[quote]Sloth wrote:
American young men have been emasculated. [/quote]
A statement of FACT.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
orion wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
johnconkle wrote:
Isn’t Cornell still a relatively conservative campus?
You don’t know ignorant, left wing, knee-jerk idiocy until you’ve gone to a UC.
Haha. Not even close. Their are a few closetn conservatives but the campus is still 90% left wing. We have around 4 left-wing to socialist papers, multiple socialist clubs, and the few “unbiased” news sources are left wing as hell.
The Conservative paper is almost never read, people often protest the most random and retarded shit I can think of (People think being Gay is abnormal, therefore we will do a bunch of gay PDA in the middle of the Quad… lolwat?).
But yeah, I’m sure UC’s would be worse. At least there’s a small libertarian club here.
Did you just write that they publicly make out with dudes because someone somewhere thinks being gay is unnatural?
Yes. Yes I did. They called it a “fight against heteronormalism.”
I’m not fucking with you.
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Um, I am probably going to regret this…
Pics or it didn´t happen!
lol.
Get neo-liberals out of the GOP.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Otep wrote:
IIRC Beowulf, when you arrived you were staunchly against the GOP. You mentioned frequently the inadequacy of GWB, and while I might have you mixed up for someone else, I think you were really into the 9/11 conspiracy theories too.
What happened to you to cause your opinion to change?
I realized, slowly, that everything I was “for” was not what Democrats believed. I still think Bush was a horrible President, but I found my liberalism was nothing more than hating Bush.
What I hated about Bush other than Iraq, namely: wiretapping, over spending, expanding the power of government,was primarily where he fell AWAY from Conservativism. Until I actually started looking at the parties foundations I thought they were reversed!
…Er… I was never into 9/11 conspiracies. EVER. So you’re confusing me with someone else there.
I still dislike the current Republican party as well. But they’re closes to what I want than the Democrats currently are.
You and I are almost alike; I hate all those things about George Bush, I still dislike the GOP, and I am not real happy with the Dems. Either. The only difference is now the GOP feels that to be a true conservative you must loath the poor. Cut off welfare; screw them with low unemployment or a shortened version of unemployment. That is just a short list of the GOP screwing the poor.
When if you really want to conserve you could stop all the wars that are not necessary. You could cut out all the contractors that can do the job and still make a profit. If you hire competent people the profit the Corps are making are over payment of our taxes.
Why is cutting off federal welfare “screwing the poor?”
If you want to help the poor, no one is stopping you. The best way to do that is to be successful, so you can give them all a job.
And as for you last sentence… could you restate that? I’m completely missing the meaning.
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Do you agree ,that not extending unemployment ins. is screwing the poor?
[quote]pat wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
How can it be done? My generation in enamored by the Democrats, mainly because they all hate Bush.
Seriously, no one will even pick up the conservative paper on my campus, even though it is HARDLY a radical Bush loving journal. In fact, I’d say the Progressive (the left wing paper) is FAR more divided and often, just plain retarded. They recently ran an article about how meat is killing America. In a political newspaper. I can’t make this shit up.
I’ve considered writing for the Review (right wing paper) but I feel that no one will bother reading it. Hell, the Review almost got its named changed and funding cut because it used the words “ethnic ghettos” to describe a few of the program houses (Latino living center, African living center etc).
I think the first thing that has to go is the view that right wing is synonymous with racism and bigotry. It’s hard though, to explain that to people who are so conditioned to think that if you don’t want to give the poor free money, you MUST hate black people.
It’s driving me mad! I can’t talk to people without them assuming I’m some kind of bigoted, homophobic, poor hating, woman-hating jack ass.
Anyone have any ideas?
As others have mentioned, I don’t know that GOP=Conservative now…
But to your larger point, you should BE the conservative you want to bring youth to. Some ideas:
-When a member of the GOP copies and distributes “Barack the magic negro” scoff and tell others about why “that’s not conservative.”
-Go ahead and write some QUALITY pieces in that paper. If you write shit, no one will read it or care. Maybe write some “letters to the editor” in the other, more well-read papers to build some popularity.
-Don’t be a bigoted, homophobic, poor hating, woman-hating jack ass… Let your actions speak for themselves. Perhaps you could write some articles about the “conservative” position on these issues as you see them.
