[quote]vroom wrote:
You believe it is so, but that’s not what you are arguing. You are simply arguing that it COULD be so, because the reasoning for saying it couldn’t be so is faulty. WOW
The subtle difference in arguing against anothers viewpoint because it differs from yours–yet you are not arguing your viewpoint is just a ridiculous position. For once vroom, admit a stance and argue on its merits. Not some one shot sniper bullshit that you believe yourself to be so great at.
So you do believe the guy’s a moron, but you’re not manning up for that type of discussion. You’re just shooting down those that think the guy has any intellect at all.
CLASSIC!!
That’s pretty sad Sasquatch.
You don’t get it do you? Here we are arguing with people that have rabid cheerleading viewpoints and you expect both sides to simply state their viewpoint and move on?
No, we talk about what is wrong with the others viewpoint… why they are incorrect.
However, if you are too stupid to notice the difference between arguing against an issue and arguing for the opposite issue, I guess that is your problem. It’s a common though, I have to say.
If you want to have any chance at getting someone to think about what you are saying, you have to pry your way into their mindset. Getting them to see a logical fallacy in their thinking is great way to do this.
I guess since you are the master and commander of the known universe you don’t actually ever have to “convince” anyone of anything, they just acquiese to your will…
And yes, I’m happy to state I think he’s a moron, and why, and I have before.
These things are my judgements and I cannot prove them all, but I think he is just a fun guy who’s never had to learn to be responsible for anything. He jokes and used to party all the time, can’t speak worth a shit, and has very limited vision with respect to the outcomes of his actions. This helped him run all his business endeavors into the ground. He comes from a rich family with powerful connections and has been looked after his entire life. He has too much by way of religion, class and race distinctions as far as I’m concerned. He and his administration do not take appropriate responsibility for negative outcomes. He engages in rampant cronyism and searches for ways to justify his viewpoint instead of searching for reality and then forming a viewpoint.
However, that wasn’t the topic of discussion, was it? This wasn’t about me trying to prove he was an ignoramus, and because it isn’t provable I wouldn’t waste my time trying to do so. For those that think he is great and are cheerleaders, I would instead try to point out that that it is entirely possible that he is a moron even though he has achieved X and Y.
That’s about all I’d realistically hope to achieve – to get people to think on the possibility, and perhaps even admit it might be possible, though it was not their own judgement.
If that was achieved, then it might be possible to have a reasoned discussion on why each party had decided their position. Oh no, that would be horrible.
Anyway, for the master and commander of the known universe, your vision is awfully limited.[/quote]
How about I just say–
this is as sad as your original post and allow you to get the last word which is your signature move.
Do you really think that you get anybody to think about something? Like they haven’t thopught of it before? Like you are some shining ray of information and intellect piercing your way through the muck and muddle of us commoners?
How many mindsets do you suppose you’ve altered with your sophmoric diatribes?
How many fallicies exposed?
Get over yourself and your self promotion. Pick a position and argue it–simple. You are only kidding yourself if you think you’re high-browwing anybody here.
