[quote]ZEB wrote:
I’m not quite buying this “sexual orientation” phrase you like to throw around.[/quote]
What is there to “not quite buy”? Either you like chicks, you like dudes, you like other stuff, or some combination thereof. It’s really not that complicated.
[quote]There are plenty of people making really bad choices everyday in America.
You happen to be one of them. :)[/quote]
And THAT would be why you were called a judgemental asshole. I think we need to hear from harris again.
-Glee
[quote]ZEB wrote:
If you want to call it “Passing judgement” I have no problem with that, as long as it is stated clearly. I am passing judgement on an action taken, not the person taking it.[/quote]
The good people of Salem weren’t passing judgement on the witch, only the demons that possessed her.
-Glee
[quote]terribleivan wrote:
ZEB wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Agreed. Let it be noted that anal sex is dangerous in homosexuals and heterosexual realationships. This appears to be the first thing we have seen eye to eye on 
That’s only partially true my friend.[/quote]
It seems pretty plain to me. Which is the inaccurate part?
Actually, the vast majority of new AIDS and HIV cases are heterosexuals.
Whoops, I guess we’re talking about different countries. I’m talking about Thailand, a nation that accepts homosexuals and bisexuals… and occasionally reveres them as reincarnates. What open-minded and accepting country are you talking about?
You don’t have much of an imagination, do you?
-Glee
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Matters not if you are Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist or whatever, the homosexual act is dangerous and the lifestyle that many partake simply adds to that danger.[/quote]
What ‘homosexual act’? Wearing tight vinyl pants?
-Glee
[quote]forlife wrote:
Please explain to me how Ian and Ambrose are living a “more dangerous” life than the typical straight couple.
ZEB wrote:
LOL…and my uncle Harry drank two six packs per day of Beer until the day he died at the age of 97.
So according to your logic 12 cans of beer per day is a good thing to do![/quote]
Actually, it’s your own logic. Keep laughing though – it is pretty funny.
-Glee
[quote]ZEB wrote:
It has become a very sad day in our society that we now have to justify to our partner that we are disease free. Thank goodness for condoms, eh forlife?
Refer to my previous post on anal sex. Condoms DO NOT assure safe anal sex.
NOTHING ASSURES SAFE ANAL SEX[/quote]
NOTHING ASSURES SAFE SEX AT ALL. I fail to see how this comes to bear on gay marriage in particular – unless you’re trying to promote it.
-Glee
[quote]forlife wrote:
Safe anal sex involves more than just using a condom. It includes providing sufficient lubrication, going gently, and not surrendering your judgment to drugs or alcohol.
terribleivan wrote:[/i]
Wow, I think I may have just heard more than I need to know.
I can not believe you are trying to demonstrate that anal sex is safe and normal by giving us a laundry list of precautions.[/quote]
A condom, lubrication, gentle action and lucidity are “a laundry list of precautions”? Come back to the discussion when you’ve actually had sex. Watching porn doesn’t count.
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Alright, your views on this entire discussion just became null and void. Thanks for coming out. Don’t let the door hit your piety on the way out.
-Glee
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I know this’ll sound old-fashioned but God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.[/quote]
God also created homosexuals, and God loves all his creations.
-Glee
[quote]ZEB wrote:
We are on a discussion about homosexuality. However, I have mentioned that anal sex is dangerous PERIOD. I did not specify male to male or male to female in many of my posts.[/quote]
Not really – you reluctantly admitted that anal sex in general is dangerous period, when you tried to use anal sex as an argument against gay marriage, or Brokeback Mountain, or gay sex, or just homosexuality (I’m not sure which anymore) and forlife caught you in your fallacy.
In fact, it’s a bit of a pattern. Putting aside for a moment all the goofy biblical boogeyman stories, every single bit of scientific data you’ve brought to bear on the topic of homosexuality either a) is overly broad, b) based on false premises, or c) points out the dangers of promiscuous homosexuality – which, according to your own supposed philanthropy, makes you pro-gay marriage.
-Glee
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Most “religious beliefs” would preclude forlife partaking in homosexual acts. Therefore, he turned his back on God…The flesh is powerful indeed![/quote]
If the flesh is so powerful, why am I a Godless hedonist but also a heterosexual?
-Glee
[quote]terribleivan wrote:
And, if the homosexual community is as monogomous as you suggest (FYI - statistics disagree with you), you wouldn’t find gay men cheating on their husbands with women.[/quote]
Gay men aren’t allowed to have husbands in the U.S.A. So, gay men obviously don’t cheat on these notional ‘husbands’ with women.