-I’m friends with a lot of conservatives… and those folks hate and scoff at the bigoted, homophobic, poor hating, woman-hating jack asses. Just as the liberals I hang out with roll their eyes and the anti-globalization types. Perhaps you could express your disdain for the radicals.
-IMO as long as the Sarah Pailin’s of the world keep given the VP nod instead of the Ron Paul types, the GOP is doomed. Perhaps you should advocate for the libertarian wing of your party?
-Don’t hate “the other side” or think “the other side is evil!!” These type of extremist thoughts won’t change anyone’s mind.
Everything you just said is wrong. You must educate yourself on the truth. You have no idea about conservatism or independent thought. There is no way I will e a sheep beholden to mere slogans and rhetoric that is spewed by the left while they kill what this country stands for at record speed.
Your president wants to buddy up with the taliban…That speaks volumes. You should think the incredible stupidity of uttering those words. Any thinking person should be fucking stunned.[/quote]
Let me guess… you’re a huge Palin fan and don’t like that I’d prefer the libertarians to take over your party. I can’t imagine you’re upset about the “Barack the magic negro” stuff.
Wow. Not one person on this thread mentioned the huge elephant in the room: THE WAR. It’s just like the real GOP, or Fawlty Towers: “Don’t mention the war!”
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Do you agree ,that not extending unemployment ins. is screwing the poor?
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Well, yes. But not because they will be any poorer.
What will happen to society as a whole when we upper-middle-class cannot afford lattes and triple-espressos any more? The poor will really suffer then.
Seriously though, my wife has been unemployed for almost 6 months and her unemployment benefits are about to expire. She is planning on filing for an extension.
If she doesn’t get it it will suck but it won’t hurt the family as a whole. We are far from poor. It just means she won’t be getting a new foreign made auto anytime soon.
[quote]orion wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
orion wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
johnconkle wrote:
Isn’t Cornell still a relatively conservative campus?
You don’t know ignorant, left wing, knee-jerk idiocy until you’ve gone to a UC.
Haha. Not even close. Their are a few closetn conservatives but the campus is still 90% left wing. We have around 4 left-wing to socialist papers, multiple socialist clubs, and the few “unbiased” news sources are left wing as hell.
The Conservative paper is almost never read, people often protest the most random and retarded shit I can think of (People think being Gay is abnormal, therefore we will do a bunch of gay PDA in the middle of the Quad… lolwat?).
But yeah, I’m sure UC’s would be worse. At least there’s a small libertarian club here.
Did you just write that they publicly make out with dudes because someone somewhere thinks being gay is unnatural?
Yes. Yes I did. They called it a “fight against heteronormalism.”
I’m not fucking with you.
Um, I am probably going to regret this…
Pics or it didn´t happen![/quote]
There ya go. There’s a pic in there.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
orion wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
orion wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
johnconkle wrote:
Isn’t Cornell still a relatively conservative campus?
You don’t know ignorant, left wing, knee-jerk idiocy until you’ve gone to a UC.
Haha. Not even close. Their are a few closetn conservatives but the campus is still 90% left wing. We have around 4 left-wing to socialist papers, multiple socialist clubs, and the few “unbiased” news sources are left wing as hell.
The Conservative paper is almost never read, people often protest the most random and retarded shit I can think of (People think being Gay is abnormal, therefore we will do a bunch of gay PDA in the middle of the Quad… lolwat?).
But yeah, I’m sure UC’s would be worse. At least there’s a small libertarian club here.
Did you just write that they publicly make out with dudes because someone somewhere thinks being gay is unnatural?
Yes. Yes I did. They called it a “fight against heteronormalism.”
I’m not fucking with you.
Um, I am probably going to regret this…
Pics or it didn´t happen!
There ya go. There’s a pic in there.
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Dude…WHY??? WHY??
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
pat wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
How can it be done? My generation in enamored by the Democrats, mainly because they all hate Bush.
Seriously, no one will even pick up the conservative paper on my campus, even though it is HARDLY a radical Bush loving journal. In fact, I’d say the Progressive (the left wing paper) is FAR more divided and often, just plain retarded. They recently ran an article about how meat is killing America. In a political newspaper. I can’t make this shit up.
I’ve considered writing for the Review (right wing paper) but I feel that no one will bother reading it. Hell, the Review almost got its named changed and funding cut because it used the words “ethnic ghettos” to describe a few of the program houses (Latino living center, African living center etc).
