[quote]vroom wrote:
I guess maybe the difference is that people should only stick to their guns if they have a viewpoint that you agree with.
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It has nothing to do with agreeing with you.
Kudos on thinking yourself so Bush-like.
But I think the point that you evidently miss is that no one knows what your viewpoints are - the jury is out on whether you even know what your viewpoints are.
Sounds more Kerry-like to me.
But I could be wrong.
Rainjack,
That is pure nonsense. Go read the separation of church and state thread. I’ve been expounding my viewpoint in there since day one… culminating in the (currently) final post.
The fact is that people don’t like what I’m saying… and it colors their perception to a very large degree. It’s the way of the world.
By the way, I’m not claiming pride in being like Bush, but showing yet another example of hypocracy. It is either good that people stick to their guns, or it is not. You don’t get to change the rules because someone else is playing the game.
Howabout some honesty for a change?
Your current wrong assumption is that people don’t like what you are sayin.
Personally, I think it has more to do with how you say it and the personal attacks that accompany it than anything you actually have to say.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Rainjack,
That is pure nonsense. Go read the separation of church and state thread. I’ve been expounding my viewpoint in there since day one… culminating in the (currently) final post.
The fact is that people don’t like what I’m saying… and it colors their perception to a very large degree. It’s the way of the world.
By the way, I’m not claiming pride in being like Bush, but showing yet another example of hypocracy. It is either good that people stick to their guns, or it is not. You don’t get to change the rules because someone else is playing the game.
Howabout some honesty for a change?[/quote]
The rules haven’t changed, vroom. I don’t know of anyone that is changing the rules. The only thing changing is your stance.
Just today, you tell me that you don’t argue to win. That you are different than I am in that respect. You said that you just want everyone to explore the possibilities. Now you want to be the one that sticks to his guns.
Do you not see a conflict in what you have said?
Be for something. Be against something. I don’t care. But when you are straddling both sides of the fence like you appear to do - you should be the last one crying hypocrite.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
WMD wrote:
Hey, I’m from Texas. Well, actually, I’m from Austin, which I’m beginning to think is not really part of Texas at all but a piece of the East coast caught in some sort of geopolitical-temporal warp.
WMD
If you are from Austin, please don’t defile the word Texan by calling yourself one. You are many things, but you are not a Texan.
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Sorry for you little man, but Austin is THE best place in Texas. And I proudly proclaim to the world that I am a native born Texan. Especially if it irritates you.
[quote]storey420 wrote:
WMD wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
But if everyone from all the other countries thinks Bush is wrong and we are wrong, doesn’t that say something? All you guys from Texas and the rest of the Bible Belt (I say Texas because you guys are most vocal) might not be right…and no amount of cheerleading will help that.
Hey, I’m from Texas. Well, actually, I’m from Austin, which I’m beginning to think is not really part of Texas at all but a piece of the East coast caught in some sort of geopolitical-temporal warp.
WMD
I’d have to agree with you WMD. Austin is very forward thinking and progressive unlike wherever in Texas Rainjack seems to come from, you know “real Texas” yee haw and such
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You saw where he told me I can’t call myself a Texan? Apparently if you can think for yourself and not be a redneck ass, you cain’t be a Texan.
I wish I had such a rich fantasy life as Rainjack…
[quote]ZEB wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Yeah - anything’s possible.
It’s possible that I might turn into a left-wing radical, move to Austin, and father a love child with WMD.
YUCK![/quote]
BLECCH!
Now you’re just being gross. I’ll keep my pistol loaded and close to hand.
[quote]WMD wrote:
Sorry for you little man, but Austin is THE best place in Texas. And I proudly proclaim to the world that I am a native born Texan. Especially if it irritates you.[/quote]
Native born? But you left and defiled yourself with the wines of foreign gods. You can’t come back to the promised land - you must stay in Austin and think it is really Texas.
I am not irritated. I am amused that you think Austin is such a grand place. I will agree that 6th Street is not bad - but you have to be drunk to enjoy it. Come to think of it - 6th Street is a symbol for the entire city.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
storey420 wrote:
I’d have to agree with you WMD. Austin is very forward thinking and progressive unlike wherever in Texas Rainjack seems to come from, you know “real Texas” yee haw and such
Progressive = Liberal elitist pricks.
