I’ve read that it can take a very long time for my hormones to return to a normal level after starting some medication. Do you think that injecting test for the meanwhile would be a bad idea?
Short term T, with E2 controlled, would help with some body/mind changes, but transitioning off could create problems. Wait and see how things are going to play out with the doctors.
You probably just have hormone imbalance issues that no one will ever be able to explain why. If you get the prolactin under control the test and it’s positive effects will probably fall in line. Your estrogen is probably high also and addressing that along with the prl would probably have a very positive synergistic effect. I am puzzled why your fasted glucose is so high.
I want to sincerely thank all of you for your help and input. I just had my blood taken again this morning - I will post the results as soon as they arrive.
A final word… (i am not great with blood panel result tables and recommended values, but i do understand the hormones involved a little so…)
To ease your mind…
Without looking at your results - Say you have high estrogen, high prolactin, low test… then simply using an AI would decrease the estrogen, increase the test and decrease the prolactin. That is to say, they are all related and balanced naturally… so while it looks like you have a cluster fuck of a result (and you do!) you should realise that the issue is likely caused by just 1-2 different issues and correcting them will correct the other hormone levels along with it.
Looking at your panel - the fact that IGF is high could be reason for the lower GH level… I believe Insulin raises IGF levels, and this may account for your issue there. You may have metabolic syndrome, where you have become desensitised to insulins effects, and as such your body is producing much more of it to compensate… this is having the knock on effect (theoretical of course!). Metformin would be useful but speak to your doc first - i am just making suggestions, thats all ![]()
Then with what KSman said about lowerinf prolactin with Caber having beneficail effects on the other hormones - between the two (Insulin and Prolactin) you may just have the main culprits for the whole range being off.
JMO ![]()
Just an update. The MRI of my petuitary showed no abnormalities. I guess that’s a relief but to me it makes the situation a little more confusing. I thought that the petuitary was the cause of my increase prolactin which in turn screwed up everything else. Still waiting on the blood results.
Well that is good news I think. Jon you are an interesting case. It just goes to show that guys can have issues with prolactin/libido before ever even touching any of these hormonal substances.
I can’t believe I forgot to add this - Ive had gyno for the last 4-5 years.
My fucking god. It is moments like this i ask myself why i even bother!
“…Oh BTW i forgot to mention i am also a diabetic female and using progestin birth control…”
In light of the added info of having developed gyno in the last 4-5 years, what is your age? It would be good to know if the gyno started in adolescence or at another time. Can you think of anything that might have brought it on other than adolescence? Were you overweight before? What is you body comp like now?
There were no estrogen levels checked on the last blood test, hopefully this one will include it. I’m 20 years old and remember the gyno started to be problematic around my 17th birthday. I was overweight throughout most of my childhood and I started to trim down by the time i was 16. However, I was never obese, I was just a chunky kid and stored a lot of my fat on my lower belly and hips.
Hips? How many men do you know of that store fat around their hips?
Every man that stores fat around their hips has high estrogen. Standard.
So this is pubescent gyno. The added info helps a lot. Let’s see those new results when you get them.
IMO the advice given doesn’t change one bit - other than it being easier to potentially advise you on possible options (to be discussed with a doc without telling him it is steroid users giving the advice, they don’t like that…).
Beside the gyno, poor libido, and not ideal body comp, how do you feel in general? How is your energy level, morale, progress training? Are there any other factors that you think need improvement?
What BBB says is true. You really aren’t going to get anywhere without the proper assays.
UPDATE:
My endo could no longer help me, so she referred me to another one. I really like this guy a lot. We repeated the bloods, and they were very similar to the previous one. He said that the elevated IGF-1 is most likely due to strenuous workouts and that the increased prolactin and slight gyno are due to the very high protein content of my diet.
My testosterone was still low, so he prescribed me Clomid 50mg 2x/day for two weeks. I didn’t want to give me test because it would inhibit my natural production for about one year. He said I would feel the clomid working, im just waiting for it to kick in.
KSman says WTF