I think the first thing that has to go is the view that right wing is synonymous with racism and bigotry. It’s hard though, to explain that to people who are so conditioned to think that if you don’t want to give the poor free money, you MUST hate black people.
It’s driving me mad! I can’t talk to people without them assuming I’m some kind of bigoted, homophobic, poor hating, woman-hating jack ass.
Anyone have any ideas?
As others have mentioned, I don’t know that GOP=Conservative now…
But to your larger point, you should BE the conservative you want to bring youth to. Some ideas:
-When a member of the GOP copies and distributes “Barack the magic negro” scoff and tell others about why “that’s not conservative.”
-Go ahead and write some QUALITY pieces in that paper. If you write shit, no one will read it or care. Maybe write some “letters to the editor” in the other, more well-read papers to build some popularity.
-Don’t be a bigoted, homophobic, poor hating, woman-hating jack ass… Let your actions speak for themselves. Perhaps you could write some articles about the “conservative” position on these issues as you see them.
-I’m friends with a lot of conservatives… and those folks hate and scoff at the bigoted, homophobic, poor hating, woman-hating jack asses. Just as the liberals I hang out with roll their eyes and the anti-globalization types. Perhaps you could express your disdain for the radicals.
-IMO as long as the Sarah Pailin’s of the world keep given the VP nod instead of the Ron Paul types, the GOP is doomed. Perhaps you should advocate for the libertarian wing of your party?
-Don’t hate “the other side” or think “the other side is evil!!” These type of extremist thoughts won’t change anyone’s mind.
Everything you just said is wrong. You must educate yourself on the truth. You have no idea about conservatism or independent thought. There is no way I will e a sheep beholden to mere slogans and rhetoric that is spewed by the left while they kill what this country stands for at record speed.
Your president wants to buddy up with the taliban…That speaks volumes. You should think the incredible stupidity of uttering those words. Any thinking person should be fucking stunned.
Let me guess… you’re a huge Palin fan and don’t like that I’d prefer the libertarians to take over your party. I can’t imagine you’re upset about the “Barack the magic negro” stuff. [/quote]
Nor are you upset about her bieng called a PIG by your magic hero.
You just can’t seem to make a point without being a little sourpuss or attacking someone in the process. Your Magic Hero is destroying our country brick by brick, and you can not even find it in you to wonder why we are waving the flag on the Taliban. You don’t even question who ultimately PAYS for these spending bills that spend with cash we don’t have…on things FOR the Government. You don’t question why private markets are now shrinking while Government grows. This SHOULD scare the shit out of anyone who actually understands this country and why we even exist as a Nation.
My only conclusion is that you are uneducated in the way basic economics work in a free market society.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
pat wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
How can it be done? My generation in enamored by the Democrats, mainly because they all hate Bush.
Seriously, no one will even pick up the conservative paper on my campus, even though it is HARDLY a radical Bush loving journal. In fact, I’d say the Progressive (the left wing paper) is FAR more divided and often, just plain retarded. They recently ran an article about how meat is killing America. In a political newspaper. I can’t make this shit up.
I’ve considered writing for the Review (right wing paper) but I feel that no one will bother reading it. Hell, the Review almost got its named changed and funding cut because it used the words “ethnic ghettos” to describe a few of the program houses (Latino living center, African living center etc).
I think the first thing that has to go is the view that right wing is synonymous with racism and bigotry. It’s hard though, to explain that to people who are so conditioned to think that if you don’t want to give the poor free money, you MUST hate black people.
It’s driving me mad! I can’t talk to people without them assuming I’m some kind of bigoted, homophobic, poor hating, woman-hating jack ass.
Anyone have any ideas?
As others have mentioned, I don’t know that GOP=Conservative now…
But to your larger point, you should BE the conservative you want to bring youth to. Some ideas:
-When a member of the GOP copies and distributes “Barack the magic negro” scoff and tell others about why “that’s not conservative.”
-Go ahead and write some QUALITY pieces in that paper. If you write shit, no one will read it or care. Maybe write some “letters to the editor” in the other, more well-read papers to build some popularity.
-Don’t be a bigoted, homophobic, poor hating, woman-hating jack ass… Let your actions speak for themselves. Perhaps you could write some articles about the “conservative” position on these issues as you see them.
