy’s drunken “why I need a gun” story.
Hurry up rummy![/quote]
how’d you know itw as rum?
ok check it yo…
it’s tnot that cglamorous. Basically a couple months back I got this call from some dude trheatening me and shit. Talking about kicking my ass, whatever. From a blocked number. I had gotten several calls like this in like april. Filed a police report…the police didn’t do anything. I dunno why. Then there was a lull in like early july then this shit started up in late july again. Called the police and the detetctive that had my case. Left a message. He never called back.
I keep getting calls about once a week of someone from a blocked number calling me. I started ignoring the calls. But just in case it’s someone nearby I want a gun in case they decide to step shit up. I’d rather have a gun and not need it rather than need it and not have it. See, nothing glamorous.