Homosexual promiscuity is a terrible problem. We should try to correct it by enabling them to engage in formal monogamous unions or something.
-Glee
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Hmm… if gays are “born that way” how can they physically be able to have sex with someone of the opposite sex?[/quote]
The same reason men have nipples – the body is a strange and confusing wonderland, and anyone who pretends to fully understand it is a fool.
-Glee
[quote]terribleivan wrote:
It is very interesting that you try to defend homosexuality as normal because it has been practiced for a long time. Have you noticed that the civilizations in history that have been the strongest have fallen when homosexuality was at its peak? Greece? Rome? Sodom & Gommorah? It is not a healthy sexual activity, and it leads to worth things.[/quote]
You’re going to have to back that up with proof. Until then, I call bullshit.
-Glee
[quote]ZEB wrote:
STOP THE PRESS EVERYONE! I THINK WE HAVE A VICTORY ON THE HOME FRONT
(blah blah blah TLDR -ed)[/quote]
Basically, it looks like you’re claiming victory because forlife somehow said that some men might be bisexual. Strange, he’s the one who was trying to convince you that sexual orientation is a spectrum, not an absolute. Yawn.
-Glee
[quote]forlife wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Perhaps the most profound scientific data would be that procreation exists when a mans sperm reaches a woman’s egg.
Are you actually claiming that any sex act which doesn’t result in insemination is “unnatural”? Lol…I hope you never have sex unless you plan to impregnate your woman in the process.
You do know that homosexuality is prevalent in the animal world as well, right? It doesn’t get more “natural” than that.
[/quote]
Great comparision between homosexuality and the animal world. Animals also lick each other’s butts and eat each others fecal matter. Do you practice these “natural” behaviours as well?
[quote]terribleivan wrote:
Great comparision between homosexuality and the animal world. Animals also lick each other’s butts and eat each others fecal matter. Do you practice these “natural” behaviours as well?[/quote]
Fallacious. I said that homosexuality (like heterosexuality) occurs naturally in the animal world, not that all animal behaviors occur naturally in humans. When was the last time you coughed up a fur ball?
Glad to see that you at least agree homosexuality is a natural phenonomeon.
[quote]forlife wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Great comparision between homosexuality and the animal world. Animals also lick each other’s butts and eat each others fecal matter. Do you practice these “natural” behaviours as well?
Fallacious. I said that homosexuality (like heterosexuality) occurs naturally in the animal world, not that all animal behaviors occur naturally in humans. When was the last time you coughed up a fur ball?
Glad to see that you at least agree homosexuality is a natural phenonomeon.[/quote]
I can’t believe this thread is still going! Die, evil thread, die!!
Look, a men and women were designed for EACH OTHER. The purpose of sex is procreation. The purpose is not lurid perverted pleasure. Any scientist would say what I just said, except that their funding would be cut by libs.
Hell, AIDS may not even exist! Its just a re-classification of a bunch of other diseases, which gays get from their barbarous practices. But, Americans would not fund research into this stuff, unless it got packaged under this AIDS story. (See the work of James Hogan and some of the scientistd who went against the tide and denounced the AIDS fraud).
See the work of Dr. Peter Duesberg. AIDs simply does not exist.
I’m sure the flames will come out. Read the material first, gents!
[quote]Gleemonex wrote:
Homosexual promiscuity is a terrible problem. We should try to correct it by enabling them to engage in formal monogamous unions or something.
-Glee[/quote]
Hey, I have an idea!
Let’s launch a nationwide campaign which informs everyone about the dangers of AIDS, STD’s and all of the other related sexual disease’s.
Oh wait…we did that and homosexuals still don’t seem to care. They are dying horrible deaths at a very rapid rate because they just can’t (as a group) seem to stick to one (or two or even three) partners.
That just might be symtomatic of what the real problem is.
Think about it.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Look, a men and women were designed for EACH OTHER. The purpose of sex is procreation. The purpose is not lurid perverted pleasure.[/quote]
Are you honestly claiming that you have never had sex, and that you will never have sex in the future, except for the purpose of procreation? Because that is the way you were “designed”?
Tell that to the droves of heterosexuals getting the HIV virus. You do realize that outside of the U.S., the large majority of new HIV cases are HETEROSEXUALS, right?