-I’m friends with a lot of conservatives… and those folks hate and scoff at the bigoted, homophobic, poor hating, woman-hating jack asses. Just as the liberals I hang out with roll their eyes and the anti-globalization types. Perhaps you could express your disdain for the radicals.
-IMO as long as the Sarah Pailin’s of the world keep given the VP nod instead of the Ron Paul types, the GOP is doomed. Perhaps you should advocate for the libertarian wing of your party?
-Don’t hate “the other side” or think “the other side is evil!!” These type of extremist thoughts won’t change anyone’s mind.
Everything you just said is wrong. You must educate yourself on the truth. You have no idea about conservatism or independent thought. There is no way I will e a sheep beholden to mere slogans and rhetoric that is spewed by the left while they kill what this country stands for at record speed.
Your president wants to buddy up with the taliban…That speaks volumes. You should think the incredible stupidity of uttering those words. Any thinking person should be fucking stunned.
Let me guess… you’re a huge Palin fan and don’t like that I’d prefer the libertarians to take over your party. I can’t imagine you’re upset about the “Barack the magic negro” stuff. [/quote]
You guessed wrong…I’d fuck’er. And given a chioce between obama and her it’s a no-brainer. But I no “huge fan”. I do not associate it any party, but I pretty much disagree with nearly anything the democratic party is and stands for. It’s anti-individual and pro-government. Two things I am most definitely not.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Wow. Not one person on this thread mentioned the huge elephant in the room: THE WAR. It’s just like the real GOP, or Fawlty Towers: “Don’t mention the war!”[/quote]
Because that’s not the topic. However feel free to start a new thread on it. We’ve only discussed a thousand times. For the record, I never have been for the war in Iraq, but once there, I was not for just walking away and leaving it to the terrorists either.
I love PWI!
Rocscar, Pat, did you actually read what I wrote or are you just complaining because I agree with a lot of previous posters? If the OP actually does these things I think a lot of youth with move towards conservatives… what, specifically, are you complaining about?
I’d like to see the party go libertarian. That would kill it for good.
[quote]pat wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Wow. Not one person on this thread mentioned the huge elephant in the room: THE WAR. It’s just like the real GOP, or Fawlty Towers: “Don’t mention the war!”
Because that’s not the topic. However feel free to start a new thread on it. We’ve only discussed a thousand times. For the record, I never have been for the war in Iraq, but once there, I was not for just walking away and leaving it to the terrorists either.[/quote]
I’m not debating the war in Iraq as policy, I’m saying it did far more to hurt (or probably cripple) both Bush and the GOP with young voters than Katrina, earmarks (no one cares), religion and the economy put together.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
pat wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Wow. Not one person on this thread mentioned the huge elephant in the room: THE WAR. It’s just like the real GOP, or Fawlty Towers: “Don’t mention the war!”
Because that’s not the topic. However feel free to start a new thread on it. We’ve only discussed a thousand times. For the record, I never have been for the war in Iraq, but once there, I was not for just walking away and leaving it to the terrorists either.
I’m not debating the war in Iraq as policy, I’m saying it did far more to hurt (or probably cripple) both Bush and the GOP with young voters than Katrina, earmarks (no one cares), religion and the economy put together.[/quote]
The war DESTROYED the party. And if the party keeps up the “Well, it was a good idea, we just didn’t execute it correctly” approach, they’ll never recover. The people aren’t voting for a party they suspect is likely to get us into another war and lengthy occupation. Funded by borrowed money, at that. The GoP has done nothing to ensure the populace they’ve rethought their foreign policy.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Sloth wrote:
The war DESTROYED the party. And if the party keeps up the “Well, it was a good idea, we just didn’t execute it correctly” approach, they’ll never recover. The people aren’t voting for a party they suspect is likely to get us into another war and lengthy occupation. Funded by borrowed money, at that. The GoP has done nothing to ensure the populace they’ve rethought their foreign policy.
Bullshit. Being about only two inches to the right of the Democratic Party wounded the GOP.
Running a rock solid, small government conservative as its 2008 candidate rather than a wishy-washy I-still-think-a-large-federal government-is-swell McCain would’ve changed the outcome, I believe.[/quote]
Yep. Can we dig Reagan up?
See what I mean? If the GoP has the attitude, they’ll be out the wilderness for a long time.