But, just in case you’ve been asleep for the last 20 years. Texas has become increasingly Republican. It seems to me that Austin is the conglomeration of losers that refuse to change. From Reconstruction through the 1970’s Texas was democrat. We haven’t had a left winger hold that office since Ann “Poor George” Richards took advantage of a Clayton Williams faux paux.
Your brand of ‘progressive’ seems to be to pine away for the good old days, where the dems ran Austin, and everyone believed Molly Ivans. You can keep your “progressive” bullshit. The rest of the state is republican, now.
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Yes RJ, everyone should think and act like you. That way all of Texas could be full of whiny, hostile penis-heads like yourself. We certainly don’t want any dissent or opposition cuz that would just be too American or something. You really need alot of validation. Poor little fella.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
WMD wrote:
Sorry for you little man, but Austin is THE best place in Texas. And I proudly proclaim to the world that I am a native born Texan. Especially if it irritates you.
Native born? But you left and defiled yourself with the wines of foreign gods. You can’t come back to the promised land - you must stay in Austin and think it is really Texas.
I am not irritated. I am amused that you think Austin is such a grand place. I will agree that 6th Street is not bad - but you have to be drunk to enjoy it. Come to think of it - 6th Street is a symbol for the entire city.
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No you’re not irritated at all. It’s just that you are a bubbling font of xenophobic hostility.
I am amused that the only place you can think of when it comes to Austin is 6th Street. I think that defines you, more than it does the city.
Amarillo means “yellow” in Spanish. I can’t decide if that refers to the color of the dirt or the character of its residents.
[quote]WMD wrote:
You saw where he told me I can’t call myself a Texan? Apparently if you can think for yourself and not be a redneck ass, you cain’t be a Texan.
I wish I had such a rich fantasy life as Rainjack…[/quote]
Your doing a bang up job of being an ass without being a redneck. But you didn’t need me to tell you that, didja?
It looks like my definition of progressive is pretty much on the mark.
[quote]WMD wrote:
Yes RJ, everyone should think and act like you. That way all of Texas could be full of whiny, hostile penis-heads like yourself. We certainly don’t want any dissent or opposition cuz that would just be too American or something. You really need alot of validation. Poor little fella.[/quote]
Show me anywhere I have posted on T-Nation that I don’t want dissent.
Is that all you have in your purse o’ tricks? more inane name calling, and poor attempts at demasculation? Holy hell - I figured the NOW gang handbook had more shit in it than that. Guess I was wrong.
Why is it that the libs like you think everyone is searching for validation? Why is it that anyone that thinks you are a shit filled windbag is trying to silence you, or is against dissent?
I guess it’s called being progressive, huh?
[quote]WMD wrote:
No you’re not irritated at all. It’s just that you are a bubbling font of xenophobic hostility.[/quote]
FOr me to be xenophobic, you would have to be a non-Texan. So which is it? Are you not a Texan, or am I not xenophobic?
It can’t be both - so make up your mind already.
I didn’t say 6th Street was the only thing I knew about Austin. I said it was the only thing I liked about Austin - there’s a difference, but you’d have to be sober to understand it, it’s kinda subtle.
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Amarillo means “yellow” in Spanish. I can’t decide if that refers to the color of the dirt or the character of its residents. [/quote]
I don’t think you know what you are talking about. I know many folks from the Golden Spread, and none of them ever struck me as yellow. But being as I am a good 100 miles from Amarillo, I’m sure there are some yellow folks there. They probably prefer to be called yellow-dog democrats though. Or is it progressive? I keep forgetting.
[quote]Just today, you tell me that you don’t argue to win. That you are different than I am in that respect. You said that you just want everyone to explore the possibilities. Now you want to be the one that sticks to his guns.
Do you not see a conflict in what you have said? [/quote]
Rainjack,
Not at all.
I can stick to my guns without being in this to “win” as you are. I have a viewpoint and I express it. I don’t change my viewpoint or posting style because of public opinion.
I’m sticking to my guns.
