Honestly, I would rather see a small guy who can act (Brody) than a small guy who can’t act (Jake Whatever in Prince of Persia). Lesser of two evils. Besides, The Expendables will make up for everything anyway, pretty much all the other action movies this year are filler.
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
No human could ever beat an Alien or a Predator in hand to hand combat. The only way a human could win is through intelligence.
That’s the point of this movie. A bunch of fiendishly intelligent people stand a chance
against predators.
Fyi, in the first Predator, Arnold won by outsmarting the Predator, not by out muscling him.[/quote]
Bingo. If you’re going to talk realism, there isn’t a person on the planet that wouldn’t be ripped to pieces in seconds by the Predator (or an Alien for that matter)…
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
For guys like that, it is more about intelligence, wits, being 5 steps ahead of your opponent and keeping calm in a stressful situation. The vast majority of the guys who do stuff like that are the most unassuming looking guys you could ever meet. [/quote]
Good points. And for guys like that, their physicality isn’t about being huge, it’s about thier endurance, ability to withstand pain and discomfort, and basically deal with shit that would have the average guy on his knees…plus pure fighting skills (with ranged weapons and hand-to-hand)…
[quote]mcstoots082 wrote:
I am surprised you are all focused on Brody because I believe Topher Grace is in this bitch as well. Last I heard he was supposed to be a Serial killer or some such.[/quote]
Yeah thats exactly what i am thinking. i can kind of understand the brody angle , but the Topher grace is a complete bitch, he was a bona fide nerd in thats 70s show, fucked up Eddie Brock in spiderman. Eddie Brock/ venom is one of the most bad ass characters in the marvel universe.
They might as well have got Micheal Cera, at least hes a nerd that acts like one.
If grace trys to act tough in this film and aint killed off in the first minute I lose all respect for Robert rod.
[quote]mcstoots082 wrote:
Hey guys isn’t Fishbourne a long time survivor on the planet. When I read it a while back I am almost positive he is the only guy that lives in the hunting zone, and the others find him and he gives them advice. [/quote]
I was going to point this out as well. His character is supposed to have been surviving for years under those conditions. If anyone in this movie is a bad ass, he is.
And as far as everyone saying this guy doesn’t look like he could take on a Predator, if this guy is special forces, 99% of the time this would be exactly what he would look like. My best friend is an ex-Ranger, and even though he does love bodybuilding and being as huge as possible, this is exactly what he looked like when he was in and he was a Ranger for 6 years.
My dad’s best friend was one of the few black SEALs that ever made it through training and he looked pretty much the same way and was a certifiable bad ass in every sense of the word.
Another friend of my dad’s was a sniper, same deal.
For guys like that, it is more about intelligence, wits, being 5 steps ahead of your opponent and keeping calm in a stressful situation. The vast majority of the guys who do stuff like that are the most unassuming looking guys you could ever meet. [/quote]
THANK YOU. Arnold did play a great role in the first Predator and was a “real man”. But I think it’s good that they didn’t pick a huge juiced up BBer who has shitty acting. That would actually be LESS real to me, than having a moderate sized chiseled Brody. Because as the above poster said most of the guys look like Brody body wise. I dunno to me it just seems a lot more realistic than having a ridiciously large muscular man there…because you know him living there he has time to spread his 6 meals a day, cook his chickens, steaks, etc etc. it just seems a lot more realistic with someone who looks to be in shape and that’s about it.
Oh wait Predator let me just finish taking my pre-workout shake before we fight haha
“I give my word that I know what I need to do to deliver a level of truth and authenticity with a role like this. I put on 25 pounds for this role, but that wasn’t the point - they didn’t hire me to be a body-builder. But in order to playful with it as well I should be strapped, but it’s not the physical strength that outsmarts an alien with energy-based weapons and higher tracking skills, and a culture of hunting and trophy-hunting, you have to outsmart them.”
“I didn’t stay in a hotel… [Instead,] I isolated myself… My nightly ritual was poring over survival manuals and military and paramilitary training books. I was reading Sun Tzu. I was studying meditation. I was on a very strict diet. I wasn’t drinking. I wasn’t eating sugar. I wasn’t having sex. I had to kind of go there, for me, because this was a tremendous opportunity.”
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This is why I respect the hell out of actors like him and will go pay to see this movie.
LOL Rasturai you’re right, having Brody is 1mill times better than having someone like John Cena or Batista (although the latter is actually a decent actor). That Predator wouldnt stand a chance against a 5 knuckle shuffle, spear, and attitude adjustment combo. And don’t get me started in the scenario of a “No rules jungle ladder match”…
No human could ever beat an Alien or a Predator in hand to hand combat. The only way a human could win is through intelligence.
That’s the point of this movie. A bunch of fiendishly intelligent people stand a chance against predators.
Fyi, in the first Predator, Arnold won by outsmarting the Predator, not by out muscling him.[/quote]
Arnie didn’t as much outsmart the Predator as he got lucky. (The Predator’s aren’t stupid, fuck they interstellar space travel.) The Predator saw through Arnie’s trap and went around it. Arnie got lucky that his trap could work outside his original plan.
R.I.P. Apollo Creed and Bill Duke. Darkest brothers to grace the silver screen who weren’t Wesley Snipes.
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Danny Glover killed a predator in 2. Props to him.[/quote]
I got 2 theories:
1.
Getting beat by Danny Glover was the beginning of the end. After hearing the bad news the entire Predator civilization went home, got drunk, and have yet to sober up. Thus a bunch of Predators got rolled by the Aliens like drunken frat boys at biker bar. Then the whole drunken crew of a spaceship got gutted by a half-breed. We are watching the sad decline of a once proud civilization.
After getting beat for a second time the Predators realized it was time to clean the “stoopid” from the gene pool. Thus they begin dumping all the rejects who fail Proper Predatoring 101 on Earth while taking bets on which gets gutted or acidfried first.
R.I.P. Apollo Creed and Bill Duke. Darkest brothers to grace the silver screen who weren’t Wesley Snipes.
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Danny Glover killed a predator in 2. Props to him.[/quote]
I got 2 theories:
1.
Getting beat by Danny Glover was the beginning of the end. After hearing the bad news the entire Predator civilization went home, got drunk, and have yet to sober up. Thus a bunch of Predators got rolled by the Aliens like drunken frat boys at biker bar. Then the whole drunken crew of a spaceship got gutted by a half-breed. We are watching the sad decline of a once proud civilization.
After getting beat for a second time the Predators realized it was time to clean the “stoopid” from the gene pool. Thus they begin dumping all the rejects who fail Proper Predatoring 101 on Earth while taking bets on which gets gutted or acidfried first.[/quote]
Well, look how Danny Glover won:
He had a team of scientists who could track the Predator and had weapons that are effective against him
Danny Glover didn’t fight the Predator one on one until the very end of the movie. And I’m talking about when they’re on the space ship and Predator already lost his hand. By that time, they were both fucked.
Danny Glover’s character was a bad ass. He took on crazy drug dealers for years and had been in plenty of fights.
Predator relied more on Alien Weaponry than personal skill. People I’ve talked with agree that this Predator was probably less experienced.