Methinks its bro-science, had a friend mention this to me. Anyone care to weigh in?
You need a somewhat elevated Estrogen level to get the most out of your cycle but, not so high your body is going crazy and having a lot negative sides because of it.
Estrogen has a powerful anabolic effect, and is proven to increase mass, but not necessarily lean mass. As far as bro-science, this used to be considered a fact, and bodybuilders would take DBol for the sole purpose of Estrogen for ‘joint protection and mass gaining’ before Aromatase Inhibitors existed (Adex, Aromasin etc…) and DHTs were the only source of E2 control.
There are studies indicating greater bovine muscle mass in the presence of elevated estrogen, as well as greater HGH and IGF-1 levels that are mostly linearly related to estrogen levels.
So that might seem contradictory, most bodybuilders now cycle at almost zero E2, and blast tons of Deca, HGH and IGF-1. That’s optimal, IF you can afford it.
For joe-gymrat who could barely afford a 6 vial cycle, and probably couldn’t even get ahold of real HGH, it could be argued that elevated E2 could contribute to gains in a bulking cycle. The problem is that you would want to end your cycle at LOW E2, to smooth the transition to PCT. IME, most casual cyclers need linear cycle plans (like 1200mg Test E for 10 weeks) or they fuck it up somehow.
One more thing to consider is body type, I think an Ecto or Ecto-Meso would do well with the extra estrogen, where a meso-endo or endo would just pack on the jiggly stuff with high E2.
My rambling thoughts on the subject.
-PTD
Not that men are cattle, but…
Component EH and Synovex (Cow roids), which can be home brewed to extract Prop.
Each dose contains 200mg test prop and 20mg Estrodiol Benzoate.
From the mfg notes:
INCREASED RATE OF WEIGHT GAIN AND IMPROVED FEED EFFICIENCY.
The Estro is in there for a reason.
nice…you guys sound like scientist
Fairly sure my e2 is fairly low during this my first blast, I’m insufferable when e2 is high so I beat it down. Unfortunately this makes my cycle more like a cut than a bulk which is the opposite of what I want.
why anyone would want elevated estrogen is beyond me…
For everything to be working the way you want it to be working your E2 should be in the low to mid twenties. Otherwise the man oil you’re injecting won’t do all it can do.
You don’t want high estrogen levels unless you want to be picking out a bra at victoria secrets.
on a side note…
If I was in prison and being executed by injection, I’d clean up my cell real neat. Then, when they came to get me, I’d say, “Injection? What the hell I thought you said ‘inspection’.” They’d probably feel real bad, and maybe I could get out of it.
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
on a side note…
If I was in prison and being executed by injection, I’d clean up my cell real neat. Then, when they came to get me, I’d say, “Injection? What the hell I thought you said ‘inspection’.” They’d probably feel real bad, and maybe I could get out of it. [/quote]
Lmaooooo! That’s a good one 
You can allow elevated estrogen during times when joint health is concentrated on and fluid retention is beneficial. Rehab, heavy press specific workouts, etc.
Elevated means twice to three times normal, not 70 times.