[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
There have been articles about it in the news. But just use some common sense. Where do you think the bargain rate medical staff are coming from? America? Canada? Germany? I don’t think so. They are coming from places like India, Pakistan Egypt, etc…
The only beneficiary of this scheme are the socialists, who want to make as many of the British dependants of the state as they possibly can. By keeping people uneducated, lacking in job skills and economically inactive they make a person their bitch who cannot escape their grip. Because they have no ability to get out and go somewhere else.
No. They are talking about saving a maximum of 350 million pounds by cutting back on managers when the total deficit is over 610 million pounds. After Thursdays elections there are going to have to be massive cuts in the NHS in order to cover the massive increase in the foreign aid budget which the Tories are proposing.
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It’s a good job I’m not voting Conservative then. You think these immigrants are actually medically trained in their country of origin?! They are trained over here, I thought that was the point of our discussion? I’m in university with a great deal of immigrants. They are there because they are arguably brighter than our own kids, and for no other reason. You want more British doctors, British kids need to shape up! [/quote]
If people are not coming in trained then it is costing the taxpayer money to train them. You are in a uniersity with a great deal of immigrants because the government is deliberately dumbing down the ethnic British. They do this by making it harder for them to get higher education and bringing in college educated immigrants to undermine wages in the labor market so the ones with education and job skills are forced to emigrate.
This is social engineering that is intended to achieve what the military call a decapitation strike. They are dumbing the British down into a nation of Vicky Pollard’s. With an educated immigrant upper class that will see the indiginous Brits as nothing but white trash who are to be avoided.
The reason why the immmigrant kids are there is because educated people who have job skills have independence and therefore greater autonomy from government control. While the uneducated who don’t have tranportable job skills are stuck in Britain at the mercy of the government.
It’s all about social engineering to achieve power and control and has nothing to do with your percieved racial inferiority if the indiginous British.
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I partly agree with you here in your middle paragraph; the people who do come in to exploit the system do not serve socialism, they exploit it. Socialist policies work on the assumption that everyone is working, which at the moment is a difficult prospect. [/quote]
I have to disagree with you here. I don’t blame the people who come in to exploit the system. You are missing something very important. The biggest abusers of the socialist system are the socialist politicians. They have created a system that is open to abuse and allow it to continue because they use it to hold on to power. Socialist policies work by making people weak and depedant upon the government.
That is why immigrants with no job skills who come in and go straight on the dole are just as useful and welcome as those who have job skills and will be economically active.
Cutting the beauracracy is not enough. Instead of cutting services they need to put an end to all the give aways. ie The foreign aid buget is 9 billion pounds of borrowed money and the Tories are promising to raise it to 16 billion pounds. [/quote]
Wait, you think the government is paying for university educations? It gives people loans that they have to pay back at a rate just above inflation. If our kids don’t want them or aren’t bright enough to qualify then that’s their problem.
I mostly agree with you about the socialist politicians and about people exploiting socialism. What I was getting at is that true socialist policies assume that everyone is working in order to account for the people that cannot. Obviously this doesn’t particularly apply if the system is being roundly abused from top to bottom.
I’m fairly in agreement with yourself and with HH about at least Labour and the Conservatives, I won’t be voting for either tomorrow.I disagree on the stance about immigrants and about turning to the BNP as “the only option for Britain’s survival”…I think its an easy option to be blaming the immigrant population. I’m all for tighter immigration laws, especially when there are few jobs to go around, btu the BNP isn’t the answer.
I’m the only one of the three of us who actually lives in the UK, which means that
A) I have to put up with the BNP’s woefully produced leaflets and gormless local reps.
B) I’ve seen the sort of damage the BNP and their kin can do to a community. Take a look at the Welsh Defence League for instance. Bunch of tossers.