You problem is that on THIS THREAD I haven’t stated an opinion? On this thread I clearly have been advancing the opinion that it IS reasonably possible for Bush to be a moron, or perhaps idiot is a better word. I’m not saying he can’t tie his shoes, perhaps you are thinking I’m saying more than I am?
Anyway, what else should I state my opinion on in this thread? Was there another issue proposed by the initial post that I should address? My opinion on the initial post is that it was stretching. So what! Have I been arguing that John was right about anything?
Also, if there is something I am doing in this thread that John does not like, he is free to tell me about it, either in this thread or in PM. Until then, I don’t give a flying fuck about what you right wingnuts think I am or am not doing in this thread. It’s John’s thread and I’ll respect any of his requests pertaining to topic if they are at all reasonable.
I added the reasonable concept because I’d respect your wishes in your own threads too… as long as they were reasonable.
For example, in the Reagan commemorative thread or other threads of that ilk, I don’t get into political discussion, as the thread has a different purpose and the person creating the thread has asked that such not occur.
Is there something else I owe you? Perhaps a level of respect that I myself an not shown by you or others on the right side of the political spectrum?
Move on, nothing to see here except some right wingnuts that get their panties in a bunch because they don’t like what I have to say…
You are a lost cause, vroom.
You go ahead and slay all the windmills you think you need to in order to save the world from people like me. If you think you are accomplishing something, I won’t tell you any different.
But just so you know - confusion over what the hell you are saying, or what position you are taking is frustrating to say the least. It is different than wadded panties, as I’m sure you can attest to.
Are you allowed to have bullets in those guns that you are so proudly sticking to?
Funny how that works.
Bush is admirable for sticking to his guns… while it makes me a “lost cause”. If that isn’t a shining example of how judgment is altered by agreement with viewpoint, I don’t know what is.
It’s also strange that I’m slaying windmills. You’d think I wouldn’t get such vehement opposition for doing something so inconsequential.
If you can’t figure out my opinion, or what I am generally commenting on, it is only because you aren’t even able to see what I am discussing. Why might that be?
I certainly know and understand your viewpoint on most issues… are you sure you aren’t simply feigning ingnorance so often because it allows you to not have to counter some difficult to refute statements from time to time?
What the fuck was the topic of this thread?
I believe it was: “Republican, right wing, neo-cons v. Democrat, progressive, liberals; Who hates who more? Who can express sheer contempt in as many derrogative words as possible? Who can implement the use of the most generalizations, hyperboles, and hyporcritical double standards of all!? Sunday, SUNDAY, SUNDAY!!!”
-Sep
[quote]rainjack wrote:
It’s not a ‘little hunk’, just so you know. And yes, a quintessential part of being a REAL TEXAN is what you call being a ‘blowhard’. I call it swagger, other’s call it pride. And you have none of the above - which just goes to show thatone is not a Texan simply because one has a Texas ZIP.
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So I took this to heart and since I am not from Texas originally I decide to ask 10 “Born and raised in Texas” Texans( of which only 3 were from Austin) about Rainjack’s claim that part of being a REAL TEXAN is having that swagger/pride. The unanimous answer was " we all have pride but someone like that with the swagger who nitpicks what is Texas and what is not, is better called an asshole".
Even though I have an accent( to a degree), ride horses, float the rivers, BBQ, spent time in Big Bend, and have seen every corner of Texas and have lived here for four years, unfortunately according to the master of the universe, I am not a Texan. I assume it must be my lack of swagger since I have pride in this great state and its people.
Oh and for the record I have a hunk of land here. So thats two out of the three that I’ve got. Thanks for playing.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
What I love about Austin is the LACK of people like you who are really just judgemental turds that think that their myopic view of the land is what’s best.
You have passed far more judgement on me than I have on you. I simply stated my opinion on what I thought about progressives. I also stated fact about the political climate in Texas. What is so offensive to you? My opinion? Or the truth?
Either way you have proven yourself to be a hate filled elitist prick. Or was that hate filled progressive?
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My offense was you tying that definition odf progressive to me. Which you did clearly. Nothing more nothing less.
I am neither hate filled, nor elitist, and am not a prick(at least that’s what my mommy tells me:]) but your keen ability to prove that from my last post was amazing.